Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception - Nov 2007 #3

Holly sh*t BW. Thats huge....lol

Just popping in to say hi and hope your all well. Im going ok and feel like AF is coming but praying she wont.

BBL

Take care all!!

Yep, sounds like a medicated cycle to me.

With a natural FET, they do blood tests to track ovulation, and once it has occured, they pop the embryo back in at the appropriate number of days afterwards. Can be a bit of a pain as you can't control the timing, which I think is why most clinics seem to go for medicated cycles.

DH is more freaked out about giving me the injections than I ever was in doing them myself. This could be interesting!

BW

yes butterfly... that makes sense..
i wont ovulate this month bcos i m on pill as well as Lupride.. ofcourse, there will b blood tests and scan to analyse the lining and wen its apt, they will go for ET.

hmm.. anyways, good luck to all of us..

Hi Ladies

Wow BW thats a whopper!

Kell - Congrats honey on getting your 2 on board that is fantastic!! I love you positivity and think you little ones have such a good chance with their positive mumma!

Dusty - How are you holding up today? next time your talking to BOB say hi from all of us :)

Wecome wannababy!!

WEll just a quick one from me tonight! Saw FS and absolutely nothing is happening with my ovaries.. i think they are on strike and well i dont blame them. So provera for 10 days to bring on AF and the boost cycle. We changed our minds and upped the dose to 200 so hopfully that does the trick to give us more numbers next time.

Anyone have any advice on provera? What side affets should i be expecting here?

Thanks heaps... Shan

Hello everyone!

Firstly, apologies to anyone I miss - it's so crowded in here my head is spinning! But rest assured that you're all in my thoughts.

Dusty - I'm so excited for you and BOB (love that name!). Sending you lots of sticky vibes and fingers crossed for a BFP soon.

Kell - congrats on the transfer! I know it's normal to worry about the grades, but all you can do now is hope and pray and take in all the positive thoughts everyone is sending your way. Be sure to add mine to the pile!

My update: I have an appt with the FS tomorrow for BT to determine what the Synarel has done to my hormones. I guess I will get the results on Friday, and then if everything is AOK, I will be starting the injections. I'm very excited to be going tomorrow - it seems like forever between appointments! I'm sure y'all know what I mean lol.

OK, well that's it from it, it's way past my bedtime (but I doubt I will sleep because of the excitement of the appt).

Love to all,
Vicki
x

Hi all

Well still hoping this is my month but feel like af is coming. Last day for the gel thank God as Im so over that. So I guess if AF is going to come will be in about 2 or 3 days. Please stay away!!!!!

wannababy yes you said it hun. Good luck to all of us!!

Oh Shannon22 hun I hope your little overies come of strike hun and start to do what they are told. Good luck!!

Pookiegirlba good luck with you BT hun. Hope all will be good. Im sure it will.

How are the rest of you lovely ladies going.

Hope you well.

Well better go, DS is waking.

Holly - Och!
Kell - I am not sure PM to be safe :)
Missy - GL BFP is on its way
PG/ Vikki - GL with the BT
Wannababy - Welcome heres hoping you won't be here long
Shannon - Good to see there is a plan sweet

11am Visit to the FS so everything crossed and will update later

Good luck today TL :fingerscrossed:
Shannon, I'm glad you got through you appointment ok. It's really great that you know what's going on now. I hope the provera works for you, lots of best wishes for you
Missy, hang in there :)
Vicki - GL for your b/t - I hope today goes quickly for you and you get some rest tonight! Try not to be a Wide-Awake-Wally like I have been ;)
BW, that's awful! I'm sorry the injections are such an ordeal for your body. Hope it's healing ok.
Wannababy - welcome! I'm glad you made it over here. These ladies (and gent!) are so helpful and supportive :)
Slyder, how are you and DW doing atm?

Well, I can't tell if stimulation injections are going to plan or not, after two nights. I've starting light bleeding and cramping today after a small amount spotting yesterday. I'm not a happy-chappy at the moment. I'm pretty p**sed off and upset at my body for not responding to this IVF cycle like I guess it's meant to.
I've posted a thread in the non-stickies here asking for people's advice or experience with this. Can anyone help?
Sorry for the lack of detail in my personals, everyone :( Just feeling really ordinary about the whole thing atm.

