Possum80, your comment made me cry because thats how i feel too, the hardest thing for me is seeing my DH hurt so much! I feel so much for all the women and other ppl in the world that have to go through such an emotional rollercoater that i find it so hard that other ppl cant see it and don't have respect for how we are feeling, I wouldn't wish IVF upon anyone because its not fair that anyone should have to go through it but sometimes i wish selfish ppl (like my old best friend) could just feel the pain i feel everyday and how much it really does hurt to have all your dreams taken away from you. Im on my last frozen cycle from my first STIM cycle, im pretty sure it hasn't worked, i said to my DH last night 'at what point should we consider putting our names down for adoption?' I never thought in a million years this might be the road we would have to take but after 3 failed cycles and 1 miscariage i start to wonder if it will ever happen for us. I wish you both the very best for your first ICSI cycles, don't be afraid it has been the biggest challenge so far in my life and i truly believe im a better person for it. xxx