Kelly- Do you normally have irregular cycles? Maybe you can ask your FS to give you a course of provera to bring AF on. My cycles are totally irregular so my new FS said he would put me on a course if I ever needed to get things starting. It's worth a try..
Hope AF comes soon though. I get the whole waiting thing. My longest was 63 days....so annoying.
I always have irregular cycles and have used provera on a number of occassions during our time TTC to get AF started. My FS was hopeful that AF would arrive seeing as I had bleeding on day 14 after transfer which they stopped by giving me more Crinone as we had a faint positive at 52.
I get the feeling that I will have to used provera again in Sept to get things moving for our FET.
My cycles can vary from not having AF for up to 8 mths or I can get continually spotting for 2-3 mths. So frustrating when all you are trying to do is move forward and dreaded AF doesn't help.
Anyway, I'll see what FS advises and go from there....
Hi KellyD and Aleenta and others who are waiting for their AF to come. I know the feeling of inactivity (on the procreation front that is) is doing to all of us. I am sorry to hear that you have the added stress of not knowing when your AF will come because of irregular cycles.
AFM, although I have to allow one whole AF cycle after my m/c before I can do further treatment, I have been keeping a tap on how by body is going. This is killing my DH instead, as I have been measuring my temperature and watching CM on a daily basis. If my calculations is correct I should be getting my AF next Wed, although I feel my body is not back to normal. Today I registered another basal temp increase which I can only assume that the Progesterone is a bit off track ( my temp normally increases after ovulation, stays there and then drops when I get AF).
I did end up going to a Chinese medicine doctor who did give me herbs to drink! yuck! He did one wonderful thing though. I came one day with a sore throat and he did some stuff which gave me instant relief and the sore throat went away (I am very scared of sore throat as it is an indication of an emerging cold). One thing though which I would like your opinion, I didn't get the impression that he wanted to do acupuncture for me during my treatment. He said that he would help me regulate my body through acupuncture and herbal medicine (presently) and it should help with my treatment in a few weeks time. He gave no indication that he would give me acupuncture when I do the transfer. What should I do???
Update, spoke to FS and start Provera tonight for a week to get this damned AF started. They also indocated that I will have to go back on the pill for my FET (thought as much) so that we can plan the transfer as I will definately get AF after being on the pill. finally we get moving onto our next cycle.
Kahlan: I am seeing a Chinese medicine doctor next week to do Acupuncture, he specialises in infertility and IVF and has told me that he prefers to do acupunture treatments just prior too and just after transfer. I suppose they all have different plans depending on your body and it's needs. If it helps get the end result, then
I am all for giving it a go.
Hello to all! I am new in this thread. Briefly, have been trying TTC for approx 2.5 years - recent laparoscopy mild endo but tubes blocked. MFI as well. Just seen the IVF doc for the 2nd time - not suitable for IUI, so straight onto IVF. Waiting for AF to arrive, then I will start the agonist approx 21 days.
Very nervous and apprehensive, but excited that we are on a pathway to somewhere!!! Lovely to meet you all. to all
Does anyone know the possible outcome of having low estrogen levels at day 8 of stims?
My follies are ok (i think) around 23 all up with 12 that are between 10 - 12mm, but the nurse told me today that my estrogen levels are not as high as they should be.
I'm taking 150 of Puregon and have been for the last 8 days, they told me that the BT on day 4 of stims was around the 360 mark and then day 8 they were only up to 430?
I don't really know what it means - I don't know where they should be by day 8.
I have to go back in tomorrow for another BT to check a different hormone? To see if my ovaries are working hard enough?
Anyone that has had similar results or can advise what is the expected levels - please please let me know.
The nurse said the size of the fols were ok, just the estrogen levels were lower thank expected. I assumed that they were a LOT lower than expected - by I could have been reading too much into it.
I've been feeling sick with worry all afternoon.
Sorry. Being miserable. I was just so excited this morning that it has been a bit of a shock and disappointment to hear that news.
Being new to IVF, I can't really give you any advice, but I'm sure things are fine. Try not to worry too much - I'm sure someone more experienced and knowledgeable will be along soon with some advice....
