Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception - Dec 2007 #1

[slyder]

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[blackduckies]

Hi girls,
Mon I am in the same boat as you, last Friday I went for my scan to find only 2 follies big enough. Cycle was cancelled, I have been on a mission ever since to get some answers and try and work out another protocol for next time.(Feb) I am feeling a little better now, but the first few days I was devestated. I think it was a good thing you went on to egg collection, I now wished I had, I think I would have had a much better chance than on my own. We triggered on the Friday night and I ovulated on the Sunday morning and we tried very hard to catch those eggies ourselves. So I am now in the TWW but feel a bit in limbo, because I don't really think it will work, hence the reason for wishing we had continued on, and given them a better chance???? The best advice I can give you is let yourself grieve, it is normal to feel average when you hear people talk about large/good numbers of eggies and embies and do some reading it really helps to make yourself feel better informed and not just in the hands of the Doc's. I have accepted the fact that I may not get big numbers of eggs and next time we will go with whatever we have. Good luck and I am thinking of you.

Vicki if I were you I would ask to go ahead, you have a least 2 and if the others are in double figures they have a chance, estimated growth is 2mm a day and I think from memory they need to be 14-16 to be productive. So even if you trigger tonight they still have 3mm growing to do before EPU. I say go for it and give them a chance as I said to Mon I wish I had given my 2 the chance. If they don't fertilize or continue on because of immaturity etc the cycle will be cancelled them, and you won't lose any $$$$. Good luck with your decision.

Melsta good luck with the transfer, they sound like strong uns and nice to have a lot to put in the freezer.

DD, thinking of you!! Lots of good advice and from girls who know their stuff. Take it easy, but I think good to have a plan and lets hope you can stick with it.

BW, glad you are feeling a bit better, definately sounds as though hospital is the place to be, even if it is awful.

BG, glad things went smoothly and you have an embie on board.

Hi Dusty, TL and everyone who I have missed, hope you are all well.

[barney]

hi to everyone i just wanted to pop my head in and say hello and to let you all no im coming back soon,wont be long i just need a couple of good pays and im back and cant wait i wish you all the best with you cycles

[Mon]

Hi every1 ... have been MIA for the past week as have been busy with work and have been engrossed in the Journals!
Anyway thought I'd pop my head in and say hi. I've been on synarel for what feels like forever, and am waiting for AF to come before starting Gonal F! Went for BT yesterday and hormones still not suppressed enough, so will be back for BT on Monday. If not suppressed by Mon they will probably have to cancel this cycle as it will run too close to Xmas (bugga) ... so anyway its out of my hands for now!

Sorry for lack of personals, a bit out of the loop, but will get back up to speed! Wishing you all the best of luck wherever you are at in your cycles! BG great news on your ET! Sending you lots of sticky vibes! Thanks for also keeping us posted on BW progress! BW hope you are feeling much betta!

Spk soon Mon

[dusty]

so good to see you Mon. come on AF hurry up Mon needs to get started! fingers crossed for you hun. sounds stressful enough without having to worry about the xmas shutdown

i hope you can slow down over the wknd.

smithy, can't wait to be in here with you again. 2008 is going to be our year hun!

[Pookiegirlba]

Dusty - I hadn't thought of doing what you suggested, but I don't think it would work for me and DH because he had a vasectomy about 10 years, hence the impossibility of conceiving naturally. If only!!

Melsta - thanks hun, I feel a bit more reassured now, and I hope we can make it to EPU.

BD - I assumed that I would have to cancel before EPU to avoid having to pay the full whack for the cycle, so I am very heartened by what you said, which means we could wait and see whether any eggs fertilise before cancelling. I will definitely talk to my FS about that possibility, should he want to cancel. Your advice has been a BIG help!

Well, I had the call from the clinic this arvo with the results of the BT and instructions from my FS: he wants me to continue on the Gonal F and Synarel till Monday and then I'll have another BT and ultrasound to see how things are. I know I'm not out of the woods just yet, but at least it's not a definite cancellation just yet, which is something. I'll be keeping my fingers crossed that there'll be at least a few good follies ready to go. All I have to do is sit and wait...and wait...and wait

Hope everyone has a great weekend!

