Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception - July/August 09

**Daisie** · July 21st, 2009, 08:25 PM

Theresp - I'm so sorry for your loss. We are here for you if you need.

Wishes - I can sooo relate to that! DH and I got married 4 1/2 years ago (the first of both our brothers and sisters) and since then both our brothers have married and had not one but TWO children each. They know that we have been TTC since we got married and have been reasonable sensitive, but even so it doesn't help. My SIL fell pg twice by accident, blah blah blah. It is very difficult to watch loved ones go through the pregnancy, but at the end of the day... they're very lucky and it's great for them. One of my girlfriends got pg on her first try one month after stopping OCP and has a DS 3 1/2years old. She knew we wereTTC and has been really supportive and encouraging for the last 4 years. How do you think your friend would react if you told her you are TTC? Incidently another of my girlfriends who has just married last year and is nowhere near thinking about having kids had a really diffierent reaction when I told her we were starting IVF. She forgot we were on Skype and I could see her expression. She cringed and she said she was so sorry for me, not realising that I was really excited that we'd made the decision to go ahead with IVF. She felt really awkward and totally killed our conversation. Telling people is a hard decision to make cos once it's out there you can't take it back. Good luck.

Emeraldstar - I'll be thinking of you this week. Hope all four make it through.

AFM - I start Lucrin injections tomorrow for the first time and am very excited about it. DH is away, so I have to do it all by myself, no back up in case it all goes wrong. Fingers crossed.

**Emerald Star** · July 21st, 2009, 09:03 PM

Taurean78 and Daisie - Thankyou for all your well wishes.Taurean78 I am in alittle pain especially when i walk alot. I'm sure it will pass by the time ET comes around.

About friends and pregnancies, i am the only one in my large family, cousins and friends that DOES NOT have any kids......everytime they see me its like" when are you gonna have one"? and they look at me suspiciously, like having conceiving problems is a really bad disease.....not that they know that i am trying IVF and that i do have conceiving problems, but its just awful how they make you think something bad of yourself for not being able to fall pregnant at a drop of a hat...i have only told 2 of my bestest friends and my mum( god bless her ) about IVF and apart from you BB friends, thay will sit and listen to me vent for hours and be so supportive.

___________________
Me 40
right tube removed
DH 42
Good count low motility
TTC #1 for 3 years

1x natural ectopic 2007
IUI #1 18 April 2009

IUI #2 19 May 2009

IVF #1 7 July 2009

**Vira** · July 21st, 2009, 09:22 PM

Hi ladies
Hope you are all doing well.
Mitf-Hope you are okay?
Theresep-I am really sorry for you. I have been there and I know what an emotional rollercoaster it is. My thoughts are with you, take care

Wishes-I can understand what you are saying and have felt the same many a times.
Since we have been married for 8 years, by now it is common knowledge that we are TTC and it is not happening. I think friends and relatives don't have a clue how to deal with us.Many share their good news as they would with anybody else and even though I feel sad initially I recover soon and be happy for them.But it is those people who try to hide it from me that hurt me a lot.One TTC friend who used to call me everyday and share all trivial information suddenly did'nt know what to do when she got pregnant ,her phone calls became rarer and after a couple of months she called up to say that she had been pregnant for a while and did'nt know about it and came to know only that day and then cut me off until she had her baby. Atleast we have all these wonderful ladies to support us.
Emeraldstar

for saturday.
Loops12 how is it going with your injections?
All the best to all the rest of you.

**mitf** · July 21st, 2009, 11:45 PM

Hi Ladies,

Yes still here - just been a little busy and trying to get on top of everything since I returned home. Unfortunately my treatment has been delayed a week. I am a little peeved but it can't be helped.... just bad timing. We had a few family issues to sort out and had to stay a little longer which meant I missed my BT on Fri. I didn't think it would be a big deal but the clinic didn't want me to start my injections a day late when I returned. I ended up having my BT yesterday and I have down regulated. I have to continue on the synarel this week and will start injections on Friday so I am now looking at EPU on 7th August. I feel like I am sitting in the slow lane and getting no where fast!!

