you're not selfisha nd snotty BW - you're grieving and have every right to grieve hun - take care of yourself and come back in here when you're emotionally/mentally ready again - we're all here to support you
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you're not selfisha nd snotty BW - you're grieving and have every right to grieve hun - take care of yourself and come back in here when you're emotionally/mentally ready again - we're all here to support you
huge cyber hugs
Far out. That sucks. Sorry BW.
BW that is tough sorry to hear that. I wanted to hit things wehen ours didn't thaw! Do what you need to.
Hi to everyone else
BW - Don't you worry about being snotty or selfish or anything else for that matter to get through this :hugs:
Do whatever you need to do and be however you need to be to get you through - You have every right to grieve xxx
Remember we are all here with you and holding your hand through this (and lots of really big hugs)... even if you can't feel us holding you we're all here together xxx
Take all of the time you need and I pray you & your DH can give each other the strength you need.
Much much love xxx
OH BW thats horrible.....wish we knew each other we could sit together and feel this together....I started bleeding today! 5 days off my BT. Im devestated too....Its just not fair.
i hope you can find the strength to finally put a smile on your face...god knows im trying
BW that's really sad news, and I'm devastated for you. :hug:
Carla, I'm so sorry AF has arrived for you, too.
Just wanted to everyone to know I'm back, earlier than planned :), but I managed to get the internet up and running today. I still have a lot of unpacking to do, but will be around to make sure you lot behave. ;) And just for the record, I completely believe that both my DH and I went through IVF together, and endured the difficulties together, and therefore I see this thread as being a support group for anyone going through IVF, and that includes both sexes.
Just wanted to add to Sarah's previous post that if you take exception to anything within this thread, your first port of call would be to speak to one of the moderators and not to try to duke it out here. Sarah has mentioned who the mods are, but for the uninitiated, our email addresses are on page 1, post 1 of every discussion thread. Mine is sushee@bellybelly.com.au.
hi all
thanks Rols- yes all is going well with me!!!
I wish you and your wife all the best with the frozen transfer xoxox
Congrats tracey
and sorry BW xoxo
good luck all xo
i will be back to check up :pray:
welcome back sushee!! glad you're back online hun
well, i guess it's about time for me to update on where we're at - we have just come back with yet another BFN from the clomid cycle we've just been through - so we're waiting, yet again, for the next appointment with the FS and, from what i gather, from then we're moving into IVF. i'm going to assume that the Clomid has once again not done a thing for my body other than creating some really ordinary cramping, as i am not PG even on CD 33 no sign of AF (IF i o'd - and that's a very big if, i would have assumed it was on CD 14 when i got some really nasty cramping - so now 19dpo i would assume the result is accurate)
not a lot else to update here - kinda just waiting it out yet again for now...
So sorry BW & Carla.
BW - look after yourselves, this is devastating news -:hugs:
carla - i am so sorry hun :hugs:
sushee - welcome back and good luck unpacking - i hope you have lots of helpers.
BG how frustrating is probably an understatement.
just waiting on AF here so as to get started!
dusty
just a general question in regard to getting started with IVF - i have heard a lot about starting out with IVF and being required to meet with a counsellor before kicking off. is this something that most of you have been through? i'm curious as i've today discovered another BB member attends the same clinic as i do and she is due for BT to start her injections only 4 days after my next FS appt - and is being timed to have EPU for the last time they have local EPU (100k trip instead of 200k - only happens five times per year) - and if i have my appt only four days before she is due to start, am i going to miss this cycle and have to wait til next feb for next local clinic (and lose the safety net?)
starting to stress a little here... i will be calling the clinic tomorrow, but just wondering if others have been able to skip the counselling (it's not firm that we're moving to ivf - just strongly suggested by the nurse) - i have been seeing a counsellor for other things anyway, so wodering if i might get away with it... apparently the last "local" counselling sessions are this thursday...
No compulsory counselling at our clinic, BG. It's offered and available, but we've never seen him or her.
ooh - BW said the same on MSN today - maybe i'll get away with it and still get in for the november cycle!
Sushee - Soooo happy you're back...how'd the move go?
BW - So sorry hun...you know where I am if you need mexxx
BG - Sorry to hear we're things have headed for you but great that you're preparing yourself...we had one session and then informed FS we would not be seeing 'that freak' (to quote DH) again!!! Hope you have a better experience...thinking of you xxx
Carla - Sorry about AF arriving...
Rols - Hope all is going ok for you guys...sending lots of positive sticky vibes your way :)
A big HI to everyone else!
Me - Still waiting for AF...don't even know what day I'm at ...I stopped counting at CD 40...ahhhh....PMT BIG TIME...look out!@>!
BG i think it is compulsory in Victoria to do counselling but the good news is that you could book in now you dont have to wait for your FS to get off his butt. If you explain your dilemma they will get in you in before you see him.
So sorry to hear about your embies BW......We ahd that happen with our frosites too and it sucks is just an understatement. I think I just wanted to crawl in a hole and disappear for the longest time.