Nic - that follie size sounds good hun some people devlop levels at different rates I can't tell you what mine were beacuse my FS did'nt BT for the last few cycles just went on follie size but for you. Plus this being your first your body may react a little different to the norm but sure it is doing its thing hang in there and try not to stress yes easy for me to say
Nic mini meltdowns are normal hun esp with cycle one you question everything (actually that does not change much ) My stims were always done in the stomach if it stings just use an ice cube
Nic - sorry to hear about the spanner in the works. I dont know the details of IVF yet (still learning) but it looks really emotionally difficult. Hang in there I hope it all works for u.
Last edited by Maruschke; August 29th, 2008 at 10:26 PM.
Thanks again girls. I've got acupuncture after BT and then I guess there will be more of a plan in the arvo once the results are in.
Oscar - It has been ok until recently - I think since the stims started and knowing that we are close, but not knowing how close. It is starting to do my head in. But I know it will be worth it - I've found some great girls and some great support here. The wishes and thoughts from those who may not know all the in's and outs of IVF are as appreciated as those who have been round the track a couple of times. Thank you for taking the time to leave a note for me. :-)
Linda - I did my first stim in the belly and it stung, bled and bruised (but I think the puregon is quite a bit different to the lucrin that I had gotten used to). I think I will be able to deal with the Puregon in the belly now. It will be interesting to see if there is any difference. The nurse said it wasn't anything to worry about just yet so fingers crossed the plan tomorrow will set things back on track.
Nic - thanks, I'm about to embark on the AC / IVF / unknown AC path next cycle and I'm sure then I'll have a better idea of just how stressful it is. Until Istarted TTC I had no idea just how emotionally draining it all was. I have a confession, embarassingly my aunt used IVF when I was a teen, and I was silently thinking "oh if she just relaxes, it will happen". Im glad I said nothing to her. Ahhh I hope that karma doesnt come back to bite me on the bum, how wrong was I!!! Just thinking about it is stressful, and LTTC is stressful. I was sooooo wrong. You guys are incredibly strong and I admire you heaps. Goodluck Nic for your cycle
Im not even sure Im considered LTTTC yet (only 12 cycles), but I feel the pain and about to embark on AC so I hope its ok to be here?
EDIT:Nic I just saw your post in 'ttc' about sperm antibodies. This is about the only test we haven't had! Is it done as part of a usual SA? We have had two SA's done and I've never heard anything about it. We have poor swimmers and (way TMI) but I find it really hard to have any arousal fluid at all so we think maybe his swimmers find it hard to swim in the acidic environment?
Last edited by Maruschke; August 29th, 2008 at 10:27 PM.
Oscar, of course it's ok for you to be here. Where else can you go to hear the first hand experiences of the journey you are about to embark on? We had only been TTC for about 8 months, but due to some surgery DH had when he was younger we thought there may be a chance that conception may be an issue. We got it checked out and here we are.
It's amazing how differently you see things when everything you thought would come so naturally doesn't eventuate. Don't get hung up on what you thought about our aunt back in the day. It's the old shoulda, coulda, woulda - it won't do you any favours to torture yourself - Karma can be a b*tch, but only if you let it :-)
Stick around - I'd like to know how everything goes for you. I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for you.
PS: I think we come here to unload to people who understand what we're going through - but please don't let it scare you into thinking this path is unbearable.
I can't speak for everyone else, but for me - I won't stop and I will not give this up no matter the let downs and the disappointments. I probably sound silly because this is my first cycle and I can tell you that there are some amazingly strong women here who have been through a lot more than me, but it gives me the strength to believe that no matter what happens I can manage and I can stay strong and do whatever is necessary for as long as is necessary.
finally we get moving onto our next cycle.
and Sprinkle 
I have been thinking of you all.
Neptune. Wishing you a short visit here in Long Term TTC.
for you. Plus this being your first your body may react a little different to the norm but sure it is doing its thing hang in there and try not to stress yes easy for me to say 
) My stims were always done in the stomach if it stings just use an ice cube
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