Anyone out there who has ovulated early in short cycle?
Hi there,
Just got back today from egg collection for my third attempt at IVF. Was so upset to find out that there were no eggs collected as I ovulated before egg collection!!!
I just don't understand how this can happen. Is there anyone out there who knows about this at all? I am on a short antagonist cycle and I thought the orgalutran (sp??) was supposed to make sure I did not ovulate.
So upset.
Katy
All I know is that EVERYONE ovulates 2 weeks before there period. No matter what the length of your cycle. people with a long cycle have the extra days between period and ovulation. and those with shorter have less days between period and ovulation.
so the only thing I can say is you wouldn't have ovulated early unless the days were misscalculated.
Thanks for replying! I was beginning to feel very loney out here in cyber world or whatever it is...
The 'normal' ovulation pattern of your body is not supposed to matter in IVF as they give drugs to stop ovulation and then drugs to make your body plan for it to happen just after they collect the eggs. The drugs obviously did not work on me.
Yes ... I thought of that. My egg-pickup was booked for 38 hours after trigger injection. On all the sites I have read it says that they should be scheduled for 32 - 36 hours after trigger injection.
Unfortunately my doc headed off to an overseas conference that day so won't be able to get anything out of her until next Tues. Very frustrating.
Hi Katy,
So sorry to hear of your troubles, I can imagine nothing more frustrating and dissapointing, I have had a few cancelled cycles myself. From what I understand the orgalutran is definitely supposed to stop you from ovulating, however I have heard that some women are more senstive or not sensitive enough to some types of drugs, I have heard some women having problems on Syneral also. I am sure your FS would look at this and review another protocol. Have you been on orgalutran for your other cycles, assuming it worked ok for them?
From what I understand it is actually closer to 40 hours from trigger, most FSs schedule EPU at 36 hours which leaves them some time for delays, so I wouldn't think that EPU was done too late, rather you perhaps had a premature LH surge and the orgalutran did not prevent this.
It seems all the FSs are at this conference in Amsterdam. I hope you can get some answers from you FS, wishing you all the best. xx
Thanks for responding. That is good to know about the 40hours after trigger.
I have done 2 other long cycles with synarel. The first was cancelled due to me not producing enough follicles. In the second, I again did not produce enough but they went ahead anyway and I got 2 fertilised embryos. It became a chemical pregnancy.
I changed docs - my other one was terrible. New one is great. I think she put me on quite a low dose of Org.. as she suspected the synarel was stifling me too much .... seems the dose must have been too low.
Will have more answers next Tues. Are you currently on ivf??
Katy
Hi Katy,
I must be that the orgalutran dose was too low. How many follies did you have this time? I guess sometimes it is a balance to get all the doses right, especially with changing Drs and protocols. I have done a total of 10 assisted conception cycles, my first cycle was a pill down reg, cancelled before EPU due to overstim, my second I still overstimed but went to EPU only, I ended up with 15 embies but they were all slow growing and fragmented. I did 3 x HRT FETs with these. Subsequently I did another 2 more stim cycles then changed to a new FS. I tested + for MTHFR which changed my treatment (low dose aspirin and Clexane). I also changed to antagonist cycles, my first my dose was too low so I was converted to an IUI (so I understand when things don't go to plan), the second antagonist I got my first ever BFP. A total of 7 ETs to get there. I am just waiting for my viability scan to check all is ok, so am still loitering in these threads.
I am sure you won't take near as long as me, and hope now that your new FS understands how your body behaves, you will get your BFP right away. xx
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Katyjane, a quick hello from me, I did post you a nice long response, then my computer crashed, however BDTime, seems to be helping you through, so thats great
I don't know WHY it happened, but the exact same thing happened to me as well. The first IVF cycle was a down reg (didn't use orgal) and went quite well apart form not falling PG - 2nd cycle the tried the protocol with orgal, and I O'd days before I was supposed to (I normally have short cycles). So it just doesn't work for some people. They will change your protocol accordingly. Hang in there, I got PG the next cycle when once again everything went wrong - they cancelled the IVF, but tried an IUI as a last resort and miraculously it worked.
Hi Baby Dreamtime.
Wow! You have been through so much. Am so so happy for you that you have a positive result this time. Fingers crossed for you. Please let me know how you go. Your comments have made me feel better about the whole situation and I am getting the idea that no matter how straight forward things seem to be heading into the IVF game, just when you think you have all bases covered you are thrown yet another curve ball!
Katy x
Thanks 'Wouldloveabub' - just nice to know people are out there reading the posts and even trying to respond. x
Neptune - Isn't that amazing that the IUI worked!! They wouldn't do IUI following the procedure for us cause Hub's sample was only good for ICSI. Am so glad it worked for you - and it shows me that you just never know hey????!#$T%#$^%#!!! How far along are you?
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