Sara - that's a lot of tampons! sounds like a sure sign that your body has been through a lot. I would imagine that this indicates your hormones are all amuck - no wonder you are feeling like you do. And of course, the disappointment. There are so many threads and posts about feeling this way after a non-successful cycle - you are not alone and what you are feeling is normal. Hope you are able to get out tomorrow and do some kind of walk just to clear your head ... if not, maybe there's something else you can do that will allow you to escape for a few hours.
Sara can I say I know what you are going through. My Af is always heavier after stims, but to make you feel a little better on my heaviest day I go through a super tampon every half and hour to an hour. They tell me that I shouldn't use tampons when it is like this but I will stand up and everything will completely flood without them. My AF have been unbelievably heavy since the birth of DS. I even rang health direct (before starting AC) to see if there was something wrong with me. I know TMI but I also get big clots nurse has told me that it is from all the hormones. Hope this hasn't grossed anyone out and is helpful or comforting somewhat.
Actually Saph it really helps to know, I talked to my sister yesterday and she also normally goes to a few super tampons on her worst day which made me feel a bit better. Stayed in bed all day yesterday just reading a book and then went ourt for dinner with friends, now feeling suitably restored this morning that I think I can dare going on the walk (its 11km but mostly on firetrails so shouldn't be too hard).
Julie: How are you going - hope you are able to a void D& C and are felling better.
Sara, I hope you are gaining your strength now and got over those unpleasant bleeding...
sorry I have been away, with mum is here, life is quite busy but in a nice way.
Went to see FS last Thursday with my long list of immunological testings, he is really nice about it and had no trouble to get me tested. He also brought the fibroids issue up again, yuk. So I guess I can't turn a blind eye on it anymore and he says will do endometrum biopsy when I schedule in my surgery. We also plan to try a flare cycle for May/June before the surgery as a last chance. Then I will have to take 3 months break after the surgery, this year is almost gone...:-(
I went for the dreaded b/t last Friday, 15 vials of blood, lucky I was lying down when blood was taken. The lady who did it was very kind and that reminded me that I need to write her a 'thank you' card. I am so reliefed that its been done now...regardless what result it is, I will hopefully have an answer.
Now just waiting for result, she said my Doc will get it Mon/Tue, so a bit anxious....
Also seeing Dr. Sacks on Tuesday, hopefully with the results and seeking second opinion. Then I will deciding what I will do for the next cycle.
hope everyone else had a lovely weekend, I need to catch up on some personals soon....
Sara - I am probably a bit late posting this, but I generally have a light to medium AF. But after my cancelled and failed IVF cycles, my AF was very heavy. I made sure I remembered to take my iron but I still felt incredibly drained. Glad it has eased a little and hope you enjoyed your bushwalk
Cuddlepie - WOW - you certainly have your plan underway. I did the same 15 darned viles of blood so I know how you feel Good luck with your appointment with Dr Sacks (I met with him, too - great for NK cell issue investigation) and hope you get some answers when your BT results come through.
Julie - you are such a rock of support. Hope you are holding up OK
WTH: Thanks for letting me know, it's good to hear that it's just normal. Hope everything is okay with you.
CP: Hope your appointment with Dr S was productive.
Julie: have posted to you in the other thread, thinking of you.
Meredith: always lurking to see how you and WTH are goign in the pregnancy thread - hope things are still okay.
Kel: hun, how are you going? You are in my thoughts.
WLAB: have posted to you in the other thread, keeping fingers crossed.
Saph, BDT, Lisa, BW, Kate
AFM: Cramping again this morning although AF is nearly over, hope everything will get back to normal, finally got my list of questions together for my FS and have emailed them to her, will post them below, any suggestions appreciated.
Antagonist vs Flare cycle: I am wondering what your opinion is on whether my next cycle should be a a flare or an antagonist cycle. I don't want to take the pill before a cycle as I am worried of getting understimulated again but have heard from a number of women who did a flare cycle without the pill - you mentioned a problem that can ocur in this case, can you please explain it to me again.
