thread: 3 MC's. Starting IVF & PGD, any advice?

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  1. #1
    Registered User

    Dec 2005
    6,706

    Redlady, the acupuncture certainly will help with the nerves and anxiety and you will leave feeling much more relaxed and calmer. Who are you seeing at Rozelle?

    WTH, what I've been able to dig up about the treatment for the MTHFR problem is vitamin B6, B12, large doses of folate (which you know about - I think it 5g rather than 500mg) and possibly aspirin or some other anti-clotting agent. Afraid I don't have the suggested B vitamin dosages - it's been over 12 months since I was looking into this!

    BW

  2. #2
    BellyBelly Member

    May 2008
    NSW
    696

    BW - thanks for the info. I researched it a bit after your post. It looks like I maybe should up my B6 (was 75mg, but did not want to lengthen my luteal phase, so switched back to just the 50mg that is in my multi). I am enquiring with my FS about heparin/aspirin which seems to help clotting. As my homocystine levels are ok he probably won't think it necessary.

    Redlady - the PGD will not help with the double MTHFR gene, however it may rule out a few chromosonal abnormalities. I regret not doing the NK biopsy (which is part of the MC investigation program) because I did a blood test after the last MC and one of my results came back borderline. Problem is, my period was late, so it was not performed at the right time of the cycle, so I do not know if the result would have been worse. My FS is going to try and look into this. Meanwhile, I cannot perform the test as I am have started an IVF cycle and the test cannot be done when you have taken Provera (it affects the results IYKWIM).

    Meredith - the SCSA test was very important for my testing, The DNA fragmentation may in some way (and I don't know how it all works) contribute to my chromosonal losses. But DH has been taking BioAce Excel (massive antioxident ****tail) amongst his other vitamins, so it may have helped the results. It was automatically a part of the MC investigation program I did, so Sydney IVF (who run the program) must think it is worth investigating.

  3. #3
    Registered User

    Aug 2008
    Sydney
    125

    WTH Thats great news about your DH SCSA results but Sorry about the gene mutation and that AF didn't arrive before Friday. I hope this week flys by for you and Friday is quickly knocking on your doorstep.

    I am saying lots of prayers for you and hoping that you get heaps of A+++++ quality eggs and your BFP next month sending your a truck load of

    Redlady Goodluck with your acupuncture. Let me know how it goes at Rozelle as I am currently seeing an acupuncturist in Chatswood and find him overly expensive a ($135 a session not including TCM which $450 for 3 weeks) and was going to change to Rozelle clinic.

    Also I know you mentioned your DH is taking mens multi vitamins just from my DH experience he has always taken mens mutli vitamins without fail since I have known him so when he got the test results back the first time I was shocked. When FS mentioned vitamins and antioxidants. I said but DH takes multi vitamins every day so thats not going to make a difference. However the FS was quick to respond and said multi vitamins are not good enough and does not have the correct dosage of the specific vitamins and antioxidants needed and pushed us in the direction of menevit. So DH continued to take his multi vitamins and menevit at the same time.

    Meredith Hi I have heard different ppl say different things about SCSA testing. The acupuncturist I am seeing says its a load of crap and is just an excuse for IVF not working. But FS was adamant that it was a huge contributing factor to our m/c as FS said that sperm DNA carries the information required to make the egg grow during the 1st few weeks. With DNA fragmentation the sperm does not carry the whole information required as it is damaged so when the sperm and egg meet the egg gets fertilized however fails to continue to grow as it did not receive all the information needs and sadly results in a miscarriage or infertility. Which is my case sounds like it was exactly what was happening as mine were at 5 1/2 weeks both times. That is my personal experience anyway.

    Cuddlepie :goodluck2:Goodluck with your DH test results I hope there is a great improvement lets me know how it goes.

    Magic Thanks for posting on our forum and giving us hope. It is always great to hear success stories. You must be an amazing women to go through 21 IVF cycles and not give up. I'm glad you got your miracle baby in the end and all your and DH hard work paid off
    Last edited by Tam83; September 27th, 2008 at 09:33 AM.

  4. #4
    Registered User

    Sep 2008
    Sydney
    752

    WTH - That makes sense with the test, in any case it sounds like SIVF covers this all very well. Very much hoping the IVF will work for you. Are you now close to starting the FSH?

    Tam - Thanks for the advice. Actually went out today and bought the Menevit - I checked it against what he is taking and the Menevit has Lycopene and garlic while the Blackmores stuff doesn't, everything else is the same with the Blackmores including a range of other vitamins as well. It's a very small outlay and may maximise our chances. The Rozelle acupuncture costs $120 for the first visit (1.5 hours) and $60 for subsequent visits (1 hour), it's not easy to get an appointment outside of business hours, my first one is only End of October.

    BW - I'll be seeing Bernice - she currently works in Annandale and will be taking over from Jann who'll go on long service leave in October, have looked at Bernice's profile at the Annandale place and she seems very experienced. Have you seen someone in Rozelle?

  5. #5
    Registered User

    Dec 2005
    6,706

    Getting an initial appointment at Rozelle is hard. After that, they keep you booked up well in advance so it's not too bad. I go fortnightly now and have bookings up until the end of the year, which seems crazy, but is kinda necessary! They have waitlists, and I have to say that I've never not got an appointment when I've been waitlisted and when things like EPUs and embryo transfers pop up they slot me in on the required day without much trouble. I've even had a practicioner come in for me on her day off just so I could have a session after transfer.

    I've normally see Leah, but I've also seen Mel, and I know Sally quite well from when she used to be the receptionist there. They are all lovely. I've never seen Jann, and didn't know about Bernice, but I can't imagine them employing anyone who doesn't know their stuff!

    Tam, I'd highly recommend switching to Rozelle - they are much cheaper than your current place (as red lady pointed out). They don't always use herbs, but when they do it's usually $30 - how long they last depends on dosage, but they tended to avoid them with me because I don't tolerate liquid medicines well and would have trouble getting them down.

    BW