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    Default Perth Fertility clinics - any advise?

    Hello everyone. My wife & I have been married for nearly 5 years now and have been trying to conceive for nearly 24 months now. A few months back we found out that my sperm is not good enough (oligospermia) so, after the shock, we're trying to figure out which Fertility Clinic to go to (we need an ICSI).
    We've been referred to Hollywood Clinic by her gynecologist, and had an appointment with a Doctor and a Scientist which explained the procedure in detail. My overall feel was from good to very good, but my wife is not so sure about it.
    We've heard of other clinics such as Concept, Pivet and Fertility North as well.

    Anyone care to share their good/bad experiences with fertility clinics around the Perth area?.

    Thanks so much for your help

    Cheers


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    I've had 15 of my 16 IVF attempts in Perth the other one was with SIVF.
    I have had an appt with HFC Simon Turner but I didn't feel comfortable with him,.
    I have had 12 attempts with Pivet, Dr Yovich is a great surgeon but very hard to get to see for IVF and expensive too. But I have had problems with the clinic and decided to change.
    I have had 3 attempts with Concept with Dr Graeme Thompson and he is lovely. We ultimately decided with Concept over HFC because the PGD process is undertaken in their labs and not sent over east (as with Pivet).
    I have a gf who loves Fertility North.

    I think it's important to have a meeting/appt with each clinic, after calling the clinic and finding out which dr to see for your infertility diagnosis. Then determine which clinci and doctor suits you both. The internet sites can be helpful too.

    My best wishes for your IVF journey.

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    I'll say first up that I've only ever been to Concept. I had 8 cycles with them before finding success but there were many considerations as to why I stayed:

    Fertility North was too far away. End of story.

    Pivet had Dr Yovich, who was well recommended, but I had not heard good things about the clinic itself. Some say the nurses were not understanding, and given my fragile state at the time, I didn't think I could face that.

    Hollywood had a weight restriction. They wouldn't even meet with you if you ha a BMI of over 35 (mine was 35.1) They also would not transfer more than 1 blastocyst.

    The grass seemed greener on the other side for a long time, but I soon realised that Concept was able to provide me with all the support I needed, as well as all the medical facilities available. Like Magic, we were going to do PGD on the next cycle when I fell pg. Concept is the only clinic who do it in-house.

    I also absolutely wanted to have two embryos transferred each time. Others, like another member here, does not want to risk twins, so is happy with the one blast transfer policy at Hollywood.

    In general, each clinic tends to do things that little bit differently, and often you don't know what these little idiosyncracies are until you're already cycling. So the best advice I can give you is to research and make note of what you consider important (for me it was how many embryos to transfer, how supportive the staff were, and whether tests were done in house) and then ask the right questions when you meet the clinic.

    Good luck with your search, Aramis7!

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    Magic and Sushee, thanks for your replies.

    Magic, 16 IVFs !!!. Wow !. Talk about perseverance !

    We'll take the time to visit at the very least Pivet and Concept before deciding.

    Again, thanks for the replies and good luck to both of you too.

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    Hi to you, & my fellow Perth ladies
    I am going through Hollywood FC for my AC trek, it's been a few cycles now.
    I am very happy with them, my trek hasn't exactly been easy & I find the nurses/drs to be supportive. My referral dr is Perkins (I haven't met Turner so can't comment)
    I also find them proactive in the journey. When it didn't work, we worked out what to do/try next time. I have been successful but m/c.
    I do blast transfers, & am happy with only 1 at transfer, I had PGD on my last cycle, I didn't think anything about it being sent east, results were back in 2 days.

    I can't comment on the ICSI, as we haven't done it, but do know of a friend who has & she said all went well

    As Sushee has said I guess it would be worth looking at other clinics if you know what it is you want/need. For me at the time I didn't really know, I guess I just went with the flow. But even now I think I'll be at HFC as long as it takes....
    Hope you are able to find success in your journey, and hoping sooner than later.

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    Hi there,

    I have been with Pivet since Feb of this year. I have found them to be great, but cant compare to any of the others. I did make some enquiries about Concept, but from what i understood the doctors work out of their own rooms, whereas at Pivet it is all in the one building which makes life easier.

    So far, the nurses and doctors have all been great. We are actually remembered by the staff there when we return for appointments.

    We hopefully will be starting our first round of IVF / ICSI this week there, if my body co-operates with us.

