Dutchie - Just read about you starting to cycle again and your fantastic 8.2 fsh level!! and am popping in to say GREATEST OF LUCK TO YOU FOR THIS ONE!! I'll have everything crossed for you.
BulieJ - I have another FS appointment on 18th Sept - to discuss next cycle plan. Perhaps he'll be more up for a discussion about EPP. I know what you mean about that feeling of desperation and the biological clock...it really fogs my head and sometimes I no longer know what I actually want. The counsellor at my clinic mentioned that she had a patient that had gone to Mexico for donor egg cycle - evidently super easy and loads of donors around. Might be something to look into - would be cheaper than US too I reckon. I hope you are well.
I'm still waiting for post D&C AF (it's now been 5.5 weeks). Hopefully not too far away - but I think I have decided to give it another go when FS gives me green light. Afterall, you've gotta be in it to win it!
hi ladies, haven't posted here for a while but thought I might after reading recent discussions.
Tigger I hope you're ok and glad you're back on track with planning the next cycle. Lets hope the FS is a little more accomodating and willing to explore other options for you.
Bulie J, how are you going? It's hard gauging what the right protocol is and trial/error can be so expensive! We've explored pretty much everything out there, natural fertility (which worked for us initially), donor eggs (DH isn't happy about that one) and adoption as well. I can't understand either why donation and adoption is so hard here.
Dutchie how are you going honey? When are you having a scan?
AFM just started new cycle, FSH 10.7, flare cycle, 10mg Lucerin & 300 Puregon. The Lucerin is messing with my head, yesterday I felt like I was under the influence of 'class A' drugs! Much better today thankfully.
btw this some feedback from my FS regarding empty follicle syndrome & EEP:
Answer -I agree, which is why I recommended a different treatment regimen and a higher dose of the trigger injection to try and do everything we can to get the eggs to mature and release from the side wall. *The quality of the eggs, though, if there were any there, would not have been very good: That is why the more difficult it is to successfully aspirate an egg at egg retrieval, the more likely it is that such an egg is chromosomally abnormal and "incompetent" (i.e. incapable of developing into a normal pregnancy). This state of affairs is most commonly encountered in women with diminished ovarian reserve (i.e. "poor responders"), women over 40 and in women with polycystic ovarian syndrome (PCOS) who do not receive an optimal protocol of controlled ovarian hyperstimulation (COH).
Answer -I have used a modified estrogen priming regimen in the past with not such great results.* We can discuss if the next cycle is not any better.
3. What are your thoughts regarding using the Colorado method?
Answer - I have yet to see a clinical paper showing the success of the Colorado protocol. *Some of it is counterintuitive to me, like using antibiotics that, in my view, may
actually hinder implantation. *Colorado is designed to try and improve implantation.
It has nothing to do with improving eggs.
Tigga- Hope AF arrives for you soon and you can get stuck into another cycle. I'll be cheering you on the whole way. Thank you for your kind words and yes, 8.2 is definitely nothing to be sneezed at.
anyos- thanks for all that info, I'm putting together an email for my FS regarding EPP and the A/ACP so the extra info you provided is really great. I too wondered about empty follie syndrome as I have in all my cycles had follicles big enough that should have yielded eggs but unfortunately didn't (they would have been immature but still should have had eggs in them) so wondered whether a higher trigger dose might be beneficial for me. Look I may be way off they have never mentioned EFS but I think it's worth mentioning. Lots to think about and discuss further with FS.
buliej- Hope you are travelling well hun.
Last edited by Dutchie80; September 11th, 2009 at 12:05 PM.
anyos - Thanks so much for that link. It definitely helped boost my 'hope' - that BFP's for high FSH'ers can and does happen. Thanks so much. I hope you're cycle is going well!
Dutchie - I hope you are ok and the clouds are lifting for you. It takes time - but it does get easier.
buliej - How are going? Any plans to cycle again with EPP?
AFM, 7 weeks since D&C and AF finally arrived! Very light this time, but she's at least here. As long as there's no surprises I will be cycling again next month (I'm sitting this cycle out as per FS's recommendation). News from me is that, today I started on DHEA (FS finally prescribed it) which I am hoping will make the difference. I'm on 3x25mg tablets daily (75mg). Statistically, it takes 3-5 months to get maximum benefit from DHEA, but I'll continue cycling until that point - may as well get in as many as I can while the safety net's still in place.
Can I say that I think it's great how you gals can email your FS's and FN's for info...I can barely get the Q's answered when I'm in there - let alone get an email address off mine.
anyos - Sorry about your cycle which I just read about on the other thread. I've been there. My first cycle had one follie at first stim scan (I was on 450 Gonal F) and then 2 more popped up at 2nd scan. On FS's recommendation though, I went to EPU and did ICSI on the two lonely eggs that were retrieved. Only one was good enough to transfer (that was the chem preg). I'll be praying for a natural miracle for you - seems like us high FSH'ers get a few of those, so it can happen. (I'm secretly hoping for one myself in my break! Oh! We can but dream!!)
Tigga- woooohoooo for starting the DHEA, I hope it makes all the difference for you and boosts your egg quality and quantity!
I would seriously hound your FS/FN for their email, I think you have every right to have it to ask any questions you have as they arise. I was given my FS's by the nurses when I asked for it without any real dramas and I sent off an email tues just gone and had a reply within an hour- I was very impressed! Now if I could just get them to come round to the idea of trying the A/ACP with EPP with me!
When I heard back from FS regarding my latest cycle, I did ask about this protocol and they said they would have to look it up but basically that studies have shown no real improvement in situations like mine I guess I'll have to work on them some more and get my butt into gear with this email- I've had a lot on recently.
and am popping in to say GREATEST OF LUCK TO YOU FOR THIS ONE!! I'll have everything crossed for you.
I guess I'll have to work on them some more 
and get my butt into gear with this email- I've had a lot on recently.
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