No pain and Endo?? Is it possible

[dusty]

Nicole, wow I didn't realise IVF started today good luck!

The answer is yes, you can have no pain and everything you mention above and still have endo.
I have a fairly regular cycle, no pain at O or near AF, regular periods, CM etc but on an exploratory lap they found severe endo. The only symptom was IF.

We are about to start on our second STIM IVF cycle and have asked my FS on several occasions about a lap and if he thinks I could have endo but really does not see a real need at this stage to perform surgery.

I wonder why this is. If you have unexplained IF then to me that reads they haven't yet been able to determine why you haven't yet been able to conceive. Endo can be one of those reason, as well as it could be other issues not related to endo.

Hun, if you don't have any luck this IVF cycle then I reckon it would be worth having an exploratory lap. TBH I am suprised your FS hasn't gotten you to have one before now. Endo can be treated in a number of ways that can also help TTC and many women find natural pg success after having it treated but that isn't guaranteed. A problem with undiagnosed endo is the damage it can be doing to your pelvic region if it goes untreated (scaring, adhesions etc). Now there is still a big likelihood you don't have endo, but it is worth checking out IMO.

The U/S during your cycle should be able to determine if you have any endometriomas (bloody cysts in the ovaries) as well as at EPU they can sometimes come across signs when they draw out the follicle fluids.

Please don't be affraid to ask questions on here Nic. Being armed with information and knowledge can help you get the best medical treatment and advice possible. I am really glad you decided to ask your question
xx

[Cassius2]

it certainly is possible. I have endo and have had it pretty much from when i had a m/c in 2002. mine started out with ovulation pain, but slowly progressed to the point where i had it on my cervix (sorry if TMI!).

we were TTC for almost 2 years before we got something done about it and finally (!) fell pg...

i would be seeing a specialist that will have a looksie for you.

HTH!

[Nicole S]

Thanks Laranna, Clare & Dusty for all the advise.
Dusty I didn't realise that there could be signs of Endo in the fluid at EPU...will ask the FS about that one.
To be honest ladies I am really scared about having a lap done, the thought of going under scares the living crap out of me. Even my last EPU I was only given twilight sedation as I didn't want a general.
I know that if that is something that I need to have done I will have no choice, but I just hope that I don't have to go down that surgery path..and yes I am a BIG chicken.
The end result will be worth it but am still scared...

[dusty]

I hear you Nic. It really do know how it seems all too scary. I absolutely hated the idea of a general too as I had a negative experience 23 years ago. BUT modern anaestetics is so so much better and my experience with the 2 laps was better than anything I could have hoped for.

Anyways there is a good chance you wont have to worry about this after your cycle is completed :goodluck2:

xx

[Laranna]

It's very normal to be scared Nic...the lap was my first ever operation (I was 28) and I was $h!t scared! However, I was so relieved after it was done to find out the reason for all my period problems, still devastated that I had endo though. Having my appendix out at 18 weeks pregnant was even scarier!

Hopefully, this IVF cycle is the one for you and you won't need the surgery