Oh PZ, i feel your pain...like literally hopefully with some rehydration and some rest ('cause it's so easy with a toddler hahahaha) it will calm down a bit. like Sara mentioned are you on mag/cal?
Sara: yeah i take a mag/cal supplement already. they think that i am just overdoing it (easy done with small kids to look after IYKWIM). Sounds like they are just giving you a generic 'for the masses' birth procedure - it is not tailored for you, so hopefully with loads of boring-as discussions and firm resolved it can all be worked around.
HotI: it felt so good not giving my consent!!! like, seriously therapeutic! i started to feel the usual pressure and uncertainty, but then had a moment of 'my body, my baby' and realised that it wasnt being offered for the good intentions of me or the baby, but simply as protocol. not good enough reason for me!
and of course had to tread lightly as a homebirth transfer it is in the back of your mind that if you seem to be too 'vigilante' that you can be reported to DHS. so i had to face alot of questions about if they did 'let me' go home that night and i went into labour what would i do...ahhhh well, i am HERE in the HOSPITAL arent I??! So i had to reassure the head OB that i would in fact return if i went into labour before 36 weeks. far out. they really actually believe that people that homebirth will risk their babies to do so
Last edited by Cassius2; September 27th, 2012 at 04:12 PM.
Yep I take cal/mag for restless legs. It's calmed down a little but still quite sore and tight/heavy feeling. DH had to go to uni tonight which is the worst timing ever, but I'm taking it super easy.
Cassius, which hospy are you booked into? I still haven't booked in, I really need to lol. Hospital transfers suck, I hope never to do it again. I'm glad I'm not in a restrictive hospital program this time, my reasons to actually transfer this time are significantly smaller than the list from DD. It does feel awesome saying no huh? I did a lot with DD, they wanted me on the bed, on my back with monitors on me. I ripped them off and got up and made a cave in the bathroom Still, looking forward to not needing to do that this time!
PZ: am booked into the womens thankfully my IM does it all for me automatically so dont need to think about it lol. are you sure that you are not already booked in?
Weird! Cos we have the same IM. She has told me to book into my local (Sandringham) a few times now and I keep forgetting. I don't really know what to say to them when I call?
hmmm i wouldnt know what to say either lol! i wonder if you have to do it because maybe it is only at the womens that she can do it directly it *might* also be because of my PTSD that she does it for me? i cant remember that far back to DD2s early pregnancy lol.
ok, let's brainstorm...i guess, call up, say that you are planning a homebirth with a group midwifery practice and have been advised to organise a 'transfer booking' with the hospital'. they might ask you "what on earth is that" lol. and from there i would say something like: 'it's where you guys (the hossy) has all your pathology, ultrasound results on record so that in the case of a transfer it is all on record'??
if they do know what you are on about, i guess they will guide you through the process...ie giving you a patient number etc. they keep a wee little file with your records etc. they will need the IMs details (ie the business name, her phone number and address)
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Wow that's actually really helpful! Thanks babe. I reckon you're right as well, I'm sure N did mention that the women's is the only one she works with directly Guess I should get on with it soon! I'm a little shocked to find myself in the 3rd tri tbh!
Thank you all for your help as to what to do with my DS around the birth. I'm feeling much happier to go with the flow and have my sister there to take him away or entertain him if he needs it.
I met my midwife today and she's lovely. As I'm going through the hospital-homebirth program I will have to put up with the stricter rules around transferring and playing it extra extra safe but we're rationalising it that the savings in money and the fact that it's my second birth means it's worth the conservative management and protocols. My midwife is lovely and was excited to meet me. I'm still not feeling any reality around being pregnant but I'm sure the excitement will come
We are also having our Doula from my son's birth and I'm excited to reconnect with her again. The continuity of care we have from her is so awesome.
Breastfeeding my toddler is sporadic but not fun atm. My nipples are so sensitive and sore when he's attached and I'm yelping every time he wants a feed. I'm ok with him weaning but a bit sad that the final feeds mightn't be very pleasant for either of us. He tries so hard to be gentle and gets upset when I cringe
The weeks are flying by and I'm already nearly 14 weeks! Feeling generally well unless I forget to eat regularly.
