The other thing with guys is, they don't get the urgency to have babies. They don't have a clock ticking in the back ground. They have the ability to have babies well into old age.

My DH wanted to wait (and wait....), I went off the BCP and said if he wasn't ready for babies, then he needed to be proactive in the birth control. Being a bloke this was all too much work for him, so he has conceded to "going with the flow". I haven't told him of my membership here. I have learnt so much, that I am now far more familiar with my cycle. When I think I am Oing, I seduce him, and he thinks his christmas's have all come at once. Poor DH, he doesn't stand a chance.