Why is ok to say, skinny and not fat?

[Floweryfields]

A couple of other thoughts I wanted to add -
though 'we' the society we see thin as healthy and fat as unhealthy, this isn't always right as already said - I worked witha girl who was very, very tall - maybe 6 foot or a bit taller, she was a thin as a twig, but ate an incredible amount of unhealthy stuff. She would eat entire packs of chocolate biscuits, cakes, chips, lollies, etc, etc most days of the week - so while she appeared healthy, I wonder what her cholesterol really was like. i also know a number of overweight people who eat very healthy diets, even myself at my lightest seem to only manage 70kg (I'm 5' 7) eat a very healthy diet though remain somewhat chubby.
I believe it does defintely come down to genes and metabolism as to how everyone balances weight.
Last year when I had my lap, I was 75kg and certainly didn't feel thin or healthy, yet the nurses and anaethetist all commented that I would be easy as I was so fit and healthy - I was on the top end of the BMI healthy range for my height.

Something else worthy of comment, is clothing styles that has been mentioned. Look at the 80's - high waisted jeans were the in thing, the waist line did up around the thinnest parts of the woman, now hipsters sit around the wider part of a woman - though lots of girls stuff themselves into a smaller size and have the hip fat fall over! In the 80's and 90's baggy was in, now we wear fitted clothing.

Not really on topic, but just rambling thoughts from my brain!

[LimeSlice]

MD two words...

Christina Hendricks.

The woman is stunning, and yet I am sure most people look at her and say she is fat.

One of my best friends in high school is huge - I mean she is about 6'5 and solid, she is sporty, and carries so much muscle it isn't funny (I think the phrase my brother used at the time was "brick sh**house". And she is, lol she used to say it herself.
But she couldn't be healthier, she was and still is, one of the most athletic and physically active people I know, she eats well, and pretty sure her heart is as strong as a horse.

The problem I have with people's labels on 'fat' and 'skinny' is that somewhere they have become confused with 'healthy' and 'unhealthy' or even 'fit' and 'unfit'.
Being 'overweight' or being 'morbidly obese' according to BMI (Which is where I apparently am, yet my mother who was only 2 inches taller than me, but weighed 30 kilo more than I do now, is only 'obese' - load of BS) is absolutely NO - NO - indication of health and fitness.
I was a size 6 - because I worked 60 hours a week next in a HOT kitchen, next to a 400 degree pizza oven, drank water like it was going out of fashion, barely ate and smoked a crapload of marijuana - if you had have asked me to run around the block I would have fallen in a heap with smokers cough probably. But Kylie (mentioned above) could (and still does lol) plays 3 games of soccer on a weekend and goes and does beach volleyball afterwards, but is 'overweight'.
My unlce, and ASIO agent (think James Bond), healthy as anything on the surface, barely drank, never smoked, ran 5kms every morning before work plus trainging...bolt upright in bed with no warning at 3 am, massive heart attack and dead in seconds.

The problem of course being, you cannot judge peoples fitness without testing it, and for some reason we all feel it necessary to judge ourselves in comparison to other people of our gender, height, age, station, etc...and when it comes to health, it is just not possible in most mid-range cases (excluding 400lbs people that can't move from the couch and the other end, the clearly unhealthily underweight waif catwalk models we saw a few years ago)

[Bumperstump Cummerbund]

Tangent - Limeslice, Christina Hendricks is the sexiest woman I have ever seen, LOVED her in Firefly. She has replaced Angelina and Scarlett as 'women I'd turn for'

[LimeSlice]

lol Same Berenice!
Mad Men is my fav, and I don't know how she pours herself into half the clothes they put her in but she is amazing.
Bit like when you see real photos of Marilyn Monroe

[AnyDream]

MD two words...

Christina Hendricks.

The woman is stunning, and yet I am sure most people look at her and say she is fat.

Ok now I'm kinda shocked...I didn't actually know who you were talking about (haven't ever seen Madmen but I've read ppl commenting about it) but when I googled, she actually seems like a totally normal not-fat-at-all person to me??!? With rather a magnificent bosom...

