Rols
Well i guess if we were all the same it would be a boring world!
I myself tend to cope better with the support of my family and friends....
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Rols
Well i guess if we were all the same it would be a boring world!
I myself tend to cope better with the support of my family and friends....
I'm on the laptop at the new house waiting for the removalist to arrive with my stuff so don't have a lot of time, but wanted to comment that I too was of the belief that the more I talked about IVF, the more support and understanding of it I would see, but in truth, that didn't happen. I too got tired of trying to explain it to fertile people, esp when it was taking all I had to keep my own spirit together. Now however, I am a vocal and steadfast IVF advocate, but then again I have the luxury of it now. I think IVF advocacy is not necessary best undertaken when you're going through it. If you feel strong enough, then I salute you. But it's often the ones who've been through it, come out the other side - whether with or without a child - who become IVF advocates, as they know that they have been forever changed, and will never look at the issue of fertility the same way ever again.
For me, advocacy is more about helping people not only understand the difficulties we have to endure, but to ensure that IVF is freely available, affordable and that IVFers are not discriminated against in politics, funding or by the general public. It's taking a stand against statements like 'women who do IVF are selfish career women who left baby-making too late' or 'IVF mums should be grateful to have whatever they get' (just to name two recent examples). It's about educating people to be sensitive, empathic and aware of the facts, not the hype.
That's something you do throughout your whole life, not just when you're in a cycle, so anyone who doesn't feel like being their circle of friend's spokesperson for IVF, I totally get it. Don't worry, I'm sure that in time to come, you'll have taught more than a few people to see IVF through different eyes.
Carla glad to hear you are a little better I too need the support of family and friends
We have had our scan 4 follicles that will be ready a little lower than what FS wanted however he said there are some tiny ones and we will try and grow them over the weekend and scan again Monday at 11. All going well then egg pick up will be on Wednesday! Grow my babies grow!
YAY Sushee...well said! I find I can talk/ advocate when I'm not in a cycle...recovering from mc etc...but when I'm in the middle of it...BB is the place for me :)
Tigger, Great news.....what size were they????
He didn't say what size they were and is great new I was just a little dissappointed as we have had 8 plus before however these little ones with grow and hopefully that will make 7 or 8 fingers crossed.
Tigger
Dont be sad.....just remember..its quality not quantity we are after......hang in there....its is great news
Thanks Carla that is might thought two and the Pychic said that this cycle will work so I belive it will babies are on thier way!
Maybe I should go get my cards read too...........I love your positive attitude
I enjoyed it!
Thanks for your support today I was not to postive a few hours ago Carla. Thanks sooo much :)
If you wish to read what she said the link to my blog is at the bottom of the signauture I can PM you her website if you like :)
Hi Everyone,
Just popping in to say hi & give you all the news.
IM PREGNANT.....Yeah
So many new faces here.
Im on aspirin & progesterone daily and Pregnyl twice a week until futher notice. Can you guys believe it?
Im out of the two week wait and am so excited. This one looks like a keeper. HCG levels fantastic.
DH & I wish you all the best and thank you for your support & encouragement.
For those new to this thread, all the very best for the future.
Kindest Regards & Thoughts with you always,
Yer for sure Tigger
BTW...I want to do a HPT but Im scared if it comes up BFN is that because its too soon or it really could be BFN. But then I think if it comes up BFP..then I wouldnt have to stress for the next 7 days...is it too soon....Im day 9 and BT is on 19/10/07???
Carla, it is probably still too soon, especially if you had a blast transfer.
My last cycle, I had a blastocyst transferred at 5DPO. At 9DPO I began getting *very* strong pregnancy symptoms. My blood test (first one) was at 14DPO, and the day before I still tested negative. There was a very, very, very faint positive in there around 12DPO, but DH insists it was in my imagination.
But... on that theory, any test you see that's a BFN is too early. Any test you see that is a BFP is correct (as long as you are far enough past a trigger shot).
TraceyLee- fantastic news! Congratulations!
BW
Oh wow there is so much going on in here today! I have one busy day at work and i miss out on so much!
Firstly Traceylee YAY!!! YIPPEE Congrats! Wishing you a healthy and happy pregnancy!
Tiger - Good luck keep growing those follies and definately keep up the positivity it is fantastic!
BW - Glad to hear the anxiety had subsided and you are feeling betterjust keep having faith in yourself!
Carla - HPT are a personal choice i caved and did many, discuss it with yoru DH and do whatever you want it wont affect the outcome so just make sure you do the right thing for you. :hug:
Ellie - Big hello hope everything is going well with you, and i just gave you some reputation and definately meant every word of my comment!
Rols - Good luck leading up to transfer, sorry to hear about the back, but great to hear how relaxed you and DW are about this FET so far can only be good!
