Hi Danyelle,
I have just read your story, sorry to hear that your last cycle was a chemical pregnancy, it is hard to lose a pregnancy, not matter at what stage.
In my humble opinion, I would say that it is far too early for you to worry about implantation issues. If I read right you have had two previous pregnancies correct. Since then how many embryo transfers with IVF? Did you do a fresh transfer before this FET? Normally FSs don't start doing implantation tests until after 4 unsuccessful embryo transfers, some wait until up to 8 unsuccessful embryo transfers. I would think with your history it seems it is just a matter of timing and getting the right embryo. From what I have seen of other women, most seem to get their BFP within about 3 IVF transfers.
When I had these done, the upfront cost was about $480, but medicare paid for all but 2 or 3 of the tests, so out of pocket was something like $60 or $80. If you really are concerned you can get your FS to write these up for you.
Firstly congratulations on your I am so happy for you.
Thank you so much for posting the information on the thread for me. I have read throught it a few times now, I even had my sister over here the other day to read the thread on Immunology. She has been doing IVF for 6 years with no success. It was so heartbreaking for her. She is going to give it one more try again in a few months.
(She has implantation then gets past due date then off to blood test the next day, blood test come back with levels just not quite high enough then she has to go back to have a blood test in 4 days time. When she has the blood test again all the levels have dropped and she gets AF in 2 - 6 days time.) plus she has had 2 MC prior to 12 weeks. She is sick and tired of all the FS's telling her that you just got to have the right embyro.
I know you mentioned that FS don't do implantation tests until after 4 unsuccessful embryo transfers, some wait until up to 8 unsuccessful embryo transfers.
But I just have a gut feeling that something isn't just quite right.
When I started seeing FS I fell pregnant straight away with my daughter the 1st try on IUI. WIth my son it took 3 tries doing IUI. During my pregnancy in last 2 weeks I got pluracy then 2 weeks later I got pre-eclampsia. Was raced straight to hospital and I had my son the next day.
Since the birth 2007 I just haven't felt right so in 2008 I went to my Gp and I was told I have No Alcholic Fatty Liver Disease. And after some research found out that pre-eclampsia can cause NAFLD. I just wondering what else might be wrong.
When I started IVF I asked my FS does NAFLD cause infertility, she said ask the person who diagnosed it, (a bit rude I thought) so I ask my GP and she said no. But then again what would a GP know about Immunology.
My sister and I have decided to go and see Dr Sacks, our appointments are in Mid August. I will keep you updated with our progress.
Thanks again for the information and I wish you a very happy and healthy 9 months.
♥
Danyelle
I started IVF when I was 39 (your current age?) and on my first fresh cycle had a chemical pregnancy (we had two embryos put back in).
On my second fresh IVF cycle we also had two embryos put back and we had a BFP, with my son now being 16months old.
I have just had a BFP (yesterday) from my last transfer, (frozen) and we now have no embryos left. My HCG levels are on the low end (though in the normal range) and I have to have another BT in 3days to check if they are rising.
Although you conceived easily with your first babies, just remember that you are now 39 and that fertility declines a LOT after 35 (thats the main reason I was on IVF... no other issues at all). This doesnt meant you wont fall PG with IVF, just that it might take time.
Thank you for your story, I see that there is still hope out there.
We had to do IVF ICSI cause of DH sperm (DNA Fragmentation and lets just say his little swimmers aren't doing to well) and my pcos.
I just had another FET cycle fail, good old AF arrive this morning. So I have decided to take a month off. I am going to see Dr Sacks about immunology issues. As I am not getting any answers from my current FS. Once I get my results from Dr Sacks, good or bad, I will again do another Fresh IVF cycle.
Congratulations on your BFP and good luck with your upcoming blood test.
May you have a happy and healthy pregnancy.
♥
Danyelle
A chemical pregnancy is still a pregnancy - it's just too early for the heart (not yet developed) to be picked up on U/S, only in the chemicals (hormones) in your blood. I hate the term, myself. It makes it sound 'pretend' almost.
a break sounds really good. I am sure you wil get your BFP in time, but I really think its a numbers game.
we all 'know' that a young, fertile couple DTD regularly still has only approximately a 20% chance of getting pregnant (ie implanting) in each cycle. Its in every book, and we remind ourselves of this continuously. And thats in couples who do actually achieve fertislisation each cycle too!
when we are on IVF of course we know that there is an embryo 'up' and while a BFN is bad enough, a 'chemical' pregnancy (shocking word) feels worse b/c it feels like we have lost our baby.
But when you look at the numbers with my two fresh cycles. In total I had 8 eggs fertilise to become embryos. Of those 8, one stopped developing a day or two in, leaving 7/8.
One did not survive the thaw, leaving 6/8. One survived the thaw but did not continue to develop, leaving 5/8.
Ok so we have 5/8 embryos that are 'semi good' (ie good enough to survive a thaw, or to continue developing). Of 5/8 that have been transferred (two lts of two, and one single), we have had three implantations (the chemical, plus my son, plus current burrowing bean). Of these, two have been strong enough to get past the TWW test.
SO that is 2/8 or 1/4 or very very close to the 20% in 'natural' pregnancy. Of course there is no guarantee that my current BB will continue, but I pray to the universe every night....
So I guess what I am trying to (clumsily) say, is that you WILL get there, although it will take time. You have a proven track record of carrying babies, so any issues with lack of implantation are the individual embryos, and no reflection on FUTURE embryos. It only takes ONE!
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