Rubyshoes: oh yeah the BF can totally hurt! i remember also yelping each time DD2 ended weaning when i was around 5 months pg as she was just sooo frustrated by the lack of milk supply that she gave up. in some ways it was a relief (the thought of tandem feeding did have me a bit worried) but also sad that like you mentioned that it wasnt the way i had envisioned her stopping ITMS.
Rubyshoes, I had something similar. Real feeding aversion in the first tri, dd weaned at 13 weeks. I just told her that there was no more milk and she was really easy about it. She was 2 atthete and I was ok with it. However she still would come and pretend to bf with me and funnily DH when she wanted comfort (both sides, lol! Funny little thing!). The thing was, when my milk came in after birth, she asked if she could have milk an was sooo surprised when she got a mouth full. I can only say that there was no better relief from engorgement than what was given by a hungry 2 yo! Now at just past three she is still feeding each morning. It's not what I ever imagined for myself, but she LOVES boobie! So we manage. Anyway,the point is, you never know what you will be doing later, but don't feel bad. You child probably won't feel to bad. They are a lot more adaptable than we think sometimes. Good luck!
Bella: that is so interesting! I have noticed that in the last week where, previously DD2 didnt even seem to remember her 'boobie milk', that the last few times she has seen me getting dressed that her interest is suddenly piqued again! she's not sure what she wants to do, but does know that it is a comfort thing...be interesting to see what she does once the milk is in
Haven't been in here in quite a while, and I'm a bit out of touch with everyone, but I just wanted to say HI ALL! And yes, what an awesome homebirth list! I remember when I had my first homebirth, there were only a few fellow BBer's who were doing it too, and now there are LOTS! Wonderful!
I know right??!! I just love that it getting more accessible even the simple reason that we are on thread #11...i started out on thread #1 (and only joined just after conceiving DD2 i think! so lots and lots of action!)
I'm having some doubts around home birth and would like to explore my feelings with you guys. I want to choose home birth to avoid unnecessary interventions but the fact is hospitals themselves don't bother me. I quite like the idea of spending a few days in hospital TBH.
I'm unsure how to go about creating a birthing space for myself in my house - I have a small house and I'm not really sure where I would birth or set up a birth pool...
Thoughts? Anyone else have these doubts or work through them?
I'm a bit the same as you Dolly I like the hospital stay (in the private hossy I was in with DS it was more like a hotel, def don't think I'd enjoy a public stay in a shared ward at all!) But feel the best way for me to get the birth that I want and think is best, is to stay as far away from the hospital as possible!
I have a small house too, thinking the pool will only be able to fit in the kitchen/dining area at my place. I don't know if I'll really need much room to labour so I'm not *too* worried about having enough space, as long as I can set up the pool. Could move the dining table out that we rarely use in the weeks beforehand to kind of create a little 'zone' maybe? hmmmm
I'm also considering having a cleaner and possibly some sort of meal service come in the first few weeks
I had no desire to go to hospital, but only had a small ish space to set up, and it was in the kitchen/main living area so couldn't set it up weeks before. I had the birth pool blown up sitting in the shed (on a blanket) ready to bring up when needed. I got some elastic wire cord from spotlight to hang up as a room divider between the kitchen/ lounge area and hung a cool keltic design sheet type thing i have had for years. i hemmed one edge of it like a curtain so it could just be pushed back until it was needed.
The baby change table was in another room with everything on it needed for the birth. The plan was for DH to bring the whole table out but he forgot that was his job. Having everything in one place meant that DH or the midwife knew where to look for stuff when i couldn't talk.
I had some fairy lights that i planned to put up, but didn't get around to it.
My Sept baby is still comfy/stubborn in my belly. 41+3 i think and starting to get frustrated because the program only lets me HB to 42w. Rub my back while i have a little sook?
hopefully with some rehydration and some rest ('cause it's so easy with a toddler hahahaha) it will calm down a bit. like Sara mentioned are you on mag/cal?
Still, looking forward to not needing to do that this time!
thankfully my IM does it all for me automatically so dont need to think about it lol. are you sure that you are not already booked in?
it *might* also be because of my PTSD that she does it for me? i cant remember that far back to DD2s early pregnancy lol.
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