Theresep - sorry to hear about your mc and the delay till you can start again. I hope you are felling better soon and FX that next time will be the one that stays for keeps. x

Wishes - I fell your pain also, it is a common theme for us girls. I am used to being the only childless couple amongst our friends and family and have shed many tears at the news of others BFPs. Not that I am unhappy for them but I just really though I would be having children well before the even started TTC. To be honest I think I am happier when a BFP is achieved by one of my LTTTC buddies. I know they truly understand the longing and heartache that comes with this journey.

Emerald star - glad to hear the EPU went well and hope you are not in too much discomfort. My thoughts and prayers are with you. I really hope you are one of the really lucky 1st timers.

Loops - hope you are doing well.

Daisie - GL with the injections tomorrow. I am sure you will be fine with out DH just keep the goal in sight and think it will bring you one step closer!

Taurean - I hope you and the injections are going well.

Juniper - sorry I can't help with your question but I hope everything is ok.

Vira - thanks for thinking of me. I am so sorry to here about the difficulties you have had recently. I hope you manage to resolve things quickly and get back to where you want to be. Any news on your next steps?

Jasminstar - feeling your frustrations re synarel and working around the FS. While it is not my FS fault - me being 1 day late puts me back a week to fit in with the FS schedule.

Hi to anyone else I have missed. Hope you are keeping well with your journey.

A little

and more

for you all.

**wishes** · July 22nd, 2009, 07:42 AM

Thanks for the support girls. At least I know that I'm not the only one out there feeling like this. I completely relate to mitf when she said she feels happier for LTTTC girls getting BFP's. Again, I'm not sure if this is a normal feeling, but I just feel that those girls who get pregnant so easily cannot possibly grasp the concept of how lucky they are, simply because it happened so easily for them. And usually, it is those exact same girls where it doesn't even seem to enter their mind that it's not that easy for everyone, and they find it completely acceptable to continually ask you when you're going to have a baby. This seems to be based on the assumption that it was easy for them, so it must be easy for everyone. For us LT'ers, I feel like we appreciate it more, because like anything, if you work so hard for something, you appreciate it more when you get it.

I think one of the things that really bugs the most, is the complete cluelessness of the fertile people who have no idea what we're going through. But how could they? I think you cannot possibly know what us LTTTC'ers are going through, unless you have gone through it yourself. Sometimes I feel like screaming to everyone that yes we are TTC, but no it hasn't happened yet and yes we going through IVF, so just leave us alone and stop asking questions. I'm not sure how I'd feel about telling people what we're going through, because I don't know if I could handle the "pity" looks.

Thanks for listening girls. Sorry, no time for personals, have to get to work.

Wishes xoxo

**Taurean78** · July 22nd, 2009, 10:36 AM

Daisie - good luck with the injections. I know you'll be fine. I decided to do my own so as not to rely on DH and to prevent the nagging of "When are you coming home to do my shot?". I do it in my stomach (I always knew my fat rolls would come in use one day

). It is an exciting time because things are finally happening.

Mitf - good to see you back. I hope things went as well as they possibly could. Sorry to hear that they have put you a week back - that's so irritating when you have things planned in your head to be happening at a certain time but unfortunately is the nature of the beast. In good news, we start our FSH on the same day so will be going down the same path at the same time.

ATM - I went for the first BT this morning and to pick up Puregon & Trigger inj. Just had a call back from the nurses to say that it's all looking good and provided AF comes by Fri, I can start my FSH injections then too. Another small bit of progress

I am in my last week of school hols now so must warn that by next week my posts will cut back a bit. The support I am getting from this website is amazing and I really feel part of a community (albeit a faceless one!).

I was sitting in the clinic this morning wondering if any of the women there were LT'ers form BB.... Something to keep the mind occupied when you're waiting around

**mitf** · July 22nd, 2009, 05:57 PM

Wishes - you have articulated my thoughts perfectly (I could swear you read my mind). I don't think you have anything to worry about, these feelings are perfectly normal. We all have our good and bad weeks, and some times it's just good to have a rant!. FX that we will all achieve our BFP's soon.

Taurean - I do my own shots too, the though of DH jabbing me is not appealing. And yes those lovely rolls do come in handy! I find if I pinch it just below it doesn't hurt as much. Great news that we are doing our Puregon shots from the same day. My dose has tripled from my IUI's so I will be interested to see how differently it affects me. Do you know the date for your EPU?

