Thanks Tigga i have read that somewhere before i will send DH down the street to get some lucazade (i thinks its called).
My FS told me not to take herbs and vitex and my E2 was to high to start last month so i went back on it and my E2 was almost normal after one month on it so i think you should do what you feel is right a lot of doctors are all for science somtimes there is room for natural therapies i did not tell my FS i went back on liquid vitex until after i started my cycle and she diddnt seem to be bothered.
AFM-I trigger tonight at 1am and EPU monday at 1pm cross your fingers for me that i don't get OHSS and that i don't get to sick from the sedative when i can get my head out of the toilet bowl monday i will get online and tell you how i went.
Hoping for 10-12 nice eggies.
Last edited by ferrals5; December 22nd, 2009 at 10:26 AM.
Tigga - I was taking Sharkeys herbs all year until last month (when I ran out and decided not to order more) and my FS was totally fine with it, so long as I stopped taking them from the start of FSH injections. I found it helped to stabilise my cycle...which had been pretty erratic ... and helped to delay ovulation until day 13 or so. Which doesn't really matter for IVF anyway...but is good for trying naturally. Like i think I've said before... i'll try anything... so I reckon you go for the chinese herbals. I don't know anything about DHEA though... sorry.
Ferrals - gee you just reminded me that I need to drink heaps of water. Thanks for that. I'd forgotten. I hope it all goes ok for you.... try to relax and drink heaps. I'll be thinking of you.
I had my EPU we got 8 eggs the FS said i am not at risk for OHSS now she is not worried as my ovaries are perfect size and she thinks it was because i had a few really big follicles that pushed my E2 up so she has even put me on etrogen support tablets as she is worried my E2 will drop to much (go figure ) anyway so now we wait for the fertilisation report and pray they make it all the way
Last edited by ferrals5; November 24th, 2009 at 05:35 AM.
ferrals - that all is very good news. I hope you get an outstanding fertilization report.
Tigga - who knows when my cycle will be. I've paid for it, have the drugs, should have had AF on Friday and she's nowhere. And believe me...there's no little miracle in my belly. I knew my cycle was messed up from the readings on my fertility monitor - but I have no way of knowing how messed up. I hope AF arrives before 3 Dec as that's my clinic's Xmas cut-off. If I don't get it by the 3rd I think we are done with IVF with my own eggs as my cut-off was end of year and I don't want to change it. I'm really over the battle against my body and am only doing this last cycle because I promised DH I would. The thing is, that would mean I've been taking DHEA for nothing for 3 months (my longest stretch on it - so what a waste!). I don't think DHEA has anything to do with the types of herbs your Chinese medicine guy is giving - at least, it doesn't have anything to do with AF - my understanding is that its sole purpose is to try to give you "younger" eggs. That being said, I'm no expert on interactions between drugs so it may be worth having your Chinese medicine person write down the names of the herbs and giving them to your FS. Although I say this, I have never followed my own advice- I have taken stuff prescribed by a naturopath as well as a Chinese herbs (at different times) all without consulting with my FS!
Tigga i hope so i am to scared to get my hopes up i have had such a bad run of luck i am terrified if i let my guard down and become optimistic that things will work out i will get hurt again so i am trying not to get excited until one is on board.
Well i was right to not get my hopes up they want them over 6 cells on day 3 we have
1)9 cells
2)8 cells
1)7 cells
2)5 cells
2)4 cells
the embroligist has said they are good to fair as they have some fragmentation so the last 4 wont make it and the first 4 need to have the energy to make it i am disapointed
Ok just spoke to the head scientist he said our numbers are standard for day 3 of our 4 good embies they are grade 1 and 2 so he is happy he said of the 8 eggs he would expect us to have 4 good ones on day 3 so he told me not to worry and it is scarey but everything is going normally.
Anyos-congratz on your natural BFP it makes me feel confident i have plenty of time to get pregnant so my clock is ticking a little quieter now.
Tigger- good to see you are on all your teatment and getting a seconed oppinion all the best i will be looking out for your updates.
AFM-I am great life is good i have the man of my dreams who adores me and 3 healthy teenagers driving me batty my AF is almost finnished so i am looking forward to TTC again after 8 months of being safe for the PDG IVF so i am getting excited we both feel confident we will be 3rd time lucky and hope mother nature will give us a healthy baby this time i just hope it doesnt take to long it took 5 months to fall pregnant with abbi i would like it to happen a bit quicker so i can get to 12 weeks do the cvs and get the all clear and than relax so i am on the vitex and all the vitamins ect and start the robitussin in 4 days i did that the month i got pregnant with abbi so i hope it works this time round anyway i am rambling on i have to hit the hay have to get up early i will check back in soon.
Last edited by ferrals5; December 8th, 2009 at 08:45 AM.
Anyos - how are you going. Have you had a scan yet? Hope all is well!
Ferrals - Good luck on the natural path...at least it's fun...unlike IVF.
AFM, went to see a new FS yesterday. Talk about a man on a mission...after some thorough questioning, he was like "right, this is what we're going to do to get you pregnant..." Then proceeded to do a biopsy of my uterus right then and there for NK Cell testing (will have results back in 2.5weeks), then next step is a lap/hyst before end of year (my last lap was in 2007 and I got a natural BFP 7 months later - he seems to think that endo could have grown back) and if all that is clear in the new year I will do a totally different protocol to anything my other FS has ever suggested - he's like "we've got no time to waste, let's rule everything out and then throw everything in". I kind of liked the way he took control - my other FS is more consulting like, "you can have a lap if you want, you can try DHEA if you want". The new FS seemed hopeful, told me to focus on the fact that I've been pregnant 3 times and not focus on the high FSH or PR tag - so, with some renewed hope and a new motivated FS between my legs (hahaha)...I'll be off and running soon. I'm glad I sought the second opinion and even though my travel time has now gone from 10mins to the old clinic to 1hr10mins to the new clinic - I hope it will all be worth it!
Dutchie, Bulie, Daisie - Hi! Hope you ladies are all good.
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) anyway so now we wait for the fertilisation report and pray they make it all the way
that's brilliant news! 
I think you're well on you way to a BFP!! Just a matter of time now.
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