I think this discussion has become unhinged by the gap between a health professional offering objective care to a person versus the subjectivity of the health professional (their experiences and fears) impacting on the decisions they make or choices they make available to a patient (stay with me here because i know all experiences will impact hp). In this case, bringing up the coroners court becomes a 'card' because it is an emotive and subjective experience linked to the health professional that is used with moral weight to push the decision making processes of the mother. I agree we all need to know risks, but in a highly emotive situation like birth bringing up litigation and the subjective experience of the hp doesn't help.

Now I know this isn't a real- life situation and no hp is truly offering advice here in a professional capacity, but I can see how it plays into the same old 'dead baby card' issue homebirthers always face. I have already thanked Nickle for her informative post and I really appreciate how her own subjective experiences necessarily influence her opinions. My dad is a GP, my sister a nurse, their experiences have undoubtedly impacted their treatment of patients. I think when it is blatantly put to a person that 'hey this is what I've seen so be warned' it skews their autonomy to make a rational decision, because now they're weighed by your experiences and not by broader risk analysis or facts (and I think this is why obstetrics in general is going towards more medical models, because the rare complications start informing the majority).

As for refusing Ambos treatment or other health professional, I think this is a grey and scary area (for my brain anyway). I can't see why you would call 000 and then refuse treatment offered BUT I think a woman should always be able to refuse treatment from any hp. I think it is dependent on expectations and understanding of what that hp offers, as well as trust in that hp, which ultimately they need to instill in you.
Yes I cop a bit of flack for being a nurse and having a hb. But I think that everyone has the capability of educating themselves. But what you've said might ring true, in regards to experiences affecting hp methods. I, tap wood, have never had to deal with the unexpected death of one of my patients, but have dealt with patients loss of autonomy. And so with my nursing, I find that I try to be as holistic as possible and give all the facts, without using scare mongering. I know it's a bit off topic, but makes me wonder, if I do my midwife training, am I likely to want to be an IM due to being an advocate for hb. I like the idea of working in a hospital, educating mothers and pushing for their rights. But in this day and age, am I likely to feel pushed out by other hp who are all about protecting their jobs and the hospital, rather than the patient?