I hope everyone is well and hanging in there.

Miss C

Miss C hang in there sweet I spotted on the stims in my first cycle :hugs:

Miss c im so sorry hun :hug: I really hope things get better. take care!!

Well has the FS the result BT's Lap @ the end of Feb and March cycle hopefully

Oh tigger Hope the lap answers some things for you hun. Thats a while away and hope all goes well. :hug:

Thanks TL and Missy :hug:
I rang the clinic back and was a bit more assertive (a difficulty I have sometimes!) about the situation and my concerns, and they organised to call my FS, instead of giving me no information like earlier this morning and hence making me panic. They rang me back just before after contacting my FS who says it's all ok. She thinks I am having AF (11 days after stopping the pill, mind you), but as my lining was very thin on scan on Tuesday, it shouldn't be much. She says the stims will reverse the loss in the next day or so - I should be back on track soon. It not what normally happens, but it's ok, she said. I still scan on Monday for follies. Yay :) Why won't this stupido body of mine do what it's supposed to though? :doh: Argh - *needing pulling the hair out emoticon now* Frustrating-and-scary-unknowns Rollercoaster stopping for any other passengers... :rolleyes:

BW, thank you so much for being there this morning to give me information and give me the nudge to be more assertive with my clinic :hug: You were spot on about AF and the stims stopping it.

TL, I've been thinking about since you posted back to me last - I hope you're ok and the appointment with FS was positive. Added note: TL, Good on you for getting through the appointment, sweet. I hope it's the news you wanted to hear. I certainly don't mean it as a consolation prize, but now that this is confirmed, you can hopefully relax for Christmas now that you know what is happening in the new year 100%. Hugs

Hi all ... this thread is moving quite rapidly. Thought I'd pop in while eating lunch to read up and say a quick 'hi'. dont have time to get into personals but am thinking of you all!
Looking forward to going back to clinic tomorrow for 1st BT!
Wishing u all the best :)

Afternoon my sweets ...

BG - Congrats on the green light :D Excellent to hear everything is exactly where it should be, GL for your stims tomorrow hun

Peta - I was the same on the pill and on 2 occasions rang my FS nurse in tears cause I couldnt figure out what was happening re AF always coming and going, unfortunately it is all normal and part of the process ...

Blackduckies - these FSH Fairies are in full force - I had to order catering and got the days mixed up so yesterday no lunch for the meeting, today no meeting but lunch ... :doh:

Kell - Yay that you have embies on board and that is all that matters now hun, your body is the best incubator and it will do its things to help them stick no matter the grade ... here is wishing you all the very best for your 2WW ... and yeah do you have more info on that CD ?

Dusty - how are you and BOB doing today? I think it is so sweet that you and DH are talking to him .. awwww !! I am sending many many positive vibes and thoughts to you, your DH and BOB !!! And yep I am taking very very good care of your FSH fairies ... they are ALL around me today ...

Miss C - I think that I am the Queen of Spotting I am still spotting now and on my 4th day of FSH but they have advised it is normal but I can totally relate to how you are feeling hun ... chin up though if in doubt call them and have them alleviate any fears you have, that way you will know from their point of view that everything is a ok ... Dizziness ok of sorts but am still headachy which I believe is all part of this process ... :( but hey we are trooping through albeit making work mistakes and all .... oh well ce la vie !!

Wannababy - welcome !! This group of gals (and guy) is so supportive, I wouldnt be where I am in the sanity I am without them !!

BW - OMG that bruise is massive - YOUCH !!!!!!!!!! Good luck to your DH, but I have been doing the frozen peas on the belly for the past cpl days and it makes such a difference, I dont even feel the injections now ...

Missy - praying that AF stays away for you hun .... hope you are feeling ok hun ...

Shan - good luck with it all hun, I dont have any advice on provera but I still hope you do ok ...