    Prices at Pivet are high, but, most of it is claimable back from Medicare and from experience you do get a fair amount of it back.

    Good Luck with your decision.

    Take Care,

    Prue

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    I am new to this board and I am at Hollywood also. We were with Concept for a number of years. But after many ops I was told the only way to access my ovaries for EPU was via Lap. But I was then told Concept doesn't do Laps for EPU anymore so we went to Hollywood.
    We are also with Dr Perkins. He was great, got us going straight away. The nurses are wonderful. I had my first cycle with them last month and they managed to get 10 eggs transvaginally (no need for a lap!)although a nurse had to sit on my abdomen to position my ovaries. I had Dr Love do the EPU and he was very nice. Even when I had my EPU the nurses in the recovery room were so great. The first thing I heard was "Dr Love got 10, and you didn't have a lap either). I was so happy they managed to get something I burst into tears. ALl 10 of our eggs fertilised. Although I didn't have an ET done last month(my E2 levels were too high) I am having a FET done this month.
    I think that Hollywood is a little more expensive than Concept but to me it's worth it. But ultimately you should go to a clinic you feel comfortable with.

    Mel

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    Mel, Dr Love did my last ET, I thought he was good too. That is good you didn't end up needing the lap, & congrats on those eggies.
    Good luck to you.

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    Hi all.
    I am new to the forums but with a similar issue as you Aramis7. After over 12 months of TTC we found out that DH has a 0 sperm count (azoospermia). There are immature ones found but no live/dead matured ones, Like he had a vasectimy at the ripe old age of 25.(I strongly doubt any doctor would allow someone that young with no children to do that, but then again I am no doctor so maybe.)

    We are off to see DR Mazzucchelli at concept on the 7th August for our initial appointment.

    We strongly believe that DH has this condition due to his fond liking for beer and working as a aluminum welder without using a respirator ever (up until 3-4 weeks ago)

    Will let you know how we go with that clinic and DR.
    We recieved positive vibes from this clinic when we called up with our concerns of never falling pregnant. Having said that though we hadn't thought about going to another clinic so really haven't inquired.

    Hope you find yourselves a good clinic that you are both comfortable with.

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    Thanks Bubbleberri, same to you.

    This process is so very difficult. You (well...I, really) keep deceiving yourself saying "maybe next month....maybe next month", it's like playing lotto really (and unfortunatelly, our chances are pretty much like hitting the powerball). It is so very difficult to come to terms with.

    We have not made an appointment yet, but we'll go to Concept to have a look and then decide between Hollywood and Concept.

    All the best

    cheers

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    I have been going to Concept for a little while now and I have found the staff there to be excellent and very conserderate and understanding. I am currently seeing one of the gyneos there, but I am not happy with how things are going, can anyone recommend a good one who is proactive and considers natural methods as well?

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    We are going to see an IVF specialist at a new clinic called Fertility Specialists of WA. It is on Queenlea drive just off Stirling Hwy. There are 4 doctors there who are from different clinics around Perth but who have now formed this new one. We got into our first appointment straight away with us going on Friday. Will let you know how it goes...

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    Hi again. The doctors who have formed the new clinic are Dr Love (from Hollywood), Dr Yeap (female doctor, from Bethesda), Dr Aitkins (from Concept) and Dr Hart, who is the director. All these doctors were recommended by my GP who has also conceived with IVF or GIFT I think. Hope this helps.

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    Aramis7:

    We have had great responses from Concept with Dr Mazzucchelli. He sent us off to do a few tests to discover if anything could be causing our issues.

    I recently went for a HSG and blood test DH went for a Sperm Test and Bloodwork. It seems that he has started producing sperm that are mature now. They found a few in his latest sample so we are now suffering from a low count. DH works as a welder though and didn't use any breathing equiptment and has done so for the past 2 months. We are thinking that this might be the cause of his pick up in sperm count.

    Through the HSG we found that I might have a Fibroid Tumor on the top of my uterus that we would not otherwise of known about. I need an ultrasound to confirm though. This could be a reason for non conception as the fertilized egg might be having problems in attatching itself due to the growth.


    So all in all we are quite content with Dr Mazz.
    His initial appointment is $100 ($70 odd from Medicare) then its $50 for additional appointments for us.
    The blood and semen analysis were done for free but the HSG was rather costly which we had done at St John of God Hospital at the SKG labs for $258 with $96.55 returned through medicare.