I know i am missing heaps of people and im sorry! Has been a crazy day at work, and a week of big discussions with DH about this IVF business and when we go again, i want to go again straight away but i think with last cycles dramas i need a break. Oh well as DH says the swinging vote will just keep swinging until day 1 and then i have to make a proper decision. Ahhh i love AC!!
Shan
Tracey, congratulations! I'd wondered what had happened to you. FET or fresh cycle?
Rols
I definetley dont mean to be rude or disrespectful in anyway but I have noticed you details are Me 26 DW 26...m or f? Im confused. Hope you havent taken offence to this question.
Carla, Rols is our token bloke on the AC boards. He offers a great perspective on the other side of things, and I do hope he doesn't mind me answering for him!
We love you, Rols!
BW
BW...hhhmmmmm ok....i just found it rather strange hearing all that from a male.....
Can anyone tell me if I should be getting any symptoms by now.....BT 19/10/07...So I am day 9. I have the BIGGEST BOOBS in the world.....they started to get really big on my treatment and I can hardly touch them they are so sore but again have been so sore through out all my cycle. My stomach is uncomfortable and feels tight and strained on the side my egg was transferred....are any of these signs or is it just effects from the drugs.........I cant believe Im dying to vomit!!!
OH TRACEYLEE...thats wonderful....congratulations...........your journey has just begun.........bigs hugs for you and your family!!!
Nah not at all BW. Thankyou!
Carla, what did you find strange? The fact that I am male in a largely female forum, or something in particular I said?
TraceyLee - YAY!!!!!:happyforyou: :confetti: I wondered what happened to you - Am just so thrilled for you & your DH xxx
TiggerLinda - Keep the faith sweetie, and keep those follies growing over the weekend!!!
I know you can 'help' them to grow by laying absolutely flat on your back (on the floor) and a hot water bottle on your abdomen for approx 20 mins at a time.
My NP suggested this through my last IVF cycle - and I did it daily to help them grow, we had a dramatic improvement for that cycle as opposed to the others... I think whatever your mind believes, it can definately have a good impact on acheiving, so why not ;)
Big hellos to everyone else!
Me - Had a chest x ray, numerous blood vials taken, and a urine sample today as my new doctor begins on his quest to try and figure out whats happening with my legs!
Here's hoping something shows up so we can move on to fixing them!!
About a week to go until AF is due for me - I'm so bloated already you would swear she has actually arrived and getting ready to walk in the door... Sometimes I just LOVE being a woman!
Would be wonderful to think she doesn't arrive at all!!!
BB's are heavy & sore, but thats it - Have been a little cranky today - Could be PMT, could be the fact that DH hasn't had a cigarette for 3 weeks and I'm struggling on this continuous effort of "He's just snappy because of the no smoking" without just snapping back at him (!!!!) - Or it could be the fact that I'm just over having every child in my neighbourhood running in and out of the house all day every day now for the last 2 weeks!!!! (Got to love school holidays :rolleyes:).....
BW - I don't even have your excuse of meds - Imagine me if I was taking any meds as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hope everyone is doing great!!!!!
Rols
Its great to see a male actually interested in all of this instead of being down at the pub with the boys. Good for you Rols!!!!!
ummmmm...I gues I'd better throw my hat in....its been a while.
So many new faces..too many for personals.
Well we came up with enough money to do another PGD cycle and then wouldn't you know..they are all booked up. So I have been on the pill for neasrly 2 months sp that get my cycle inot synch with the labs. For those who don't know they can only do 2 PGD egg pickups each day beacuse of the specialised equipment and testing that is done so they often have to manipulate your cycle to fit you in the diary.
So I get a phone call Wednesday saying we have some dates for you....great says I..they say how much lkucrin do you have......none says I...silence on the other end.
Why says I when do you want me to start?
Today they say....ummmmm....Houston we have a problem.
So they went away and came back and said you can start tomorrow and we will courier sme out to dandenong it will be there late afternoon. Okay to me late afternoon is after 3pm.
So at 3:15 pm I called to see if it had arrived. It had but the dandenong clinic lcoses at 3:30pm and I am half an hoyr away. Hubby made the trip in under 20 minutes...don't ask how he did it. I just shut my eyes and prayed!!
Anyways I started the Lucrin last night so I guess I am back in the swing of it all so hi to all the newies and g'day to all the oldies (like me so dont take offence!! hehe) and I guess I will be a bit more regular from now on.
Mel, fantastic news about your new cycle :) So very happy for you. Wishing you all the best
Big hello to everyone else, deeply sorry for my lack of personals. I wanted to update you all on how we went today.
