Endo specialist or IVF? Desperate to have a child.

[desist]

Hi Brisvegas,

This is my reply to another thread - I will be getting another lap done within a few months (depending on my savings as this guy isn't cheap). Surgeon is an endo and fertility specialist so he knows his stuff... I can let you know how it goes if you like.

Good luck


"I had endo burnt off in november '06, and have deteriorated since. Pain during AF has increased in severity, although this 'bad' pain now lasts only 2 days instead of 3.

General abdo and back pain throughout my cycle is also more prominent since the lap, along with digestive problems similar to IBS.

I have an appt with an endo specialist on 4 March to (hopefully) find out what's going on"

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[Mindhugs]

Update:

Hi Everyone and thank you again for all of your support and guidance. It's been great.

We had a miscarriage a few weeks ago, which was sad. It's my 2nd in 2 years. Although it wasn't pleasant it did give me some hope again.

I have found a really great natural therapist who specialises in acupuncture and chinese herbs. He has had great success with infertile women and I can just tell how good he is by the close attention he has taken to my case. I see him weekly and he adjusts my herbs and acupuncture depending on the time of my cycle I am in and what my BBT looks like. I'm already getting results with regard to my endo symptoms. Less pain during periods and my moods seem to have improved. I don't feel as low. PMT is more balanced too. But I do hate those needles in my abdomen. It's as if I can feel them in my uterus sometimes.

My husband has also agreed to receive treatment from this therapist so that we can both make sure we are in the best possible position to fall, whether it be naturally or IVF.

I took all of my results to show the therapist and he says he can see that my progesterone levels and BBT are too low for me to conceive. So we are working on that as well as the endo, and see how it all goes.

Fingers crossed. I must admit that I had gotten myself to a stage where I just wanted to give up and had lost a lot of hope. We've been at it for almost 2 years now and you just get so tired of the emotions involved with it. We had begun to look into overseas adoption. This has made me feel more positive again - regardless of the outcome.

Hope you are all well and having a great week. I will keep you all in my prayers and thoughts.

[tiggerlinda]

Bris Vegas I am a fellow brissie Gla have just had my endo cleaned out by my FS he is very open to natural support therapies let me know if you would like his details. PS after laps IVF is not that bad so I have found. Just need to be realistic with it and what you do.

So sorry to hear of your MC but do understand that it gives you hope.

[Mindhugs]

Thanks TiggerLinda,

I would love to know the name of your FS. Referrals are always good. I will need to suss one out soon-ish, so that would be great.

Fingers crossed for your next round.

[tiggerlinda]

Dr Das at City IVF he and the team are wonderful.

[tiggerlinda]

Dr Das at City IVF he and the team are wonderful.

[tiggerlinda]

Dr Das at City IVF he and the team are wonderful.

[Cival]

Hi everyone,
I had endo removed three years ago since then I had three miscarriages (spontaneous pregnancy) my progesterone level is too low it doesn?t support the pregnancy. I am not a good responder to IVF treatment , I would like to know if anyone has the same problem.

[tiggerlinda]

Cival,

Sweet there a a few of us that get low numbers great Assitaed conception threads for lost of q's

[ania]

HI Brisvegas - ive just been reading ur thread andi feel for you - a severe endo suferer myself. I have 3 major operations in a span of 18 months and was told to try adn fall preggers ASAP naturally even though they knew i couldnt. Put it this way i was in hospital at one stage for almost 3 weeks - it was bad. After my last operations last Feb 07 my GYN/OB placed me on synarel which bascially puts u into menapause - to be honest it was good apart from the hot flushes lol.... anyway this drug is also the starting process of IVF which i had to do. After being on this drug for 3 months i started IVF - its not than bad u just had to go in there with an open mind and no expectations (which is hard). It was especially difficult for my husband and myself as we lost a best friend to cancer (just b4 his 30th), i started a new job as did my husband. You do what u have to and its all an experience and what u make of it. I was very lucky though i fell preggers straight away, no complications throughout the pregnancy and have a beautiful 2 month old Joshua. I wish you all the best - lucky ur naturalpath remedies are working for u - it didnt for me nor did chinese medicine. If ur still trying to source a doctor - Dr Peter Illingsworth from IVF Australia Sydney is also very good. I actually went through Westmead hospital in Sydney which costed me nothing...but it is all expensive. Good luck i hope you get ur bundle of joy u deserve.

[Mindhugs]

Hi Ladies,

Thank you thank you thank you for sharing your stories and all of the support you are giving me and others who visit this thread. I was so dubious about these types of forums, but since being on them have felt so much better about it all. I think just knowing you are not alone helps so much. Also just talking about it.

I am coming into the 3rd month of my course of chinese herbs and acupuncture. Firstly I have to say that anything to do with herbs must be given at least 3 months to work and be followed diligently if you want to see any results at all.

I saw marginal results for the first 2 months, in fact a return of symptoms to an extent which got me down. On the 3rd month I am starting to feel hopeful. My BBT is starting to look normal, and I am ovulating strongly. My mucous has increased and the pain is lessening. I may not fall pregnant naturally after this, but at least I will be in a much better position for IVF should we need to go down that path.

Some of the herbs I am taking cause miscarriage, so for that reason we have had to stop trying for a while, but my practitioner tells me that we are just about ready to start trying naturally again, based on the results. I see him weekly and he tailors the herbs and acupuncture accordingly, based on my symptoms, time of cycle and BBT.

I've also been off wheat (about 90% of the time) for 3 months now and am less bloated and feel better in myself overall. So perhaps there is some kind of link to allergies/food intolerances and endo. However I have realised that my biggest issue is with stress in general and managing stress. The anti-stress herbs I have had to take are the ones that have had the best effect on everything - including my progesterone levels. So I've had to admit that to myself and work to find other ways to alleviate the stress and my response to stress. I believe that endo breeds on stress. I have been also doing a course of hypnotherapy to help with managing stress and am getting some good results.

Stay tuned. I feel so positive right now, but we all go through those down times with this terrible affliction. It's like riding a wave.

Best wishes to all of you who are undergoing treatment or about to. My thoughts are with you. Will you keep us all posted on how you get on?

Big hugs xxxxxxxxx

[Tiffiny]

Hello, everyone

This is Tiffiny, i just have laparoscopy to remove my endometriosis (moderate) by Dr Molloy in QFG, and i thought my realistic pregnant rate should be normal after the surgery, whlie Dr still recommend me to IUI two months after the surgery, is there anyone who has been conceived naturally after laparoscopy? i am 29 years old and my husband is the same age with me and his sperm count/ motility is good but percentage of abnormal sperm is a little bit higher than normal. we have been trying to conceive for more than one year.


Thanks for your reply

[Mindhugs]

Hi again,

Well it has been almost 4 months on the chinese herbs and acupuncture. Was getting good results in terms of period symptoms decreasing and my progesterone levels increasing. Until this last cycle.

I had a particularly stressful 2 weeks at work, was also going for another job, my parents were up visiting and we were trying to fall pregnant for the first time naturally in months. Well the stress was too much for me and guess what - I got severe endo symptoms again. Abdominal pain, IBS symptoms, nausea etc etc. I know it's come back.

Now I feel despressed as I amy have wasted 4 months doing the natural thing when I could have gone down the IVF route instead. I feel like I am back to square one again.

I want to go and see an OB/Gyno, but not sure if IVF is worth trying straight away or perhaps another clean out (10 months since my last one). God I hate those clean outs!!!

Hope you are all well. Does anyone have any good news of late regarding their endo and fertility treatment? I'd love to hear it.

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