As for me on day 4 on lucrin but had a major oopsie today unrelated to IVF....I didnt reconnect my insulin pump properly after my shower this morning and by this afternoon my blood glucose was smiiing at me with the word HI i.e too high for the meter to read....so I feel like I have just been hit by about 6 mac trucks in succession and have been trying to avoid the spews for most of the afternoon. Fortunately after I realised the prob and connected properly etc I am now down into the low teens and having a zero carb tea!!
BG, As Mel said I am quite sure that the counselling session is compulsory in Victoria before starting. But I don't see why you couldn't book yourself in before seeing your FS. I took it upon myself to book myself into the compulsory things between appts with the FS so I didn't lose any time.
I think Vic is the only state the counselling is a must and the counsellor signs off to say you are right to start treatment.
hmmm - guessing a call to the nurse is a big priority tomorrow then! hopefully i can get into the "local" session this week
good luck with your scan today TL, may your follies be nice and plump and ripe for a pickin'!
arielle wishing you a fantastic BT result today.
xx dusty
Dusty thanks for that
Arielle best of luck for BT
Carla and BW sorry to hear
Best of luck to everyone else where they are in thier cycles I promise I will catch up soon
Scan at 8.40 today so killing time really :)
Hi Tig
Hang in there..you will be fine.........let us know how you go......good luck
Ok quick update 6 Follies today EPU Wednesday and ET Saturday. Excited now
No compulsory counseling at our clinic either. Same as Rols, it's always available, even if the cycle is successful you have access to counseling up until your first OB appointment.
Awesome news Linda :D
Tig...thats fantastic...Yeeehaah....goodluck for both..............fingers crossed!
Good Job TL good to see the pregnyl kicked in! Good luck with trigger tonight!
called the clinic this morning, and the counselling is compulsory so i have now called the coordinator and waiting for her to get back to me. Clinic nurse thinks we should be able to get something organised to slot me us in, and is sending out the registration paperwork for me today - hopefully we'll get booked in for counselling soon so that by the time we see FS on the 8th we'll be ready to go (nurse loves that i'm on a flare cycle so no need to worry about coordinating down reg!)
now, wonder if we'll be lucky enough to catch an appointment with the counsellor on thursday when they're local rather than having to travel to Melbourne....
A big hello to everyone!
BW - I am truly sorry for this devastating result. It just doesn't seem fair! You are in my thoughts hun, and I hope you're able to take some time out to heal. Be kind to yourself xo
BG - bugger! Sorry it was a BFN for you. I have every faith that IVF will do the trick for you and DH, so hang in there ok. It will happen! (I keep remembering what your gorgeous niece predicted!!).
Also, I think you're with Monash IVF right? It definitely is compulsory in Vic to have IVF counselling before starting a cycle, but I am sure they should be able to squeeze you in before November, as they certainly managed to do that for DH and I, b/w FS appts.
Carla - I'm also sorry for you hun, and thinking of you too. Wishing you much better luck next time, whenever you're ready!
Ellie & Dusty! - bring on AF, hey!
TL - yay for you and your follies! What great results! Still thinking VERY pos thoughts for you hun. I've so loved seeing your awesome attitude leading up to and during this whole cycle. You're an inspiring lady! Wishing you much luck for trigger and EPU. Looking forward to hearing some eggsellent results from you.
Melbel - hope all is going nicely for you with those injections, and that those follies are plumping up nicely.
Rols - all crossed for you and DW. Did you make a decision re: 1 or 2 at transfer?
Hope I haven't missed too many people, but for those I have, I'm sorry, and I wish you much luck and success on your journey!
As for us..........................
Just waiting!!! BT was this morning, and the clock is certainly ticking VERY slowly right now.
I still have my heart in my throat even though 5 HPT's (3 diff brands) have come back positive now. LOL!! Yes, I know, I'm a bit obsessive, but am having a lot of trouble believing it's real right now! Not sure if you all remember, but out of 9 eggs, 7 fertilised, but we only got the 1 embie, so are feeling pretty shocked and amazed right now.
Take care all!
Arielle
ok - minor tanty here!
just got the call from the local coordinator - no counselling appointment available til december, which would put us out of a pre-christmas cycle - not loving that idea - so she gave me the number for the melbourne mob - who refuse to even look at available appointments until they've received the required registration paperwork - so, we're down to 3 weeks before FS appointment, and getting no damn help in booking an appointment - and we can't do anything til we've had the damned appointment anyway. arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh!
TL, well done and GL.
Arielle, your BT will be positive. Guaranteed! It's amazing that after the initial troubles you had it really does only take one good embie.
As for compulsory counselling, I'm probably in the minority here but I can't help thinking that making it compulsory is an unnecessary burden and a waste of time. If someone isn't coping then they should definitely get help, but I know for DW and I we would've just turned up, nodded and smiled and counted down the minutes until it was over. We know that our chances of getting pg naturally are less than average, we know what IVF involves, we know we want kids so let's just bloody get on with it. Same with the compulsory marriage counselling we had to have before actually getting married.
