Mels I am with you. I am trying naturally this month, and I cannot seem to work out if I ovulated. My temp just hasn't risen, but all the other signs pointed to O, so who knows? I would normally O day 12 to 14, but it is day 20 and no sign.

KellyD - I'm sorry you're having a rough time It can be so frustrating and you feel so out of control sometimes. Hoep things look up for you soon.

Thanks Buliej for that info - they never said anything to me about it being hard on the body or not as successful, but I'm willing to take the chance anyway - as you say, having some control helps!

Good luck for you scan JBM

Bub4me = any news hun?

Hey to Possums, Kahlan, Mrs M, Kaydee, Lilmiss, Wishingbaby, Smithy - sorry if i have lost anyone.