Any experienced netball umpires?

[lady_neon]

Intimidation is exactly that and is at the umpires discretion. A penalty pass or shot should be given (the offending player stands out of play).

I usually call intimidation when a player deliberately stands in front of the player with the ball instead of making an attempt to defend. It's different to all 4 players in the circle cramped under the ring, its when a defender could defend but instead stands either facing or with her back to a shooter. Does that make sense? Also I've called it when a player with the ball pretends to throw the ball into the face of a defender in an attempt to get her to move away.

The problem with juniors is that the coach is usually inexperienced (a parent) and don't really know the rules at all. Many, in fact most, do teach the defenders to deliberately stand in front of a player with the ball as I explained above. Also the whole stepping in thing - if a defender has her 3 feet *with her arms up actively defending* and the attacking player chooses to step in, then the defender does not need to move. Many people have this confused, and think that if the attacking player (usually this happens in the goal circle) steps in, then the defender can quickly throw her arms in the air and defend 'but she stepped in!' - the defender MUST be actively defending 3 feet from the players grounded foot first. Hope that helps

[~clover~]

Thanks Lady_neon. I'll remember that.

I'm not going to be a full time umpire, The A & B girls are rostered to score for the other team/umpire/keep time etc when they don't have hockey or canteen roster. There was an umpire clinic a few weeks ago & I would've gone, but I did the carnival the day before & couldn't afford to go to both (1.5/2 hours in different directions).

I will talk to our umpire. Was going to at training last night, but she left early.

Yeah, she was watching DD to watch her move, & it definetely worked, but she was standing over her. She was intimidating. She was 2 inches from DD's face the whole time & I don't think I could've dealt with the same TBH. But I didn't know if it counted as they weren't in play. I think if it happened in an adult game, she'd have been pushed out of the way... I've seen the A/B girls get pretty worked up over much less.

[lady_neon]

In that situation, I'd either call advantage and speak to the player and coach during the break, or if the intimidating player's team had the ball I would call it, penalty pass and still speak to player and coach. They need to learn and there's no need for *****iness. It's starting younger and younger these days, its sad.

[lady_neon]

And I've actually seen players pull haka-like faces, bark or shriek to distract.. all intimidation on my court.

[~clover~]

Wow... That's full on! We get the odd elbow, or push... but nothing like that!

None of us actually knew about intimidation really. Most of us haven't played since primary or high school But like I said, still learning. Last week it was GK/D's hand up defending the goal is only allowed to move if the ball moves. Not if it's still. So many things to remember!

At least I know the basics here... I played a season of basketball & was so unprepared!

[lady_neon]

Yeah I umpire proper competition not just social rec centre style. People get a bit too competitive :/

[Trillian]

I usually call intimidation when a player deliberately stands in front of the player with the ball instead of making an attempt to defend. It's different to all 4 players in the circle cramped under the ring, its when a defender could defend but instead stands either facing or with her back to a shooter. Does that make sense? Also I've called it when a player with the ball pretends to throw the ball into the face of a defender in an attempt to get her to move away.

If you are a defender, then you are allowed to stand with your back to the shooter so long as they have room to bring their arms down behind you. often it's the only way you can 'defend' the rebound if the shooter is too close for you to hold your 3 feet. I made a point of asking an umpire about it once because I saw that others were doing it and didn't think it was OK. But I can see how there would be a fine line between doing that to defend the rebound and deliberately doing it as a way of intimidation. the things I've seen some women do are unbelievable.

[~clover~]

I do stand under the ring to try for the rebounds, but I watch the ball. There are times you can defend & times when you just can't & the best you can do is hope for a rebound, because everyone is just too close & being a taller player, I'm sometimes better off trying to get the rebounds...

I prefer umpires used to strict competition situations TBH. Like our finals umpires. They're very fair, & there's not much they miss!