Vicki

[Carla MP]

Hi everyone
I too have been a little quiet these days. I have read everyones posts and I can really feel for everyone. No personal posts tonight as I am still trying to catch up with everyones stories. Had to wait for next cycle to do FET. Have had 3 scans this week and for some reason my ovulation is slow. Not even in double figures. They say I could just be slow and might surge over the weeknd so have to do ovulation tests in case. Another scan on monday and hoping for big follies. Im not sure when i really ovulate as have never really taken noticed as this will be the first time on a natural cycle. Im kinda depressed as if i dont get big follies, have to wait for another round. What is going on?????? Why arent i ovulating. have never a prob before....they say maybe because I have a 30 day cycle??? Im on day 15 today. Is this normal or has anyone else had this problem. Why does it have to be so hard for us all????

[briggsy's girl]

another little BW update

have just spent a bit over half hour on the phone with BW (for the first time it was actually a voice chat instead of a cyber chat!) and she's asked me to update everyone on the status of her embryo's

as of today, she has two blasties on ice - some of the others MIGHT be frozen tomorrow, but she's not sure of how many, if any....


she's in pretty good spirits (provided i didn't make her laugh - which was very difficult!) and thinking she may be allowed home tomorrow - but is still on the drip to rehydrate her, so really not sure. her ovary scan today showed that her ovaries were still extremely enlarged (around 9cm x 9cm x 6cm each) and are touching across the front of her uterus - so very ouchie i'm sure!! she'll give more detail when she gets back to BB but i thought i'd do this update for you...

[dusty]

BG, wow BWs ovaries are huge! it is such a shame she has had to go through OHSS twice in 2 cycles. big hugs to you BW. yay for your blasties.

Carla, i hope you FET goes ahead soon. don't be a stranger, we are here to chat and help you out if you need it. yeah our cycles can do funny things when we don't want them too. your system has undergone some stress with your last IVF cycle and it may take some time to settle back down. these days I can O anywhere from day 10 to day 24 where as i used to be quite regular. the emotional stress also plays a big factor. hun, they are following you and will work out when you O, so go with it if you can.

vicki, hmmm i didn't realise your particular barrier to doing it the old fashioned way. sounds like they are still hopeful for you by pushing you out over the wknd. a back up plan may be IUI if they can get DH's boys. i don't know much about it but i always advocate that you ask as many questions as possible to get the best result for you. it is really stressful the not knowing, i hope you are doing ok hun.

[briggsy's girl]

and a bit more BW news...

just got an SMS from BW - she has another 5 embies on ice! so 7 in total. she's a lot happier now than she was for sure! doesn't look like she'll be allowed home today though...

[wannababy]

Hi all ...

was quite busy last week.. a lot of office work to be completed bfore going in for FET.

visited doc yesterday. was told the endometrial line seems promising at 9mm. will continue progynova tabs and Luperide shots til monday.. and then conversion to progestrone.. Hoping to have FET by 5th Dec.
any comments on wat is the perfect thickness of endometrial lining???
Fingers crossed and prayers for all BB sisters.

[briggsy's girl]

hi wannababy

i'm not sure what is considered "perfect" but i remember from my u/s before EPU that my endometium was at 14.6mm which they said was really good...

[tiggerlinda]

wow very busy in here will catch up soon

[Melsta]

morning all...

BG thanks for the update on BW sounds like she is in much better spirits and yay that she has some embies on ice !!! I cant believe how big her ovaries are though - wowzers ... no wonder they wont let her out ....

Carla - oh hun i hope it settles down soon for you, I can completely understand the whole "O" thing as before this I always "O" at a different time each month which would cause me to stress ouit and wonder what the heck was going on but in the end your body will know when the right time to respond is hun ... but always ask the questions hun of us in here and of your FS ... you are paying them the big bucks and you need to get as much information out of them as you can ... I hope your surge hun !!! All I know was any cycle history goes out the window when you start these AC cycles .... well that is what we were told anyway ... fingers crossed for you hun ....

Wannababy - good luck hun, agree with dusty as to what the perfect measurement is but mine was always up around double digits before they did our fresh transfer if in doubt ask them hun but good luck hey, dec 5 not too far away at all !!

Dusty, TL, Mon, morning girls hope you are having good weekends .... !!


I am now officially in the 2WW - my b/t is scheduled for Dec 12 so not really that long to wait and I am very calm and upbeat about it all. We had a top notch follie transfered yesterday and looks like we have another really good uns to freeze but they will call us today with those results. Our FS was impressed with the results as when he transferred it yesterday was the 1st time he had really seen it and the size etc so we have good odds to start, of course anything can change, but right now I am a cocoon mama and trying my darnest to help "Mini-Me" (my DH nickname for it) to stick .... lots of fluids and resting where I can ....