EPU has been changed from Wednesday to Monday now. So we had to drive 200klms home to pack and get DD packed to go to the IL's, and tomorrow we head off to Brissie. We are going to drive about three quarters of the way, and do the last couple of hours on Sunday. Trigger is Sunday morning at 1.45am, with pick up scheduled for 1.30pm Monday. I also have to call FS#2 at his house Sunday night so he can fill me in on some stuff??
Anyway, today we had a total of 14 follies all between 14-18mm, though he said the majority were around 18.
So, hopefully we will be home sometime Thursday or Friday and I will catch up with you all then. I'm going to have some serious BB withdrawals too.
Ooh,also have a question. What do you think is the best place for the Pregnyl Trigger (10,000iu) I just assumed the tummy, same as the puregon, but today the nurse/receptionist said the leg or arm or backside.
Nic
Mel, I'm so happy you've finally got a start date! I do wonder why they didn't have you set up with the lucrin and stuff before hand, just in case... sounds like they had a cancellation and managed to get you in. Either way, great news! And I'm glad you survived that trip!
Nic, will be thinking of you while you go away for EPU. I'm always mildly amused by my FS implying that we live in the middle of nowhere, but we only have a 40 minute drive to the clinic! I shall have to tell him about you so he stops hassling us! As for the pregnyl, I've had both triggers in the belly. Is it possible to call your nurse and double check? I come up in huge red welts after trigger shots, so there's no way on earth I'd be doing that in my backside! But I'm told my sort of reaction is pretty rare.
Holly, I do hope that all this extra bloating and snappishness is just from you being pregnant rather than AF being just around the corner! :crossfingers: We can certainly hope!
I'm doing reasonably ok on the increased prednisone, and even more importantly doing reasonably ok with my psychologist out of the country! She's back in December... I'm starting to catch myself falling into old habits which cause the anxiety freak outs, but the important part is that I'm catching myself, and stopping! At this point before my first transfer I was a nervous wreck! This time, I'm doing so much better! Hope the calmness helps the little one stick!
BW
Shannon, best of luck with your decision.
Holly, GL to you to with solving this body riddle! They'll have to figure it out soon.
MelBel, welcome back and hopefully things quiten down a bit now after that chaotic start.
Nic, you do such a good job keeping everything organised considering the amount of travel you have to do. I think it's safe to say we're all in awe of you!
BW, good job for catching the trigger points before they get out of hand. The earlier you get them the easier it is.
Carla, I'm not quite sure what you meant by "hhhmmmmm ok....i just found it rather strange hearing all that from a male.....". I'm sorry if me being the only male on this thread (there are other blokes in different parts of the forum) makes you uncomfortable. When I first started out here my biggest worry was that the ladies would be uncomfortable and not want me here or behave differently than they usually would. Fortunately, I have been so lucky in that each and every one of them has made me feel very welcome. I've learnt a hell of a lot and I think I've been able to be of use too. I think you'd be surprised how many fellas would be interested in this thread, and indeed many of the ladies here have their husbands/partners actively involved, even if they aren't actually members themselves.
rols, did you see carla's most recent post above? i remember the first time i saw a post of yours, i was confused and did a dbl take, not because i was worried or anything, but bse i had to switch my lazy mind from realising you were talking about a DW and not a DH ;) . you are a valued member of BB and i believe all the posts i have read from others have reflected that sentiment.
nic, what you have to do in order to do IVF blows my mind. good luk hun. i am in awe.
hi melbel, phew what a start to yr cycle! gd luck.
BW i wld love yr advice on the prednisone if you have a chance (see my previous post) :)
traceylee - a huge congrats :dance:
hugs to all
dusty
Rols.
maybe you should scroll up further and read my comment to you. Dont judge me. Now you have made me feel uncomfortable here with your comments to me in your last reply. I dont need to feel uncomfortable being here as this is support i need right now since I am the one going through IVF. My comment was based on males being interested so much in other females lives...something you dont come across to often when its a topic like this. So please, without me purposely being rude and back off! I have a right to be here just as much as you do.
Thanks Rols. I did fall into another old habit of beating up on myself for slipping up... but then I managed to stop that as well with a simple reminder that the important thing is that I'm recognising the triggers and the behaviours and managing to catch them before they turn me into a quivering wreck. I suspect that's something I'm going to be doing for a very, very long time! a habit of 15-20 years duration is not going to be broken over night.
I realise this is entirely unnecessary, but I do want to voice publicly my support for having Rols here. I think it is important to know the male perspective on assisted conception and the effects it has on them as well as us. There's been many times where Rols' explanation of how the male brain thinks has saved DH and myself from an argument or misunderstanding. It's all too easy to lose sight of the fact that even though our partners aren't the ones enduring the injections, nasal sprays, pessaries, scans, anaesthetics, blood tests, early morning starts and all the other joys this journey brings (although my DH did end up with a scan of his own and an anaesthetic of his own and more varieties of semen analysis than I thought possible!) that this has a significant impact on them as well. Rols is our reminder to remember our partners and that this impacts on their lives as well... and even though we may be the ones sitting on the computer and doing the research, it's important to make sure you pass that knowledge on to them as well. It's a joint thing, not something we do in isolation.