DHEA: I am back on taking 50mg since day day of the BT - should I increase it to 75mg? I have the side effect of very greasy skin.
Colorado protocol: I'd like to hear your thoughts on the Colorado protocol. One friend told me her protocal which includes: AUGMENTIN, Estraderm MX patch, Prednisolone, Astrix 100mg - do you think I could benefit from this?
Day 6 transfer: In both cycles the Blastocyst was only tested on Day 6, I am worried that this lowers the chances of implantation - do you have statistics from SIVF which show implantation rates of Day 6 vs Day 5 transfers?
Elevated FSH: Is there anything I can do about this? From the result of the last cycle at what level of FSH would you adise me to do a cycle (personally I would prefer to wait until the FSH is 13 or lower but I obviously dont know if that ever again is going to be the case)
Egg donation: Do you think I should already think about egg donation or is it worthwhile to keep trying with my own eggs for another one or two cycles?
DP' s supplements: Is there anything else DP should be taking - I've heard som men also take Fish Oil, Vitamin D, Bio Zinc, CoQ10 - 150mg - DP at the moment takes Menevit plus Blackmores Men Multi.
My supplements: I am taking Blackmores preconception, CoQ10 - 100mg, Iron tablets (They also contain B complex and Vitamin C) Folate 500mg. I have heard that too much Folate is not good I am currently taking 1g on advise from SIVF - can youplease confirm I should continue with this. Some women also take: Bio Zinc, Vitamin D Ostelin - should I include this?
Empty follicles syndrom: Please let me know your thoughts on how this could be avoided.
Orgalutran: I am wondering if there is the possibility that I might have ovulated as I took the last Orgalutran about 26 hours BEFORE the trigger on advice from the nurse - would it be better to take Orgalutran on the night of the trigger as well - that is what I was told to do during my cycle in January.
Trigger: You were saying something about perhaps using a larger dosage of the trigger and I have also heard that using Pregnyl as the trigger could be of benefit.
I have also read a scientific article by Dr Lok and am wondering if you would advise to consult him for a second opinion on this issue (I am not thinking about changing FS)?
That is a fantastic list of questions. I think it is great you have forwarded them on to your FS in advance to that you get optimal mileage from your appointment.
Just wanted to talk to you about "too much folate". My understanding is that as a B vitamin (B9), your body will excrete any it does not need. I take the 5mg (10X normal dose) of folate. I originally started taking the larger dose after my first chromosonal loss that in a Dutch study, women who had lower folate intake had a great chance of Trisomy 21. I went on to read it helps with red blood cell division, and that some women believe taking extra helped them conceive (I cannot explain this one, not sure about it). After my third loss (a Trisomy 15), I did the MC investigation program and they discovered I have a double gene for MTHFR. In some women this raises their homocysteine levels, resulting in blood clotting disorders. My level was fine, but they still recommend the 5mg dose, regardless, along with extra B12 and B6 to absorb it.
But.... It is dangerous to take high levels of B6 (pyrodixine). I have read up to 100mg a day is fine - and it assists with extending luteal phase length. But higher doses over a long period can cause nerve damage. Was just wondering if perhaps this is the B-vitamin you were reading about that can be harmful in high doses. Basically my understanding is that you can't have too much folate. My OB said if he had his way, every one would be on the 5mg - man or woman, regardless of age. It has many other qualities (but can't remember what they are as I have a one-track TTC mind)
Welcome Onja!
I hope your time in this thread is short and sweet
If you also want to talk about general aspects of IVF, you can find a good thread HERE too. You are welcome to post about your PGD journey in the PGD thread. There are a few other members who are either going through PGD or have done in the past.
Good luck with your appointment with Dr Sacks (I met with him, too - great for NK cell issue investigation) and hope you get some answers when your BT results come through.
to Kel, WLAB, Saph, Meredith and Lisa
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