Yeah I should add that MY MWs (especially last primary who was also backup at 1st hb) were great and totally trusted & listened to me and didn't want me to have anything unnecessary done, but for a few things they kind of had hands tied! The reason we used the program wad quite bluntly coz it was free but ill be pushing for an I'M for sure this time... May have a fight on my hands with dh if I can't get a reasonable price though- he would want to just freebirth but I'd rather have another pair of hands etc iykwim, even tho there's no reason to think a mw will be needed (if there was a known need of course we would )