Carla, I don't think Rols was being rude at all. I can see why he may have misunderstood the thoughts behind your comment. Everyone is welcome here, nobody needs to justify why they are in this thread and why they need this support. Yes, it is unusual to have a male in this area, but I strongly believe he is a valuable asset to this thread, as I outlined earlier.
BW
Was so pleased to see you are back on the rollercoaster Melbel. Great to think you'll be getting another cycle this year. Wishing you and everyone else so much luck.
I wanted Rols to know that i have always enjoyed sharing the journey with him (and his DW too-i'm sure he passes our stories on, just like we do to our other halves.) Not just in the LTTTC forum but all the other's too, where your contribution is always valuable.
Jo
Oh - snap BW! we posted at the same time!
Aww..thanks for your comments girls and Rols. We are a little behind in getting ready this morning, but will get there eventually (I have DH vacuuming the car as we speak)
BW, thanks for the top re the injection. I think I will probably do it in my tummy, so I don't stress over a new location.
Anyway, I'm going to miss all you guys while I'm gone..... will catch up with you all when we get back... Must go and book some accommodation now :)
Nic
Tracey lee - Congreats and well Done
Holly - Thanks for the advice I will try that
Hello to everyone else and thanks for your support we have upped the pergon to 300 IUI so heres hoping sorry for the short post and lack of personals we have a bit on today.
Carla, my reply to you wasn't me having a go at you, I was asking for clarification as it wasn't clear (at the time) what you meant by the statement that I quoted. It seemed that me being a male made you feel uncomfortable, which I could perfectly understand if that was the case given the sorts of topics that are raised here. I then went on to have a bit of a general spiel about there being other blokes using BB, and the ways in which blokes can be involved in this kind of discussion.
I have re-read my post and can't see how any part of it was rude, nor can I see how in any way I suggested that you were less welcome here than anyone else. If that is your view then that is unfortunate. You are most welcome to share your story, and receive and offer advice just as the rest of us do. So good luck with the process, and I wish you every success for your current cycle.
Just wanted to say Yay Melbel i am so glad to see you were able to finance another PGD cycle!! Great to see you popping in again, we cycled together on my first IVF cycle in Feb i think and found you absolutely wonderful and i have everything crossed this is the one for you!
Just wanted to say welcome back to Melbel - Yay!!
Just so happy for you that you are able to do another cycle :dance:
It will be wonderful to have you back around again ;)
Carla - Rols has done a perfect job in his last post, but just wanted to assure you that he would not have meant anything detrimental in any post that he wrote:hug:
Sometimes the internet is so hard to tell what people are meaning - But I can tell you with absoulte certainty that he would not have meant that you are not welcome.
I'm sure as you get to know us all a little better you'll realise how wonderful he is - And how respected he is here in this thread... and deservedly so!
We love you Rols! ;)
Nic - Thinking of you although I know you can't read this on your everlasting car ride!!!!
Your follies are sounding wonderful - great sizes and numbers.
By the time EPU comes around you'll be soooo glad - Make sure you're taking in the water - I'll be checking up on you!!! ;)
Hi to everyone else :D
Holly
Thanks for clearing that up....just dont like being spoken to like that...the internet can be deceiving I guess.
Ladies & Gentlemen, I'd just like to remind you that if you have a dispute with something that someone has posted, please take it up either in private or with one of the thread moderators (myself, Sushee, Tiggy or Cailin). We like to keep the boards as supportive as possible & whilst I realise it was a misunderstanding, can we keep any disputes off the board as a general rule of thumb. Thanks guys :)
Still waiting !!!
Hey Everyone,
Thank you all for your Congrats & well wishes. We all praying tightly for this one.
Rols - Blasty transfer on a natural cycle (no drugs to stimulate ovulation etc). Just had bt's daily to find when I ovulated & transferred blasty 5 days after that. Then started progesterone & pregnyl & will probably stay on it for a while yet. Having a scan next Thursday as I have had an ectopic before but Prof says that as my levels are high, there's no way I have another ectopic yeaahhhh. Its just to clear my head from stress.
Nic - Im always taking Pregnyl and it's always in my tummy as per FS but leaflet says muscular. No way would I put it into the muscle ooowwww, sticking with FS info.
Have a great Sunday everyone.
TraceyLee
Just want to let people know that things didn't go well with the defrosting of our snowbubs. I feel like complete and utter crap right now.
Don't really want to talk much more than that - trying to get my head around everything. I need to wallow and be selfish and snotty for a bit before I search for the positivity again. I hope everyone can understand.
BW