TL - hope that the lap goes to plan and you get the answers from it that are needed ...

I am waiting on the phone call from the FS with results of my b/t from this morning .... man they should be calling any minute :crossfingers: and then hopefully I will have a bit more information as to where from now ...

Hi to everyone else I have missed ... hope you are all doing ok ....

Melsta

Just got the phone call ... FSH dosage isnt high enought (at 100 for FSH currently) sooo I have to take another 25 tonight and then the dosage increases from tomorrow to 125 and another b/t sat morning .. I feel like the past 4 days have been for nothing and I said to the nurse so is this bad that i have hardly responded and apparently it is only early days yet ... hmmmmmm

Melsta, the first cycle is always a bit of an experiment. They have no idea whether you'll respond to a low dose or whether you'll need a higher dose. If they start too high they run the risk of OHSS, better to increase slowly than to go too high too quick and get sick. Been there, done that. Not fun!

Hang in there! It's all a matter of learning how it works for you and getting things underway from there. There's quite a lot of people who have gone in for their first blood test in their first cycle and found no response. Yes, it does freak you out (and has done to every single one of us), but it will be ok in the end.

BW

Hi Melsta. Hun I'm sorry the news is not great. From the glass is half-full perspective: you are not overstimulating, which means you are well and not in danger of getting sick. I know it means delays, but it sounds like your clinic is taking things slowly and carefully in order to look after you well in this first time for you. Are you on Puregon or Gonal-F? The four days haven't been for nothing hun, at least it's four days that have helped the clinic work out how to get closer for the right dose for you. I know that the delay is probably killing you, the side effects and the unknowns and just wanting to get on with it... but there are many people here for you to vent/chat/get more info if you need it. Hang in there sweetie. I really understand the frustrations and concerns of not knowing how your body is reacting to this first time cycle as well, at the moment. :hugs:

Hi everyone,
miss c I am glad you got some answers, when is EPU for you?
Dusty that's so cute talking to BOB you know you will get so used to calling him that it will end up his name or his nick name, if you have a girl you may have to extend it to BOBBIE?????. lol
Kell, I am glad that you go to transfer, as you know Dusty's little one was'nt "looking good" and they ended up with a lovely little Blastie.
Missy, I hope you are wrong on the AF front.
Wannababy, hi. My EPU is around the 26th and transfer a few days later, so I hope everything goes smoothly and find ourselves in the TWW together.
BW......OUCHIES!!!! Hope DH gets his head around it.
Hi BG, not long now.
Hi to everyone I have missed and good luck.

Melsta, they will get you on the right dose, they have lots of people who don't respond as hoped.
Thanks for the laugh about the meeting/lunch thing hopefully no one was too upset???

Thanks girls, it is just the thought that things arent going to my little plan and to think hey what the, but I know they started me off low as they had no idea what was going to happen, I guess I can take reassurance in that the nurse and my FS are actually both very competent people who have done this a thousand times over !!!

Thanks for the positive reinforcement .. I am normally so yep ok surging on with this but i expected to be given a time for an u/s not this he he hence why I think I was taken aback .. but onward and upward !!!

I am on Puregon, Miss C, the sexy little blue pen !!

So much for a sleep in on sat we have to be at the clinic at 7am now for a b/t then I have to be back home by 930am so I can make it to my nieces dance concert ... that i am looking forward too ...

Thanks heaps sorry for the blah and me post !!!!

blackduckies - yes well next time re lunch I think I will be re-reading things again .. it was only for our Snr Mgmt Group lol no one in particular not, but the staff, well I am in their good books today for providing free lunch lolol

ahhh the things we do !!!!

Hey all

Awwwww I dont know what is happening with me. I feel like im getting AF and then I dont. Dont want to read to much into it but BB feel alittle and I mean A little sore. Been abit sick off and on today seemed to ease when I ate. I think I might be talking myself into it. Arrggg no let it be pg PLEASEEEEEEEEEE.

Sorry no personal but hope you all well.

Take care!!