Off to go and stock up on fresh fruit and vegies to help Mini-Me .... will BBL ...

Sorry to anyone I missed will catch up on all the news later this pm ....

[Brownbug]

Hi everyone,

Hope you are all having a great weekend. Weather is very nice here in Melb, looks like we'll be in for a hot summer!

Melsta - well done with "Mini-me" - he/she sounds like a lovely strong embie!! Hope the TWW is kind to you.

Pookiegirlba - Good luck for your blood test and U/S tomorrow, hope those follies are coming along nicely for you.

Blackduckies - Fingers crossed you can catch those eggies yourselves and you don't need to worry about another cycle

Dellydoo - Thinking of you, hope all is going well.

BW - Glad you are feeling better. I never realised OHSS could be so awful, you poor thing. Great news about your 7 frosties though!

BG - Congratulations on having your embie on board. Best of luck for your two week wait.

Hello and best wishes to everyone else. XXX

I'm still plodding along in my TWW. Still getting heaps of cramps though, so not feeling overly positive, but it's not over until it's over. No sign of AF yet, thank goodness, but she is probably not due yet, as BT is not until Friday. I always yet a bit confused about that during IVF. I haven't had AF since September, thanks to Synarel, so not quite sure about that.

[Hollybolly]

Hi Everyone

just so busy in here, if you miss a day its too hard to catch up!

Just wanted to say - Wannababy, the ideal thickness for your lining is anything over about 12mm for transfer.
Yours sounds like its where it should be at 9mm!
If you're at all concerned, I can tell you (out of experience a few times now) that a cycle of acupunture will increase the thickness if you need it.

My first cycle was 9mm at the time I needed it to be thicker, and someone suggested I try acupuncture - have done with every cycle afterwards, and it has always been between 14 - 18mm.
(Make sure you let the therapist know that you need the lining thicker so they know what to concentrate on with the needles).

Big hello to everyone else - I would be hopeless for personals right now but will be up to date as of this post!

Hope you're having a great weekend!

ETA Just hit post and read Melsta's post - Congrats on your little mini me!!! Best wishes for keeping your little embie strong and sticky! xx

[tiggerlinda]

Melsta - Cograts on Mini me and entering the TWW
HB - Hi and good advice about the AP
Brown Bug - hoping cramps are implanting for you
BG - thanks for the BW upadte I hope you are well to

Well AF has arrived after last time and the pain from the retrograde bleed is starting to dissappear. Now the next 2 mths is to get extra fit before the lap in Feb and Money allowing cycle from there

[briggsy's girl]

some more from BW...

i get about six hours off ther drip today. Hopefully off it completely tomorrow. I'm guesswing out some time on Tuesday. Have had quite a bit more pain last night and this morning. When you consider the weight loss, it's probably my poor ovaries heading back to the right place.

and:

i feel so much calmer about the whole process now - i have every confidence that our bub is in the freezer right now... Pain has settled and i've been for a little wander. will as the doctor to let me out next time i see her, but i think she wants me off the drip for a whole day before she lets me out... And the thougts on pain can be entirely different dependion on the when the last dose of pain meds was!

She has another blood test tomorrow morning, and says she has a rather interesting set of bruises from the injections... i'm keeping my fingers crossed that she is home soon - i'm sure it's been a very long and uncomfortable week for her since her EPU last Sunday...

for me - well, i'm pretty cruisey at the moment - was really uncomfy up to and including ET day, but started the crinone that night - i'm not sure if it's the crinone, the reduced stress, or the added rest - but i'm feeling pretty ok - a little blah in the tummy, but i was kinda expecting that - the trigger shot does it to me every time! but pain wise - well, nothing substancial - a few little ovarian twinges but nothing too stressful. my fears of developing OHSS have pretty much gone over the weekend, which is great - i know if "Emmett" sticks, there is still a chance of it developing, but for right now, all is good

My DH starts a new job tomorrow - he will be working "away" permanently - 10 days on 4 off - but totally negotiable. His boss is an old friend who has been asking him to work for him for the past year, and the "ball is in our court" to dictate what he will and won't do. Boss has friends who've been through IVF, so is really understanding about what it entails - and DH is now more than doubling his income (well, he earns more in a week than we both were in a fortnight) - so there will be a lot less financial strain on us - YAY!!!