Sonya Louise - I started Gonal F on 150 units on 26/6. My scan was on 3/7 (7 days later) and I had the following;
9 follies between 1.03 cm and 1.50 (averaging at 1.25) There were 6 less than 1cm and one freakishly large one at 2.36 (probably a cyst).
I ended up with very high estrogen levels and they cut my dose due to risk of OHSS.
On the 7th, had 13 follies on the right and 8 on the left. EPU 2 days later collected 12 eggs of which 7 fertilised.
I hope that helps you, although every cycle is different.
Emerald star - Congrats on your great result. Keep us posted tomorrow after your results. Here's hoping you have some little fighters on your hand! Rest up lovely.
Mitf - Yay for AF. When she is finished at your house, can you please send her around to my place, no dilly dallying.
AFM - Hi everyone, received confirmation of BFN today. Now waiting to see if they can fit me in again on next cycle before the year end..
Going to treat myself to a glass of vino tonight. I hope everyone is doing well in their cycle. Will catch up properly soon.
Hi girls...being very rude and only posting quickly with no personals except for Tantee. Massive hugs m'dear, so sorry. Enjoy your vino!
Will post properly after reading what I've missed out on today!
AFM ... crossover cycle, so started synarol - yeh - last pill tomorrow - yeh- and just had some TMI alert - twinges and brownish discharge -kindof yeh-!!
getting there, but first off for a casual meal out with DH.
mitf - hooray!!! for AF...good to see things are starting to flow forward..(pardon the punt) he he...as for housework DH is hopeless i alwas have to do do things over...the only things he does well is cook and bring home the bacon!!!
sonyalouise - Ist IVF with the gonal f i was on 187.5iui and i got 15 follies ended up with 8 eggs at EPU. 2 made it to blast..transferred both.
2nd IVF i was on Puregon 200iui at my last scan there were 8 follies by EPU we picked up 10....I would say for your first scan you are doing very well....they will keep growing right up until EPU and also when you take your trigger shot that gives them a turbo boost as well....i am sure FS knows what he's doing.
tantee - thanks for your interest and i am so sorry about your BFN....glad to hear your doing well anyways and getting ready for the next one..that's the spirit
Mitf ~ glad to hear AF finally arrived - now you can get started on the next cycle! GL!
Emeraldstar ~ 10 eggs yay! What a great result! Hope they all reach blast stage! Hope you are feeling ok after the EPU.
I am wondering if anyone has experienced any major side effects from this procedure. This will be my first time and I don't know what to expect??!!
Sonjalouise ~ sounds like your follies are coming along just nicely!!
tantee ~ sorry to hear about your BFN hope you are doing ok.
airline ~ synarel - yay - pill yay - glad to hear it's all happening. Like you I am also taking synarel. I stopped the pill on Friday and AF arrived like clockwork on Sunday. I have a US on Thursday so I am hoping AF will be long gone by then. Has anyone had a scan with AF??? Taking synarel has been ok - currently experiencing a mild headache at the moment - however not sure if its related to stress and tiredness. FX you are symptom free while taking synarel!
Nix76 ~ GL with predicting ovulation and your FET goes well!
Juniper and Persephone ~ Congrats on the BFP ! Hoping you both have a healthy and happy 9 months! Bring on more BFP's for October! Emeraldstar - I like your idea of the October Wall of Fame! Count me in!
Goodvibes, Edie & Jillie to BB! Hoping this forum provides you with all the information and support you need during your IVF journey - it has for me!
Hello to everyone else - hope you are all cycling well!
AFM -I have my down regulation scan on Thursday - yay! Then it's onto puregin. My nurse has set my dosage to 100? A few of you questioned that this seems really low. Does the FS usually set the dosage or the nurse? I am so new to this process and I feel like I am asking such basic questions like I should know this already !!
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I just wrote the longest post ever after being offline for several days, and my computer froze and lost it all!!!!!!!!!
Will retype again a bit later after i've had my injection - but wanted to ask sonyalouise if you were wearing a black top and jeans today at MIVF? A nurse called Deb called out for a Sonya at 10am whilst I was there and I was wondering if that was you???
Off to inject now. I don't like this one (Orgalutran) as it gives me an instant headache. Will be back to finish my epic post
Mitf- Oops I must have been writing my post while you were posting. Glad to hear your AF arrived
Tantee- I am so sorry about your result enjoy your wine and I hope they fit you in for a transfer before the end of the year. Thanks for the info about your follies, wow you responded very well. It is interesting that they did the first scan after 7 days and not five.
