Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception Feb 2013

[Furbabies]

Hi all, thanks for your support

N2L - how are you feeling? Hope that pain has resolved?

Juniper76 could you please put me as CD3.

I'm in a good place despite the BFN, no point in dwelling on it, I've started acupuncture and TCM which I"m hopeful about. He wants me to wait 2 months until my next transfer, I think it might be a good idea so my body can recover after the stim cycle, I think that is why our little emby didn't stick because I was still uncomfortable from EPU. I only have 2 frosties so want to give them the best chance possible by making sure my body is in the best condition!

[myturn]

AF arrived for me too today.

anyway, CD1 it is....

[Furbabies]

So sorry Myturn it sux doesn't it
Hugs x

[me4ever]

Myturn - big hugs, am so sorry. Fingers crossed this coming cycle will bring you what you so deserve. xxx

[faye*]

Just had my scan, on the verge of another cancelled cycle. 22 follicles but still quite small, re-scan on Monday then most likely a blood test to check for OHSS... Just barely holding it together...

[me4ever]

Oh no Faye... Sending you big hugs! Are you trying to keep up your fluids and take loads of extra protein??? I drank lots of extra milk and special shakes. They recommended drinking at least 3 litres of fluids a day to prevent too many follicles forming. They started telling me this when I had about 10 little follicles, and ended up with about 16 follicles. Are you on metformin? I was given that 2 months or so before I started IVF, as I do seem to have quite a few follicles, with little stimulation. Fingers crossed no more follicles will form!

[juniper76]

Thursday 14th February 2013


Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
Miss B - waiting for March cycle
Blossom - taking a break until Feb/Mar
Beau30 - d&c cycle
Myturn - CD2
Emma - CD3
Furbabies - CD4
Faye* - CD9
Juniper - CD11
N2L - CD13
Ceejelz - CD14
Nic - CD16
Kerbear - CD17
Sarah4Kurt - CD26
Jo_white - CD36
Krikkit - CD46
Treenie86 - CD55


Waiting for Transfer


Hanging out in the TWW (Stalk them here....https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...ek-Wait-2013-1)
Rai - CD14 5dpo
Lyra stardust - CD25 7dpo
Kbudgie - CD25 9dpo
Me4ever - CD26 7dp5dt


Got Their BFP in February



M.I.A. - Please Update When Possible
Rosemarry006, Emerald Star, Curtysgirl

[juniper76]

Faye, I'm so sorry to hear you're at risk of being cancelled again. FX your hormone levels can be kept in check so that you can proceed.

Afm, my scan showed 4 measurable follicles - 10mm, 14mm, 18mm & 19mm. The first 3 were on the right and the 19mm on the left. I thought I spotted maybe another small one on the left, but we had a lot of trouble getting a look at the left (as usual). I even had to help by pushing a button on the u/s to take the picture while he pressed down on my abdomen to get the ovary in view. Apparently, measuring follicles on my left ovary is a 2-man job! Trigger is Saturday night (to try to let the 14mm one catch up) and then IUI on Monday. I feel like I'm throwing caution to the wind potentially triggering with 4 mature follicles (if the 10mm catches up), even though I know our chance of a BFP is only 6-7% (and odds of twins is about 0.35% and even lower for higher order multiples).

[faye*]

Oh no Faye... Sending you big hugs! Are you trying to keep up your fluids and take loads of extra protein??? I drank lots of extra milk and special shakes. They recommended drinking at least 3 litres of fluids a day to prevent too many follicles forming. They started telling me this when I had about 10 little follicles, and ended up with about 16 follicles. Are you on metformin? I was given that 2 months or so before I started IVF, as I do seem to have quite a few follicles, with little stimulation. Fingers crossed no more follicles will form!

me4ever - No I've never heard that advice before and I must admit I am hopeless when it comes to drinking enough fluids. Do you think it's too late to make a difference for this cycle? What is the metformin for?

[me4ever]

Hi Faye, I don't think it's ever too late to start your fluids! Start today! I drank special protein drinks from supermarkets. They've got different brands, just check which ones have got the most protein per 100 ml. (Don't buy the sports drinks ones...) Milk, yoghurt and other milk products are fine too! Will also make you feel a bit more comfy, as your ovaries must be getting pretty sore by now?! At least 3 litres of fluids a day. (Coffee, tea don't count...) The metformin is officially a medication for people with diabetes, but it's also used for people with PCOS or in general anyone that seems to respond with lots of follicles with IVF, even if they don't get a high dose of the stimulating meds. I don't have PCOS, but sometimes had more than 1 big follicle during ovulation tracking without medication. To get better quality follicles/eggs and less my FS started me on metformin, 3 tablets a day. Hope this helps!

[faye*]

Thanks me4ever, I appreciate the info... I'm on the water now and I'll head to the supermarket on my lunch break and stock up on some protein shakes.

You don't think too much fluids could make OHSS worse if it turns out I have it??

[me4ever]

I don't think it can make it worse. The clinic urged me to drink at least 3 litres a day. I thought I was struggling getting up to 2.7 litres, then found out the glasses I used weren't 200 ml, but 300 ml, so was drinking more than 3 litres... I kept a list of how much I drank a day to see if I made it to the right amount! Good luck! I sent you a pm!