[Bumperstump Cummerbund]

Ok now I'm kinda shocked...I didn't actually know who you were talking about (haven't ever seen Madmen but I've read ppl commenting about it) but when I googled, she actually seems like a totally normal not-fat-at-all person to me??!? With rather a magnificent bosom...

I think it would be more noticeable if you stood her next to Angelina Jolie, because Christina is definitely curvy and has more meat than most Hollywood starlets these days - but I wouldn't even come close to saying she's fat That woman is hot, sexy stuff, and if I looked like her I reckon I'd be truly happy. Of course, if I looked like her, DH would never let me outta the house so that might get a bit painful

[Floweryfields]

Ok now I'm kinda shocked...I didn't actually know who you were talking about (haven't ever seen Madmen but I've read ppl commenting about it) but when I googled, she actually seems like a totally normal not-fat-at-all person to me??!? With rather a magnificent bosom...

Actually that's what I thought - I didn't know her either and googled and was trying to find a picture where she looked fat - big boobies, but couldn't see a whole lot of wobbly bits. And if she's a size 16, then I should be wearing a 20 or something.... cause I am a 14 and am bigger than how she appears in piccies.

Sorry, bit off topic....

[sushee]

I do think the judgment is harsher then being skinny as in, media etc BUT it seems to be focusing on the so called 'real women' being larger. I feel like crap when I hear this comment as I feel like just because I dont have 'curves' Im not a real woman, therefore not disirable (SP) kwim?

Actually as someone who was obese and who now wears a size 6 (and is therefore considered 'skinny') it has been my personal experience that people who are overweight are judged much more harshly than people who are thin. And yes, most people would consider a person more attractive if they're thin than if they're overweight.

I've been on both sides of the fence and that's my observation anyway.

[Bumperstump Cummerbund]

I must admit Dedicated Mummy, I always cringe when I see clothing made for plus size women marketed as being for 'real women'. That's just as offensive as saying I'm not sexy because I'm overweight - two sides of the same coin.

The day we all walk down the street without judging or being judged on outward appearances alone will be a giant leap forward

[Kazmar]

Actually as someone who was obese and who now wears a size 6 (and is therefore considered 'skinny') it has been my personal experience that people who are overweight are judged much more harshly than people who are thin. And yes, most people would consider a person more attractive if they're thin than if they're overweight.

I've been on both sides of the fence and that's my observation anyway.

Oh no, I meant I think when you're bigger, it's harsher

[Amethyst in the Rough]

I don't believe in making people feel crappy, about themselves etc.

But for as long as I can remember I have ahd "Gee your skinny" and be looked up and down like Im sick?!

Im not sick, Im 54kgs and long, I eat like a horse!

What Im getting at is why do people think its ok to say this, yet I never hear people say to somebody "Gee, you've stacked on the weight!" Or "Your fat, arn't you!"



When I was younger I would get these comments and HATED my weight Its still with me to question how I look. I hate it. Just because Im thin doesn't mean I love my body etc.

So tell me, why do you think its ok/ not ok?

I am not sure, but I think comments about people being fat and gaining weight happens sooo frequently and generally our society is more accepting of 'skinny'. Just look at our celebrities and models, thin is in.

If you are naturally thin embrace it! It is other people who have the problem in making judgements, not yours. Don't let it get you down - everyone is subject to some sort of judgement about their physique no matter what weight they are We just have to try to be happy within ourselves and move past all that.

[smiles4u]

"Gee, you've stacked on the weight!"

LOL you'd will be surprised some people will actually say it, my close friends will tell me and my Mum will say it to DP or i if we 'have' put on weight ... she doesn't hold back BUT then if i lose weight my Mum makes nasty comments like have i stuck my fingers down my throat , but i feel like saying " Nah Mum you've got the wrong daughter, the other one has had bulimia not me " !!

Kass when i was your age i got down to 51kilo's yet i'm 5ft5" and i thought i was still over weight yet everyone else told me i was far too slim and looked ill

Oh dear don't think WE can win either way

Kass if you eat anything like i have seen your DD#1 i can vouch she is one very good healthy but big eater, i love it and wish my own DD would eat ALL those good things like artichokes & olives like your DD