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    GKD Guest

    Induction...how likely is it that labour will start naturally after waters are broken

    Hi,

    I am 41 + 2 and am heading in for an induction on Thursday.

    My cervix is dilated so the first step will be my ob breaking my waters. followed later by syntocinin if required.

    I am HOPING that the breaking of my waters will bring on labour but don't know how likely this is. My ob is happy for me to wait as long as I like (within reason) after breaking my waters before starting syntocinin. I would like to wait as long as possible because I don't like the idea of labouring attached to a drip and I know syntocinin can make things much more brutal.

    Has anyone else had this experience? How likely is it that contractions will start naturally following waters being broken? How long should I try to wait before allowing the syntocinin to be started?

    Any advice would be great.

    Thanks sooo much
    GKD

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    With my third pg I had my waters broken before labour had started. This did not make the labour start as intended and over the course of a few hours the waters became meconium stained - signalling that she was possibly becoming distressed. Because of this I had to have the synctocinon earlier than I would have liked.

    Having your waters break before the onset of labour can also make the baby become fixed in it's position and stall labour - in my case my baby was posterior and that is why the contractions didn't start once the waters were broken.

    In hindsight it is not something I would ever do again. With this pg I had the option last Friday of having my waters broken again to start labour, and then the sycntocinon - I refused and left the hospital.

    In all honesty I think it are taking a gamble and running the risk of the typical cascade of intervention happening.

    ETA - I thought I would grab this excerpt from the Induction article on the main site:

    2. ARM (Artificial Rupture of Membranes)
    Should your cervix be favourable and your baby in the pelvis, this option may be given to you for an induction. The waters will be broken in the hope this will lead to labour, however often you are given a very short space of time for contractions to establish – sometimes only an hour or two – before being put onto an i/v (intravenous) oxytocin drip. Of course, once the membranes have been ruptured, you are also on a time line as your chance of contracting an infection is increased. Some midwives have also noticed that the early rupturing of the membranes can result in more posterior or malpositioned babies.
    If your labour is not progressing after the membrane rupture, you will likely have a syntocinon drip put up (which you can consent to or not consent to – it is your body and your choice), possibly followed by pain relief and depending on the option you choose for pain relief, you may require assistance by the way of an instrumental delivery. All this is called a ‘cascade of intervention’ where one intervention leads to another and another and so on. However some women will go on to labour well and not require all these things – it’s just something to bear in mind from both sides.
    3. Artificial Oxytocin (Syntocinon)
    Syntocinon is administered via an intravenous drip and may be used if your waters have broken but there are no contractions, or if contractions don’t start up on their own. Because you are having this drug, you will be required to be monitored continuously as your doctor will need to know what effect this is having on the baby. So if you planned on having an active labour and moving around freely, this could leave you confined to the bed. Being restricted to the bed, reclining or semi-reclining during labour works against gravity and are not particularly helpful to the normal processes of labour. It also means that you won’t be able to use a bath and probably a shower for pain relief too. You can still use a bath and shower for pain relief with intermittent monitoring, it’s just more awkward so it will depend on the hospital and staff on at the time.
    It may be argued that you will be induced starting at a low dose which may bring you some comfort at the time. But this ‘low dose’ will be continually increased during your labour, usually every half an hour the dose will be doubled – so you can imagine how quickly this builds up until you start labouring at the rate required and so your labour keeps progressing. Once you are on an oxytocin drip, most doctors will say that unless your baby becomes distressed, they will want the drip on until your baby is born, so your labour doesn’t stop. So if you decide you don’t want it after an hour or so, or it gets too much, know that you do have the choice and power to have it turned down or turned off – however if your labour slows or stops they will want it back up again. Sometimes it just takes a little syntocinon to get labour going, however by accepting an induction in this way you do run the risk of requiring the drip for the whole labour.
    An example of a dose you might have prescribed is as follows:
    10u of Syntocinon added to 1000mls of fluid. The drip rate is usually started at somewhere between 15-30mls per hour. It is then increased by somewhere between 15-30mls per hour every 30 minutes.
    So if we were to start with 30mls per hour, after 30 minutes the rate would be increased to 60mls per hour, and after 1 hour the rate would increase to 90mls per hour.
    Side effects include:

    • Hypotension (low blood pressure)
    • Water intoxication
    • Hypertonic uterus
    • Uterine rupture
    • Uterine inversion
    • Stillbirth
    • Tachycardia
    • Heart abnormalities
    • Nausea
    • Vomiting
    • Diarrhoea
    • Because it acts on the smooth muscles asthma could be a problem
    This is taken from the packaging of Syntocinon which has been recently updated:
    “ADVERSE REACTIONS
    The following adverse reactions have been reported in the mother: Anaphylactic reaction, Postpartum hemorrhage, Cardiac arrhythmia, Fatal afibrinogenemia, Nausea, Vomiting, Premature ventricular contractions, and Pelvic hematoma.
    Excessive dosage or hypersensitivity to the drug may result in uterine hypertonicity, spasm, tetanic contraction, or rupture of the uterus.
    The possibility of increased blood loss and afibrinogenemia should be kept in mind when administering the drug.
    Severe water intoxication with convulsions and coma has occurred, associated with a slow oxytocin infusion over a 24-hour period. Maternal death due to oxytocin-induced water intoxication has been reported.
    The following adverse reactions have been reported in the fetus or infant:
    Due to induced uterine motility: Bradycardia, Premature ventricular contractions and other arrhythmias, Permanent CNS or brain damage, and Fetal death.
    Due to use of oxytocin in the mother: Low Apgar scores at 5 minutes. Neonatal jaundice, and Neonatal retinal hemorrhage.”
    The information for the sycntocinon is taken from the information sheet that comes with the drug - not something that Dr's and Ob's routninely share with you. It is not an attempt to scare/worry you but simply giving you information you may not have.
    Last edited by Trillian; September 11th, 2007 at 11:35 AM.

