Vans - we have a 12 seater Toyota Hiace/commuter van. We found the smaller van didn't have the boot space we needed for a wheelchair and buggy. Even though we have spare seats we always seem to fill them with extras, you know kids friends,etc. I have no problem driving it and find it safer being a bit higher in the seat. But the bad thing is that I know I can keep having kids till all the seats are full - 3 more to go!!!!