Oh, I forgot to come back! I went out to check them again, and noticed the stalks had little holes forming and the leaves around them were looking pretty sad. So I did the thumbnail check Audax suggested and I could just get it in, so I picked them both. They're now sitting outside on the wall of my garden bed. We don't usually get frosts here until a bit later, so I'll see how these ones go. I've got two more growing that are little, but I'm feeling hopeful! Thanks for all your help
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