BG, fun and games for you then. Frustrating.
Arielle, I missed your question. No, no decision has been made yet about one or two because the FS didn't do the u/s this morning and the reception staff were all coy about DW actually being able to speak to the FS (like it's asking to speak to Gandhi) because she is busy with EPUs. Fine, but I don't imagine she's doing EPUs for the next week. They referred DW to the nurses, who initially suggested if we weren't sure to speak to the FS. As far as I'm concerned if it means not signing the paperwork until transfer day and pinning the FS down there and then so be it. Twins are fine by us, but there's no point increasing the chance for no reason.
It is pretty amazing isn't it! It just goes to show that some hiccups along the way (low follie count for us), isn't necessarily indicative of a poor result, so hang in there everyone! Don't lose hope!
I agree about the compulsory IVF counselling Rols, and have to say the actual session itself (ours was a group session), was pretty useless really. I didn't come out of it feeling any more enlightened about the process, nor did it help us feel more ready. I think it was the non-compulsory information evening that did helped us feel like we were in the know.
Arielle
ARIELLE.. .im thinking positive thoughts today and cant wait to hear your news
BG.. we were the same and had to wait for councelling as it has to be done at sivf it really does stink i rekon as yes some people mite need it but not everybody so i wish you all the best hun it really does slow things down
ROLS & MRS ROLS.. i wish you all the very best with your fet.
to everyone else best of luk to you with your journeys.
oh BW.. im thinking of you to hun and im so sorry to hear your news take care
NIC..best of luk with EPU today hun
I guess we've been fairly fortunate. We found out in May that there were problems, had our FS appt the following week, further testing done in June, then the pill for DW for a cycle, nurses appt. in July for all the techy info, then the cycle started at the end of July. So from start to finish involved 2 FS appts, 1 nurses appt, and a few other tests.
i am with the two of you - to be honest, i've had counselling with a local psychologist with regard to some other pretty major things that were happening earlier this year, and found that beneficial - but being forced into pre-ivf counselling is something of a waste of time - we KNOW what we're getting into - we've had 5 attempts at IUI this year - all with stimulation - first two cancelled, two failed, and one successful (chemical pg) - we KNOW how to deal with the struggles we're going to face - so why we have to go and speak to some stranger is just beyond me - even mid cycle, if i were having issues, i'm not going to call the clinic counsellor, i'd go to the one i know already....
BUT, if this is what we HAVE to do, i'll do it to get us started (plus it will be another outing to Melbourne with DH for a day, so we can have some time out together - can't complain too much about that...)
We're also with SIVF, but no compulsory counselling. Interesting.:
hi guys well i also no that missy who goes through sivf as well does not have to have councelling at sydney but through sivf in newcastle we had to have the councelling and it was a complete waste of our time as BG has just said we no how to handle stress and it was just a pain in the but as we had to travell 400 kms for each clinic,but i think it is only a one off thing,say next time we go for our ivf we wont have to do the councelling:doh:
things we have to do but in the end it will be all worth it.
best of luk and have a great day
Bah. Just got SA results back, and looks like we will need ICSI. I guess its best ti know now, at the start of the cycle so it can be planned for, but I still feel flat, its yet another thing to overcome. I know hubby is feeling a bit depressed about it, and I have no idea what to say or do to help. Rols, don't s'pose you can help me out with ideas on this, giving the male perspective of how you might feel?
Am trying to find the positives, more eggs ought to fertilise, right? What are ICSI success rates like, or does it not really affect things in that sense?
My DH and I had councelling with IVF and the stupid woman had to look into our file when we atarted talking about which treatment we were having. She didnt even breif her self on our situation before seeing us.......we were wondering why she was asking us the wuestions she was. I myself think its a waste of time too. Im with Rols.......we want kids so lets get on with it!!!
well said carla.thats so right yes we do want these babies so let us just try and get on with it gee
Wow, I am away for a few days, and I have heaps to catch up on. I have missed a lot, so I won't try to do personals. Sorry. Just wanting to send huge hugs to BW and Carla. So sorry.
And a tentative congratulations to arielle.
Sorry that I didn't come on here earlier to give you an update about our EPU on Friday. It has been a big few days.
Well, after being told at our scan last Monday that we had 8 good size follies, and a few others that might get there, imagine my surprise when I wake up from my EPU to be told they collected 25 eggs!!! I couldn't believe it. And the best bit is, while I was pretty sore Friday, but Saturday I was fine.
Then, we anxiously waitied for our fertilisation results on Saturday, as it is our first cycle, we still had doubts about how we would go at this stage. But the news is that there were 18 fertilised! And another 3 that might possibly get there, they were going to check on them later that night.
I can't quite believe it. We are scheduled for a blastie transfer on Wednesday.
I am unsure of how many will make it to Wednesday, so we are keeping our fingers crossed tight.