**Taurean78** · July 22nd, 2009, 06:19 PM

Great news that we are doing our Puregon shots from the same day. My dose has tripled from my IUI's so I will be interested to see how differently it affects me. Do you know the date for your EPU?

No idea of date of EPU. I go in for another blood test on Monday and they'll monitor me from there. My clinic can seem a bit blase about those things because they are so busy but I feel confident with them. I am on 150 units of Puregon and am a bit worried about how I am going to handle it. But having said that, I have been absolutely fine on the Lucrin and all I have noticed is a dry mouth sensation.

I had to laugh when I read the product info for Puregon:
"Puregon contains the active ingredient, follitropin beta rch. This is produced by a Chinese hamster ovary cell line transfected with the human FSH subunit genes"

OK....WTF? Chinese hamster ovary cells?!?!

Hi to everyone and

with TTC and your cycles

**Daisie** · July 22nd, 2009, 07:08 PM

OMG Taurean78, I so wish I didn't just learn that

- what a laugh. I'm on Puregon next week... now I"ll be thinking of hamster eggs! Just kidding... I'm going to try really hard to forget it.

My first injection went really well... no problems whatsoever. I was really psyched for it and I hope they all go so well.

HOpe everyone is doing well.

**Emerald Star** · July 22nd, 2009, 10:22 PM

Vira - Thanks for the

Any news on your next steps yet?

Mitf - Glad to see you back.....sorry about the delay in your cycle. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that despite these hiccups good things are on their way!

Taurean78 - daisie - Loops12 - and mitf you guys are really close together with your cycles......i am

for lots of

in August for all of us.

AFM - Embriologist called this morning to let me know that 3 are still fertilised and 1 is really slow with its cell division......i've given up on that one and its seems we are down to 3 Grade A embies. I'm praying they are still Grade A's by Saturday......I will ask about cell division tomorrow and see where they're at....by tomorrow according to my research they should be at at least 6 - 8 cell division. Has anyone been through this and can explain it all to me.....pleeeeeese!

_________________________
Me 40
right tube removed
DH 42
Normal
TTC #1 for 3 years

1x natural ectopic 2007
IUI #1 18 April 2009

IUI #2 19 May 2009

IVF #1 7 July 2009

**Daisie** · July 23rd, 2009, 07:40 PM

Sorry Emeraldstar, I know nothing...

**Taurean78** · July 24th, 2009, 07:53 AM

I don't know about that Emeraldstar - sorry. But I will continue to

for you.

mitf -

with your injections. I'll be starting mine tonight as AF arrived yesterday morning (with a vengeance!). Trying to think positively and hoping it could be the last one I have in a while if IVF goes well. It can't hurt to hope!

Must be off - going for a drive down to Austinmer & Wollongong with my friend and her 7m.o DD. Enjoy your weekend ladies.

**Emerald Star** · July 24th, 2009, 06:14 PM

Hi Ladies,

Taurean78 and Daisie - thanx fir for the

Sorry no personals today. Just wanting update you all.....and then there were TWO!!
Two of my embies have become into Grade A Morulas and the embriologist is very happy at their progress.

The other 2 have really slowed in their division. FS says I probably won't have any to freeze.

ET is tomorrow AM and I'm starting to get excited and nervous. ( pleeeeeeeeeeeeese STICK embies!!!! )

Sending you all luck for your cycles.

_________________________
Me 40
right tube removed
DH 42
Normal
TTC #1 for 3 years

1x natural ectopic 2007
IUI #1 18 April 2009

IUI #2 19 May 2009

IVF #1 7 July 2009

**tantee** · July 24th, 2009, 06:53 PM

Emerald Star - Good luck for tomorrow. Sending you

Hope everyone else is travelling well....

**Daisie** · July 24th, 2009, 07:34 PM

Emerald Star - Best of luck for tomorrow... may the baby gods be smiling down on you! I'll be thinking of you and looking for you in the TWW.

AFM - the days are dragging by and I find myself checking the calendar all the time... I"m not sure what for... I just want it all to go faster.

Hope you are all well.

D xx

**Loops12** · July 25th, 2009, 11:02 AM

Hi Lovely ladies

Theresep - My HEARTFELT SYMPATHIES to you hun! No idea how your feeling but I do know what loss of a loved one is like as my sister died in a car crash at the age of 18 in 2004. I know its a bit different but just to let you know these things are so hard and I am thinking of you. And I will be praying for you that things go well in October.