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    GKD Guest

    Thanks for the responses.

    Sherie,

    What are the alternatives to having this type of induction at this stage of a pregnancy if the baby isn't coming naturally?

    I have been a couple of centimetres dilated for a few weeks. I lost my mp over a week ago and am having BH but no contractions. I am not keen to have an induction but also based on other friends experiences and th advice of my obstetrician, I do not want the baby to be more than 10 - 14 days overdue...

    I have tried all the natural ways to bring on contractions and nothing yet. I still hope to go into labour naturally between now and then.

    I would appreciate any advice.

    Thanks

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    I'm sorry if I alarmed you with all that, and sometimes there are no other options but to go down that path kwim? And that's fine . If you already are a few cm's dilated and baby is properly engaged and in the best position for birth then you probably wont have any trouble or even need any further intervention after having the waters broken. But I feel like sometimes women get a bum steer from well meaning friends and medical professionals. The worst thing is once you're waters are broken you are basically committed to having the baby - you can't change your mind and go home and wait another few days.

    It just isn't something I personally would do, having had the benefit of hindsight I suppose.

  5. #5
    GKD Guest

    You didn't alarm me at all. I had read the stuff about the problems with inductions before so feel informed about the risks and benefits etc.

    I am disappointed that I am heading down the path of an induction, especially since my ob was pretty sure I would be going into labour naturally based on my cervix and the babies position etc at my last few appointments!

    I wil go ahead with Thursday if nothing happens between now and then but I will be holding out as long as I can following the ARM in the hope that I cotractions begin naturally.

    Thank you for your advice... I am a first time mummy so I appreciate the advice of those who have done it before!

    GKD

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    Hi GKD,

    I had an inductionat 41+3 for low fluid levels. I was already having very spaced regular contractions, and was almost 4cm by the time i got to the hospital for the induction (was 3cm the friday before (baby was born Monday 11pm) and hadn't felt a thing, so it wasn't the contractions on the Sunday night that did that much). As i was beginning to have contractions, i refused the drip, and only had ARM. This was done around 8.30 in the morning. I had the most fantastic doula around, who really helped me get up and active after this, to try and really kick start labour.

    I was really geting into active labour around midday, and i spent the morning doing a lot of pacing, being on the fit ball, and going to the toilet (that position really gave me strong contractions).

    I wrote a bit about my induction experience a while ago here - Scared of having to have an induction. What was your experience?? - BellyBelly Forums ~ Pregnancy, Birth & Baby and Dissapointed by negative information offered on Induction - BellyBelly Forums ~ Pregnancy, Birth & Baby

    You should find my posts about halfway down the page on both of them.

    I was happy with the way my induction went.. I felt just an ARM was the gentlist way to go, and i had to do something as my fluid levels were actually quite low (2.2), so i did it for the right reasons also. It really was quite a good experience as terms of inductions, i got to have an active labour that i wanted. My body just needed a little nudge.

    Anyway, feel free to ask anymore questions about my experience.

    This is another good thread about preparing for induction and what to expect - anything to do to prepare for induction? (emotionally, physically) - BellyBelly Forums ~ Pregnancy, Birth & Baby

    HTH!

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    My experience with my second bub - I was 3cm dilated beforehand, they broke my water and nothing happened. Ended up on the drip.

    That said, I was only given 4 hours - and three of those hours I begged, borrowed and stole. My idiot OB told me if it was going to start, it would start in an hour. When it didn't I basically disappeared, walking around the hospital for another 2 hours. If they couldn't find me they couldn't hook me up to anything lol. When I got back I begged for one more hour which I begrudgingly got. After that they weren't playing anymore

    I was also earlier than 41 weeks so that probably affected my experience too..

    Once my water was broken things went pear shaped very similar to what Sherie described with her birth - posterior and malpositioned baby which couldn't move without fluid...then fetal distress...it wasn't great.

    Ultimately it's your decision, it sounds like you understand the risks. I would ask the OB exactly how long he is prepared to wait though. You might find his idea of reasonable and yours are very different. Most OB's are paranoid about women wandering around without their waters intact.

    Good luck

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    How long should I try to wait before allowing the syntocinin to be started?
    Depends how long you can hold off the Ob LOL Can you find out if you can go home so you have more freedom to be active and move around, giving it time to start? Even when waters rupture naturally it can take days for labour to start, just depends if your body is ready to labour or not. If your baby is high then rupture of membranes is not advised as a cord prolapse can result. But if your water levels are fine and the placenta is fine, then perhaps baby hasn't quite finished cooking... after those waters are broken, there is no other option but to go to the drip if labour does not establish.
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  9. #9
    GKD Guest

    My ob actually said he wants me to take off for a while and be active after they do the ARM. I only live around the corner from the hospital so I will probably be able to go home for a while. Although maybe I should challenge myself to a walk down at the beach (lots of stairs) instead. That is what I am off to do today in a last ditch attempt to get things going before tomorrow!

    Wish me luck!

    GKD

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