[faye*]

Thanks

[Beau30]

Hi ladies.

Sorry I haven't been posting. I've been just trying to sort myself out in the last week. I am ok as long as I don't talk about it. Once I start talking the tears come every time. How long did it take most of you to stop being so upset after miscarriages? I am flying overseas tomorrow so I hope getting away helps my husband & me. Had a bt this morning and my hcg is still over 1000 a full week after d&c so that's not good for my body getting back to normal. My acupuncturist told me hcg needs to be below 25 before you start cycling again. My aim now is to be pregnant by my birthday in may ( not liking my chances though at this rate).

Faye - so sorry to hear you might be overstimulated again. What dosage has your clinic got you on? Are you on gonal-f? I was recommended the same advise as me4ever to drink as much fluids as possible & protein drinks. I went to the chemist & brought sustagen hospital strength. I don't have pcos but I still ended up with 19 follicles & was originally on gonal-f 150mg but was changed to 100mg after 3 days as wasn't well.

Juniper - wow 4 follicles that's great. All we need is for one to work from the iui Monday. Fx for you.

So sorry furbabies & myturn for bfns. I just wish we could all get bfps and they stick around the whole nine months. I want all of us to be happy! Life is just not fair!

[faye*]

Beau I'm on gonal f with 200 as my dosage. Last cycle was 375 and yet somehow I have more follicles than last time. I've taken me4ever's advice and am drinking heaps of fluids and protein drinks so I'm desperately hoping this can help before Mondays blood test. I don't know how I'll cope with another cancelled cycle

I wish you all the best with your trip and I hope your body gets back to normal soon

[lyra stardust]

Beau- so sorry for what you're going through. My HCG took about 5 weeks to get under 10 and that was after my second d&c (I had retained products and an infection) so it was a slow process. In all honesty I was a mess until after the end of my first period, which was 7/8 weeks after the 2nd D&C. That bleed was very difficult, as I should have been 20 weeks pregnant, but was bleeding instead, but it ws a turning point for me and I started feeling stronger emotionally after that. Time doesnt heal everything, but it helps. Hugs xxx

Faye- good luck I hope you can keep the OHSS at bay xxx

Good luck everyone else!

[juniper76]

Beau, I didn't have b/w to monitor my hcg, but I still had clearly +HPT at 1 week after the d&c. By 2 weeks the HPTs were BFN. On the emotional side, I had to tell our new FS the chromosomal results last week (when discussing our history) and I have to admit I choked up a little. I didn't cry, but it wouldn't have taken much to tip me over the edge. It has been 13 months since our d&c. I couldn't talk about it without crying until the EDD passed (6.5 months), but I am a very emotional person to begin with, so it's normal for me to take longer than average to heal emotionally. It's still very early days for you. It took me almost a month to dig myself out of the dark depression that followed my d&c. At one week post-d&c, I was having a total meltdown at work in my boss' office because someone had taken my chair while I was on sick leave and replaced it with their broken one. Not the first thing that was taken from my desk (heck, even my original desk was taken and I was shifted to a "temporary" desk, which I still occupy over a year later), but on that day it was the straw that broke the camel's back, so to speak... Funnily enough, people stopped taking my stuff after that. I think I have a reputation now...

Faye, I was told that the theory behind the protein is that it may help support cellular integrity. With severe OHSS, your cells start leaking fluids, which builds up in places the fluid doesn't belong. The protein is supposed to strengthen the cell walls and reduce the leakage. The increased water consumption is also related to the fluid build-up, but in a different way. If you are well hydrated, your body flushes fluids out of itself more effectively. If you are dehydrated, your body retains fluids. If you have excess fluid building up, you want your body flushing those fluids out as efficiently as possible, hence the need to increase your water consumption. It's important that you stick to hydrating fluids - don't drink things like tea, soft drink, etc which will dehydrate you - stick with water and/or sports drinks designed to increase hydration. Neither measure will prevent OHSS if your body is determined to go there, but each will reduce your risk (and hopefully severity) in its own way. My clinic recommends a high protein diet and 3 litres of water per day, commencing the day you start the FSH and continuing until the end of the cycle. Given your OHSS last time, I'm surprised you weren't on 150iu this time? That's a common starting dose for IVF (for PCOS or good responders). You could even have gone down to 100iu if you had wanted to be cautious. (ps. I'm on 200iu of gonal-f this cycle too! Also, I'm sorry I didn't write this out for you earlier - I didn't have time until now.)

[faye*]

Juniper thank you for that info, very helpful. I think they put me on a high dose because of low ovarian reserve I guess they hadn't expected me to respond so well the first time and then their theory was to try the antagonist cycle this time round. I have to say I'm really frustrated that the info about 3 litres fluid and high protein wasn't given to me by my FS, I would think that was important to know considering the last cycle. I guess it all comes down to my estrogen level on Monday so will keep you all updated then. Heading away camping this weekend so going to try my hardest to not think about it although every time I inject more gonal f I'm going be wondering if its just a waste of time.