Wishes - I can say that I know how you feel and dont feel guilty about ranting - you're certainly not alone in thinking like that. I think we will be more appreciative of our kids because of what we have been through. x

Juniper76 - Not really sure but I hope everything works out the way you want.

Emerald Star - Hope you recovered in the end from your EPU. 4 fertilising sounds ok to me as Taureen says at least it is a result.
Thanks for thinking of me and all your wishes and support. GL today, will be thinking of you x

Daisie - GL on the Lucrin - hope they work!

Vira - thanks im going well, have good follies so far after U/S yesterday and have EPU on Tuesday. Very excited. How are you going?

Mitf - great to see you back here. Im going well, thanks for thinking of me.
All the best with your injections and EPU on the 7th. It will come around soon.

Taureen - GL with your injections. I do mine myself too - prefer that than letting DH do it to me arhh.

Sorry for those I have missed and all the best for lots of BFP's soon!!

AFM - EPU on Tuesday and 5 day transfer so ET will be on Sunday 2nd August and I get to go to my families charity ball in honour of my sis, Yay. Timing has worked out well and I had descent sized follies. Is 8 on one side and 6 on the other with 9 ranging from about 10mm to 16 ok? The other 5 were a bit small I think.

**Loops12** · July 25th, 2009, 01:20 PM

Well I was just reading some posts from the other day about follicule size and perhaps mine arent so great afterall. Although I know Kurby said their results werent as good as ours and now they are pregnant. So perhaps size doesnt matter too much after the initial U/S. As long as they get a bit bigger before Tuesday I'll be happy.

**jasminstar** · July 25th, 2009, 02:19 PM

Hi Ladies, been popping in and checking up but I haven't posted for a while:

Loops12, That sounds like a pretty good result to me. I haven't got that far yet but I think 14 would be pretty great - the smaller 5 still have a few days to mature before EPU so we wont exclude them yet. But even 9 would be great and if they're already over 10mm that sounds really encouraging for full maturity by Tuesday. Hope Tuesday goes well for you - I will be having my first BT + U/S since starting puregon on Tuesday so we'll both be reporting.

Daisie, I know what you mean. I had an extra week on the syneral (down reg cycle) which meant 3 and a half weeks before starting puregon and I felt like it completely dragged. Hopefully time will fly to next week for ya and you'll be on the home stretch.

Taurean78, You're exactly one day ahead of me on the puregon - I started Thursday. My clinic sounds a bit like yours but if all goes to plan I think EPU for me should be 5th August. Hope you're doing ok on the puregon shots.

Emerald Star, Hope you ET went well this morning sending you heaps of

and best wishes.

Baby2Bee, How's the hormone treatment working? Hope you're doing well.

Vira, Any news for the next step for you? Agree with you, Mitf and Wishes on how difficult it is to revel in the joy of others sometimes.

Wishes, Totally agree with you. It seems everyone I know is pregnant or has just had a baby at the moment and it's really hard to stay positive when you're trying so hard for what seems to come so easy to them. There's a woman getting treatment in my clinic who has been there at the same time as me on my last two visits. I believe she's getting IVF but has a child already. She talks non stop about the birth of her son and the stress of it all and about him too to everyone in the waiting room. I feel like saying "Do you know what we are all here for; can't you be a little more sensitive and appropriate"

Anyway, I shouldn't rant things are going ok and the syneral double dose seems to have worked - I start the puregon, though I have to remain on double dose syneral. Cross fingers it all works.

Are you planning another try soon or are you going to break for a while?

Tantee, How are things going? Shouldn't you be getting your results any day? Sending lots of luck your way

Mitf, like Taurean I'm only one day behind you. I started on 200 puregon daily, how much are you on? I feel ok but very bloated.

AFM: Double dose of syneral finally worked and I was able to start the Puregon on Thursday. I have to stay on double dose of syneral but TBH I don't care cos I've finally moved to the next step. I am feeling like a bloated whale but otherwise not too bad so fingers crossed for good results on Tuesday (BT + U/S)

Sorry to anyone I've missed and good luck to all.

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