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  1. #1
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    Apr 2009
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    IVF ICSI - Bio-Chemical Pregnancy

    Hi everyone,

    I am new to Belly Belly and in need of a little advice.

    Did my 1st IUI cycle in January/February 2009 with no success.
    Advised to do more tests on both me and DH. They did a new test on DH called Tunel Assay and found out that Sperm DNA is Fragmented over 20%. Was advised to do IVF, I asked my FS what are my chances of falling pregnant from going from IUI to IVF ICSI, I was told it would triple my chances.

    I have just been through my first IVF ICSI cycle and on Friday found out that I had a Bio-Chemical Pregnancy, very upsetting.
    I have never heard of this before and was wondering, does anyone know anything about it. Has anyone had a Bio-chemical pregnancy then later on done a FET with a happy ending.

    I asked my FS is there any reason why it didn?t work, did I do something wrong ???
    They said that I did nothing wrong its just something that happens.

    Have now booked on for my FET, so fingers crossed for me.

    _____________________________
    Me 39 (Pcos) DH 40 (Sperm DNA Fragmented over 20%)

    IUI Dec 2003 1st Try - DD Born Sept 2004
    IUI May 2006 3rd Try - DS Born Feb 2007
    IVF March 2009 Fresh Cycle - No Good - Bio-Chemical Pregnancy
    FET May 2009 ?????

  2. #2
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    Aug 2006
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    Hi Danyelle,

    Welcome to BB. I'm sorry this happened to you, I posted to you in your original thread. Not sure if it will help much but sure that there are many other ladies on here that can give you advice.

    I have my fingers crossed for your FET. good luck x

  3. #3
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    Apr 2009
    Sydney
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    Hi Infinity,

    Thank you for your response, I am new to forums and It took me a while to find everything, I thought my first reply was lost as I couldn't find it this morning.

    I was using asprin for this cycle as FS advises all clients that are doing IVF fresh cycle to take asprin. Do you think that I need to do more tests ???

    I was very upset about the Bio Chemical pregnancy when 1st told by FS as I was given little or no answers regarding it but was advised my levels where quite high, not that that makes any sense to me. I going on Thursday to find out what my bloods results were and I'm going to write them down.

    Thanks again for your help
    Last edited by JustOneMore; April 28th, 2009 at 10:24 AM.

  4. #4
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    Mar 2006
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    Hi Danyelle,

    Just want to say I am sorry for the pain you are going through. I know it all too well. I wanted to give you some hope too. I had a chem pregnancy (on an FET though - I have had two fresh transfers without any success) and then the very next transfer I got a positive! I am now 24 weeks. To help cope with the chemical pregnancy I kept reminding myself that a chemical pregnancy meant at least now I knew I could actually get pregnant. I found this helped a lot.

    The chem preg cycle was the one I started taking half an aspirin a day if that helps. I kept taking it until the next cycle when we got the positive. I had done a range of implantation tests prior to doing this which showed me to be ever so slightly positive for Anti-Cardiolipin Antibodies, which is why the FS put me on aspirin.

    I hope this helps!

    Lilyx

    PS I am also 39 with PCOS.

  5. #5
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    Apr 2009
    Sydney
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    Hi Lily,

    Firstly congratulations on your pregnancy. I am so happy for you
    Thank you so much for writing to me! You have made my day today.
    I was really not coping very well with all of this, but now I have a little hope.

    I had high expectation with doing IVF, which was my fault.
    I?ll explain: I first started using FS back in Nov 2003, which is how I discovered I had PCOS and FS suggested that IUI was the best method for my situation. I fell pregnant 1st trying and I just couldn?t believe it, I honestly thought it would take about 4-6 tries.
    In January 2006 we decided to try again for another baby, this time I wasn?t as lucky, I was just about to give up and head down the IVF when I fell pregnant on the 3rd IUI.

    After having my son within two days I wanted another baby but it took 2 years to convince my husband, so in January 2009 and after asking my husband every day for 2 years (except on his birthday) he finally gave in. We headed back to FS to try our lucky, I requested we do IUI again, against my FS advice, but while doing IUI we were also doing all the test. That?s when I found out DH had a problem.
    My chances of falling pregnant with IUI was very, very slim but hey it was worth a try : )
    I sat down and had a chat with FS, asked what was my chances switching from IUI to IVF, she said that I would tripled my chances with IVF. So that?s where the High expectations come into it.

    When I found out that I had a biochemical pregnancy I got really depressed, I was starting to think that I was wasting my time continuing on with the FET. I thought that because this one didn?t work then they all wouldn?t work. Silly I now know.
    (Note: I don?t handle disappointment very well).

    I went to the FS today and had a long chat with the nurses and Lab Techs. I had lots of question, especially about the embryos and also about my age and how it effects everything. I told them that I was thinking about quitting. They convinced me otherwise after hearing the stories of what happen to other ladies that had been through their doors.

    May I please ask what was the implantation tests that you did and what is involved ???.
    I asked today if I was required to do any other test and they said no. Unless I keep have biochemical pregnancy then they would look into doing bloods test. Apparently they are very expensive.

    You mentioned that you did two fresh cycles that didn?t work !
    I?m sorry I am a little confused. So you did 2 full IVF cycles with no success or did you do 1 IVF cycles with 2 fresh embryos transfer which wasn?t successful then you did a FET which you had a biochemical pregnancy then you did another FET with success and you are now 24 weeks pregnant is that correct. ????

    Thanks again and I will keep you posted on the outcomes of my FET.
    Kind regards
    Danyelle

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    Hi Danyelle,
    I have just read your story, sorry to hear that your last cycle was a chemical pregnancy, it is hard to lose a pregnancy, not matter at what stage.

    In my humble opinion, I would say that it is far too early for you to worry about implantation issues. If I read right you have had two previous pregnancies correct. Since then how many embryo transfers with IVF? Did you do a fresh transfer before this FET? Normally FSs don't start doing implantation tests until after 4 unsuccessful embryo transfers, some wait until up to 8 unsuccessful embryo transfers. I would think with your history it seems it is just a matter of timing and getting the right embryo. From what I have seen of other women, most seem to get their BFP within about 3 IVF transfers.

    With regards to the implantation tests, if you are intersted have a look at this thread, https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...g-implant.html or this thread https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...y-testing.html

    When I had these done, the upfront cost was about $480, but medicare paid for all but 2 or 3 of the tests, so out of pocket was something like $60 or $80. If you really are concerned you can get your FS to write these up for you.

    All the best, I hope you get your BFP next cycle.