WOWIE the supportive vibes and genuine interest and concern in everyones progress and help being so generously given in this thread are blowing me away. i just have to give you all a huge big :grouphug:!!

you all are amazing people. it is a pleasure to be spending this time with you all.

BFPS all around i say!

ETA: in my spontaneous outburst above i of course mean that seeing we all sadly are in this position of needing to be in this thread it is a pleasure to spend this time with you all. hope that sounds better! just got a spurt of love and affection that i couldn't suppress out loud!

Hi everyone! Just thought I'd pop in to let you all know how the BT went today. I was surprised to get the results this afternoon (but pleasantly so!).

My hormone levels are apparently low, which is good, so the Synarel has been working, and they want me to start the Gonal F injections on Sunday night - I'm so excited!! Apparently all my FS's "ladies" start on Sundays, for some reason.

So I have my little baggies with all my goodies, ready to go on Sunday. Next BT is on the 23rd, so fingers crossed that it all goes to plan.

I can't tell you how elated I felt when I got the phone call this afternoon (well, you all probably know how I felt coz most of you have been there done that lol). I'm trying not to get my hopes up too high, as there are so many variables that could go wrong, but I really do feel one step closer to holding that longed-for baby in my arms :pray:

Dusty - good to hear it's all going to plan with BOB. I'm following your story with interest.

Missy - I reeeally hope it's a BFP - would love to hear that you are PG.

Melsta - At least you're on the right dosage now...I hope it doesn't prove to be a hiccup.

Miss_c - good on you for being assertive. I have the same problem in speaking up when I'm not happy with something and it's so upsetting coz not only are you annoyed that you're not getting the info you need, you're also upset at yourself for not having the guts to say anything! No-win situation!

OK, well that's it from me. Had a pretty sleepless night last night with the anticipation of this morning's BT, so will hopefully sleep like a log tonight lol.

See y'all tomorrow!

Vicki

LOL DW your so sweet hun.

YAY Vicki that is great news hun. Awww dont you just love the little bags....lol

Hi everyone. I haven't posted here since my first pregnancy in April last 2006. That was an ectopic and I have had two ectopic pregnancies since then (Nov 2006 and June 2007). I have found a haven at an English message board that is for ectopic pregnancy survivors; but I need the help of other Aussies at the moment. :)

I have one tube left after two surgeries, and it is blocked. I hoped to start IVF two cycles ago, but was told to my shock and dismay that I have an issue with my ovaries and follicles. My ovaries are small and my ovarian function is down and seems to be decreasing even though I am only 37.

My FSH levels for the last two menstrual cycles have been too high to start IVF. I can't even get off the starting blocks....my grief about that is for another post. What I would love is some advice on Chinese herbs. I am getting a lot of advice about the use of Chinese or Western herbs to help with hormonal inbalances. Has anyone here heard any success stories about the use if herbs in lowering FSH levels? My doctor won't start IVF unless that are around ten and they have been over twenty both times. He only wants to give it one more try so I am starting to feel a bit desperate.

Any help or advice would be great, I have found the community here very supportive in the past thanks so much for your time! :)

Hi Rae.

Im sorry I cant help but just want to say sorry and hope some one can help you. Im sure there will be some one that knows some thing. All the best hun.

Rae - sorry to hear the delays I am enjoying accupunture and some herbs but I think they take awhile

Hi Everyone
havent been posting for about a week as nothing was happening. Was waiting for AF to arrive to start up again. She arrive this morning so back into it for a FET....transfer should be around the 6th of December.

Odette: Oh sweetie......Im so sorry. It does our heads in huh....you pray it she doesnt arrive and then next time around your praying she does....when are we aver going to get of this rollercoaster ride. Try and be strong darlin....
I hope everyone else in here are doing well. Sorry will have to go back and read a weeks worth of posts so sorry if I have forgottento mention someone or something exciting that has happened.....xxxxxxxx

Rae - I dont have any info for you in terms of lowering hormone levels, but I used acupuncture in the past to assist in regulating my cycle and that worked, and my DH was taking chinese herbs to boost the # of his little army and that worked as well ... hopefully you can find some advice !! Where abouts are you hun, I always search google for case histories and did this many a time before we started IVF about acupuncture and MI, as well as hormone imbalance, hence why we tried that option ....

