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  1. #1
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    Dec 2007
    Melbourne
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    Hi Boomba,

    Congrats on catching poos! If i had to choose only one to catch I'd choose poo LOL.

    You might want to do a bit of googling, cos I'm terrible at explaining things with words only But here goes...

    These techniques are for smaller bubs... Some people use the "classic hold" which is where you have the baby's back to you and then grasp the baby's thighs. Then lean their back against your chest. DS's legs usually ended up resting against my wrists/arms a bit. We used to dangle him over a potty like that from about 6 wks old but some people just aim over an ordinary bowl, sink, whatever.

    For weeing, whenever we noticed him peeing (e.g. any time we changed him LOL) we made a "pssss" cueing noise so he would learn to wee when he heard that noise. It works well for some people but not so great for us. Some babies give cues as your little one does for pooing (ours didn't do this either). Timing worked really well for us, so offering a potty break straight after waking, or however many minutes after a feed etc. I think when we tried full time EC early on I was offering potty breaks every 30mins during the day with limited success (then the time intervals would be longer as he got older).

    When DS got old enough to sit on his own we'd put the potty somewhere there was something to distract/relax him to wee - so the TV, or the open front door (soo funny to see the looks on peoples faces as they were doing their morning walk hehe). We give him lots of claps and cheers and he seems pleased with himself We've got a seat insert for the "big toilet" which seems to work well, but he gets bored sitting there waiting.

    Did your DS get a shock with the splash? WHen my DS wees on the toilet the tinkle puts him off and we have to go to the potty hehe.

    Sorry for the long post!!

    Tish
    x

  2. #2
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    Jan 2009
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    Hi All,

    Can I join in? I want to voice my support/interest in a discussion thread on EC.
    I started a thread a few months ago, but it fizzled out (I think, or maybe I just fizzled out ).

    I practice EC with my DS2, and I practiced it with DS1. I am a total convert!

    Boomba, That's great!

    Tish, I too find that timing works really well. Also, my DS2 'blows raspberries' when he wants to poo (that is his signal to me). He has been doing this since 9 weeks of age. Another time that is obvious to me, is when I am trying to bf and he keeps 'popping off' and fussing. That is a definite signal that he needs to pee. I wish I had know this with my first child (who I did not practice EC with). When she fussed at the breast, I thought it was a bf issue, not the fact that she wanted to pee. If only I had known!

    I call myself a casual EC'er. These days (third child), I don't stop the car if I know DS2 needs to go.With DS1, I would stop the car, and pee him in a potty or on the grass. Ds2 wears mcn's and I remove them when he needs to go. But I am more relaxed about it this time. DS1 was fully daytime TT and toileting independently at 2 yr 5m. I don't know if he would have taken longer if he had been 'traditionally' TT. But that was never my goal. I love the enhanced communication and closeness that EC can bring to your relationship with your child.

    Mayaness, Tish, Jess and Boomba, I have enjoyed reading your experiences. EC is a wonderful journey. I always remind myself that it is not a linear journey either! Sometimes a case of 2 steps forward, one back.

    Oh, by the way, I use buckets! (at home) DH and I always joked that DS1 would have a bucket phobia as an adult! I attempted to transition DS2 to a potty, and he has used it a few times, but I think I still prefer holding him. Tish you have given a great description of 'the hold'.

    Goodnight ladies.
    Last edited by *Ash*; January 19th, 2010 at 11:30 PM. : sp.

  3. #3
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    Nov 2006
    brisbane
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    Thanks Trish that was reaslly helpfull...I have done alot of reading on the tribal baby webpage so thats helped heaps DS1 has never been scared of the toilet...its a big socail gathering for him if DH is home we all have to be in there reading stories and singing...hope he doesnt do this when he is 15
    Aliash a bucket sounds like a great idea..hehe bucket phobia as long as he doesnt fall in

    Well after one success we had 2 unsuccesful attempts...He started to go so I quickly took him in but cracked it then this morning he went in his nappy......I will keep persisting he is only 11 weeks so hopefully I will get it more

  4. #4
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    Jul 2009
    Melbourne
    104

    Hello boomba and Aliash! Great to have a few more folks in this thread.
    I have been away from the internet, visiting the beach, then a singing conference, then settling Bridie at daycare... and our ECing has gone by the wayside a bit too. We are still offering pottytunities at nappy changes and during nappy free time at home, just not trying when we're out (and we've been out of the house a LOT).
    Bridie seems to only go on the potty; if I cue her while holding her over a sink she just wiggles. Sitting on the potty though she happily wees, sometimes even before I cue her, sometimes after a bit of time to relax. DH has invented a song he sings to her: 'it's morning (/afternoon/evening), we're on the potty, and what do we do on the potty? We pssss!' She always gives a big grin for the potty song, so cute
    Atm, she will whinge when she's having nappy free time and needs to wee, which is great. Only problem is she also whinges to say 'I'm bored' or 'my toy is out of reach' or 'I've forgotten how to roll over on to my back' etc... She probably gives the same signal in nappies but I can never get them off and her on the potty fast enough to tell if that was what she was whinging about. Except just after a nap - maybe it takes the bladder sphincter a while to wake up?
    One of the daycare workers was really interested to hear that Bridie wees on the potty at home. They are moving to a new centre soon which will hopefully have a better bathroom set up, so I am wondering whether they'd be willing to try pottying her at nappy changes... we'll see, I guess!
    At home, I'm wondering whether to just continue with our current casual EC-ing, or if I should try to get more nappy free EC time in while the whether is warm. I'm not yet fussed about TTing/independence; washing her nappies isn't that big a deal. (Solid poo is pretty icky! But DH rinses them out for me. ) And daycare certainly isn't going to be able to do fulltime EC, with 4 babies to each staff member. Hmm, what to do...

  5. #5
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    Nov 2005
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    Just quickly - last night DD spent her first nappy free night! Was a warm night and she only leaked once (not much wee there), and was woken by DS once, so I pee'd her twice all up. So cute to see and feel her all naked! Tonight's up the creek, after a fire call whilst on station just after our brigade meeting wrapped up...just going to bed now, but she's asleep in a nappy. Might take it off later, though Just thought I'd let you all know about our first big brave step!

  6. #6
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    Dec 2007
    Melbourne
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    You are so brave Mayaness!!! Let me know how it goes, it's not something I could bring myself to do LOL, but wished I could have. Are you using a wool pad or something to sleep on?

  7. #7
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    Nov 2005
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    It was just so hot that night that I couldn't bring myself to wrap her in anything! I just had her on a Fluffy brand thing that's long and narrow, under her bum, on her lambskin (lamby gets put out in t he sun in the morning).