    Hope all is well for you both.


    Mona this new clinic sounds good with the low waiting period. Lord knows we need more specialists. My husband was referred to a male specialist and we need to wait nearly 3 months for him to get an appointment. EEPP!! My specialist was not that bad but it was still about a month to wait.

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    Hi Bubbleberri

    We had our first appointment. Dr Aitkin is really great. The details of the clinic are as follows incase you are wondering. Fertility Specialists of Western Australia, 9340 6419, Consulting suites, Bethesda Hospital, 25 Queenslea Drive Claremont. He also has a private room at suite 209, St John of God Medical Clinic 9382 9435. He used to work at Concept. I suppose that is just incase your husband doesnt want to wait that long.

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    The new clinic sounds good, I hope it works for you. We have been trying now for 3 years, the past 1 year with Dr Nichols, but no luck so far, and he is very frustrating to get information from. I have been on clomid and done IUI, but my hormones seem to be all over the place, so I want to go to someone who is proactive and doesn't just say lets see how it goes and doesn't explain what is going on very well. I know it is a lottery and a waiting game, but I think more can be done - very frustrating! I am with Concept at the moment and they seem very good. I have heard that Dr Mazzachelli is meant to be very good, as is Dr Love. I have decided to make an appointment with Dr Graeme Thompson as I have heard also that he is meant to be excellent. I guess in the end they all do the same thing, but it is who you feel comfortable with is what counts??? I am also seeing a Natropath so hopefully both will work together. I am also thinking/looking into acupuncture, has anyone tried this or know of someone good?

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    I have had one appointment with Dr Mazzucchelli at Concept, and I am unsure if I should look elsewhere. I did not feel that comfortable with him, he seemed a little vague and not very friendly. I guess that sounds stupid, if he has a good reputation then thats the main thing? Can anyone let me know if they, or someone they know have used Dr Mazzucchelli and had success? He mentioned he would only transfer one blastocyst, and if possible I would prefer 2.
    Also, can anyone give me a very rough approx out of pocket cost to have IVF at Pivot or Hollywood? I do have the top level of HBF (not sure how much they give back anyway !). Dr Mazzucchelli said the out of pocket expense with him at Concept would be approx $2000. Also do you know if they transfer one or two blastocyst?

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    Kat
    I don't want to say anything bad about anyone but I saw Dr Mazzuchelli and to be honest I agree with you. I was unfortunately on the public system and did not have a choice but to see him. I did 1/2 an IVF cycle and he couldn't access my ovaries so that was it. I was told I needed an op to free them up. I had that op and then went back to see Dr Mazzuchelli but this time as a private patient. I was told after the op that the only way to get to my ovaries for EPU was via laparoscopy. Dr Mazzuchelli told me they don't do laps for EPU anymore. He was vague and he wasn't very nice about it. He basically looked out the window when he said he couldn't help us. DH then started getting angry and asked what we can do now?? We want kids!
    He then fluffed around and basically fobbed us off to another Dr. I then thought about Pivet but then decided on Hollywood in the end. We had an appointment with Dr Perkins in May, I was on my first IVF cycle in June. They managed to do an EPU transvaginally. I was then told that if the ultrasound tech can see my ovaries with an internal u/s, he can access them. And he did. Dr Mazzuchelli DID an internal u/s and saw my ovaries but then said he couldn't do an EPU. I ahve been with Holltwood since May and I have found them so great. The nurses are awesome and honestly it was the best move I made.

    I can tell you what I paid also (out of pocket)
    $1600 for the IVF cycle
    $655 for the hospital bed (EPU)
    $350 for the anaesthetist ( take to medicare for rebate)
    $100 for the Dr consult ( that was in may)
    $275 for the embryo freezing
    $150 for blastocyst

    I have a lot of other info on here, if you want I can scan this and email it to you.

    I do have to say I know a lot of people do like Dr Mazzuchelli and have had success with him. But if you don't feel comfortable with him I would suggest either seeing another Dr at Concept or going somewhere else. I think that being comfortable with your Dr and the nurses at the clinic helps.
    Here is my email if you'd like to email me

    [email protected]

    Also if you want 2 blastocysts transferred I know Hollywood doesn't do that. I'm not sure where else does but I did ask about 2 and he said no.
    Last edited by babyformel; August 26th, 2006 at 10:51 AM.

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