Oh Dusty you have the right way to express what I am sure we are all feeling .. :D How is BOB today ....

Vicki - yay you have your little goodie bag - I cleaned my out to use as my lunch cooler bag :lol: might as well make good use of it considering the expense involved I say !!! I'm with you on feeling one step closer .... good luck with it all hun !!

Missy - how are things going hun ?? I hope that this is the one for you hun ..... you are in my thoughts ....


I took my extra 25 dose of FSH last night and then this morning we had 125 + Lucrin, so apart from a MEGA headache this morning I am doing ok .... looking forward to the weekend before a very busy Mon/Tues next week ... :doh:

Off to the FS again in the morning for another b/t ... hopefully and :crossfingers: that the extra dose has been enough to boost my body in action ...

A big :hello: to everyone else and hope you are all having a great day ...

Melsta

Just a quick Hi, hope everyone is doing well. We get a night off at the Spiegeltent in Melb tonight. Dh's cousin owns it so we get to see a couple of free shows whenever he is in Melb. It's always a great night raunchy and alternative. Has anyone been? They set up in front of the Arts Centre. Will try to catch up tomorrow for personals.

Just a quickie as it's crazy here but a big welcome back to Rae.

HI everyone, its almost the weekend! And welcome back Rae ... I hope you can find some alternatives to get you started on IVF and closer to your dream! Damn those stumbling blocks! I hope you can jump past them quickly!

Well, went to clinic this morning for BT. Have been tracking my temps and noticed they were still down, so suspected I hadnt ovulated. Anyway sure enough, just rang clinic and nurse said that I hadnt O'd, but my levels indicate that I will tomorrow, so she said to BD tonight and tomorrow morning - as you never know! Anyway am hoping that there wont be any delays as Nurse told me that if I am not ready for FSH injections by 28th Nov, then they will probably have to cancel my cycle as the clinic will close over Xmas so they need to make sure that all EPUs and ETs are done before then. Fingers crossed! Be nice to fall PG naturally, but as we know the chances are very slim!
At lunch found out that my colleague got her BFP from her FET! Am so happy for her as we have been both on this TTC journey all year!! First time I have had PG news and am genuinely happy! (Outside of BB, as we are all trying extra hard to TTC!).
Anyway ... sorry for lack of personals, have been keeping up to date on all your progress and my thoughts are with you! I'll come back and post on wknd when have more time!
Mon :)

Thanks for the welcome (back)!

I am in the Northern Beaches of Sydney, but I work in the Eastern Suburbs and used to live in the Inner West as well as the East so I know Sydney pretty well and would feel pretty comfortable going any where close-ish to the city.

I guess I am just nervous about making myself ill by taking something-- which is pretty unreasonable, I know. Plus I worry that with only one more chance I want to get it right.

Have any of you here pushed your doctor into giving you another chance after s/he wanted to call it a day? I feel like if I am going to give the herbs a go, I owe it to myself to try again after taking them for a few cycles. My DH isn't keen to just keep trying because of the "emotional toll" but it is only a blood test. I think the delay in moving to plan B is worrying him, with my issues I wonder if it is likely that I will stop being able to carry a baby....

Any how enough of my orries, all the best to every one in your various stages of TTC, I hope that things progress well for you all.

Hi all

Hope you all well

Well I dont know what is happening to me. I was sure AF was coming last night as I kept waking with bad cramping. Still no AF and was abit off today from about 11.30am to about 4pm. Not sure if im making myself feel this way as I want to be pg so much. Am still getting AF pain so will just see.


Melsta my TWW is almost over. Ill be having BT on monday if AF doesnt come. I so hope im pg. Sorry about you head hun. I hope you feel real better soon and that your body is responding to the meds. good luck!!

blackduckies hope you have fun tonight hun and no ive never been.

Oh mon you never know hun you might just fall natural and yes that would be great. Happy DB'ing hun.

rae I really hope you get soom good news soon hun. Sounds like you have had a hard time. All the best. Where in west did you live hun. Im near Baulkham hills.

