Well,
Af didn't turn up....so off to the GP we went....
four HPT later
9dpo, 10dpo, 12dpo and 15dpo all BFP's (first two very faint but still BFP)

so we are 5 weeks and 4 days...GP didn't do and offical test, much to DH disgust mainly because I was right all along (trusted HPT as I took them to for show and tell anyway!)

best of luck to all, sticky vibes sent out by the buckets

and thank you all again...