I'm in Manly, Missy. Yeah I have had a hard time and the past two months have been the worst really, I just always thought IVF would be the magic cure, I never thought for a moment that I might not be able to even attempt it. It was really difficult to go through the nurse's consultation having just been told there was an issue with my ovaries.

I am starting to try to think about getting my fsh levels down rather than going straight to donor eggs. I really want to give the herbs or what ever I decide to do a chance before I give up.

Hi Rae,

Re your query about Chinese herbs: a friend of mine went to a Chinese herbalist in Surry Hills named Lily Liu. She didn't go for fertility-related issues, but Lily has a very good reputation for being able to help women with fertility issues.

Lily's website is [link removed] **Sorry, didn't realise I couldn't post a website link - my apologies! Rae, if you google Lily Liu you should be able to find her website**

Good luck!

Vicki

Hi everyone,

I have missed a bit by being away a couple of days... busy busy in here! I hope everyone is doing ok.

All ok here, 5 days down and 10 to go! Had 1st Pregnyl shot on Wed night and dont feel much atm except for a little bloating and heaviness in my tummy, and the tears are welling quite easily - honestly I am such a sook :rolleyes:

Hopefully everyone has a nice weekend :)

Hi everyone

Things are starting to get a little crazy around here with the last of the wedding preparations and my ILs arriving on Thursday. I haven't had as much time to do personals in amongst everything and the IVF rollercoaster...

Missy I've been thinking of you lots and lots, hun. I'll be thinking of you lots and lots more and sending more good thoughts to you over the weekend.

Rae I've only been here at BB for a few weeks, but welcome back! I wish you lots of luck with you mission to help get your FSH levels down. You sound very determined and positive and that's a really great thing. I really hope you are able to find a treatment that can help you.

Mel1977 Hang in there, Mel! We're here for you if you need. And you're not a sook!! The hardest part is what you're going through at the moment - sook away! It's better out than in. Lots of hugs.

Mon Good luck with the BD! ;) That positive news of your friend's is exactly what you need to be able to pick yourself up and keep going - perhaps it'll end up being a good omen for you?! :pray:

Blackduckies I've been to the Spiegeltent a few times and it's a lot of fun. Such a good atmosphere inside, and especially outside it when it's a really nice warm night out. I hope you're having a great weekend!

Melsta I hope the headaches are easing for you, hun. I'm sorry to hear you're having such a rough time with the side effects. I was thinking of you this morning for your b/t and I hope it was better news for forging ahead today. I'm with you - not sure how my body is doing on stims yet and won't find out until Monday's scan. Lots of hugs.

Carla Congratulations on AF! (it's strange that, isn't it?! Waiting on AF sometimes, and then desperately not wanting it to come at the critical moment) I wish you the best of luck for a smooth and speedy FET with the best possible result at the end.

Dusty Thinking of you and hope everything's positive and strong for you :)


*I'm labelling this section as a *Vent* post writing it... sorry :redface:
Well, I'm still bleeding/AF (not sure what it is, given up trying to guess). Four days in to stim now. I'm a little bit despondent about/over the process atm - definitely recovered from my panic of a few days ago at least - trying to stay positive, but I think I've realised that it's much better for me mentally/emotionally if I just do my best stay calm and realise I can't know anything or be in control anymore. I just have to wait until my scan on Monday, see whether the stims are actually working (my guess is given I'm still bleeding, they're probably not kicking in very well, but then again they may be, and all will be well - I just have no idea). I certainly am staring to feel more bloated and heavy, but just when I think bleeding/AF/whatever it is has stopped, I start cramping again, and it's started again. I'm just looking forward to some answers/insight into what my body is doing on Monday.

Can I ask, how did people find their first every stim cycle? Is it just me, or did you feel like a guinea pig? They certainly don't prepare you for this at the clinic. Just trying to stay calm and positive for now, but once again, struggling with the range of emotions and feeling like a drama queen.

Many hugs to you all :hug:

Miss C