Emerald Star- Thank you also for the information about your follies and on how they grow. It has put my mind at ease. Although it seems both you and Tantee responded well to a dose which is much lower than mine. It was nice to know that you got more eggs than your last scan indicated.
Meltcc- I know this may be tmi but I had a little of AF (more like brown mucus) at my down reg scan. The nurse told me that it didn't matter if I still had AF at the the scan, and I should have it anyway. Good luck, sounds like your cycle is working perfectly so far. Your low dose will just because they don't want to overstimulate. I am only such a high dose because I did an iui and didn't respond well. I was on 100 and barely had one follie respond. FS usually sets the dose.
Hi Calin - thanks for the reminder about being positive. I've been guilty in the last couple of weeks of feeling very sad and sorry for myself, but I too will resolve to see the positive side of things!
mitf - so glad that AF has finally arrived and you can finally get a start on things
Nix - how did your scan go today?
Emerald Star - 10 eggs Here's hoping you get some fabulous embies out of them. Interesting that your clinic calls you with daily updates, that must be reassuring. Hope you're taking it easy and resting up.
sonyalouise - I would think 8 is a good result. I'm only on my second cycle, but FS has increased my dosage after each of my first scans. Unfortunately he did say it was unlikely any more follicles would develop between the first and second scans, but you should definitely see lots of growth. Of course, they all say slightly different things so you never know...
tantee - i'm so sorry to hear about your BFN I hope you savour that glass of wine (or two) and are feeling okay about getting up and starting again tomorrow, or when you're ready. Do you have an idea of what you might do?
airline - glad it's the last pill tomorrow for you! Hope you and DH had a lovely dinner out
mel - i've only had one EPU (i'm assuming that's the procedure you're talking about?) and it was fine. FS even told me that during my EPU they nicked a blood vessel and they had to control the bleeding (and that's very rare apparently!!) but I certainly felt fine afterwards. I had some cramps (just like period cramps) but that was about it. And my FS usually sets my dosages, but i'm on a different protocol to you so not sure how it works with anything other than an antagonist sorry.
goodvibes! Hope you find lots of info and support here - I know I have.
coral - thanks for the well wishes. I've just negotiated with work reduced hours starting this week, which i'm sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo excited about. I'll have time in the mornings for the gym, or a walk, or just making lunch properly!
motherhood here i come - like everyone else here I just melted when I read about what your DH had organised for your anniversary. And immediately ran to tell my DH so he can prepare for ours in November...!
jilly - i'm on folate but that's the only supplement I take (other than B12 for a deficiency). My FS said not to bother with anything else, though I know most GPs will recommend others also.
Now i'm sure i've missed people and I do apologise After my epic post that I lost I can't remember what I was on about. But I do hope you're all doing well. I certainly do like the idea of an October wall of fame and will keep my fingers crossed we're all there.
AFM - had my first scan and BT of this cycle this morning. Bit disappointed - I only had 6 follies. FS has increased my Gonal-F again, i'm now on 450, started Orgalutran tonight and will have my second scan on Thursday. I'm just desperately hoping we don't go down the same path as our first cycle. FS did say that if we only had a few embies then we would transfer two this time...
Sonyalouise - Thanks to you and the other ladies for your suggestions/help. I checked with my nurse and she said the timing for my US was fine - good thing I didn't have to rebook, because I had to book my "follicle-checking" USs today (the ones before EPU) and couldn't get in locally. I'll have to drive 150km return every 2 days to get them done Emeraldstar - 10 eggs sounds like good odds to me! Tantee - very sorry to hear about the BFN. I really hope you can give it another shot soon. Do you have more FEs waiting? Melttc - sounds like I'm just a few weeks behind you in our first cycles. I just started the pill a few days ago. Don't worry about asking dumb questions - mine will always be dumber than yours! Lise - I'm glad if my post brightened your day a bit. I think I might start writing down the stuff that makes me feel positive so I can refer back to it when I (inevitably) start feeling down again Good luck with your next few scans.
Goodnight!
Sad to say it wasn't my turn for a miracle. Or should that be another miracle, since finally being pg after trying for so long seems like one to begin with? My hCG level went down today and I was told to expect AF in 1-2 weeks. So we're back to the plan of getting some additional testing done and aiming for IVF#4 just before the end of the year.
And since there'll be nothing happening in the meantime, I'll probably go back to lurking...
Sonyalouise, thanks for sharing that comment from your FS - it's a lovely thought.
My goodness you ladies have been busy - so much to catch up on...
Tantee - sorry about the BFN. It never gets any easier. I hope they can fit you in for another cycle before end of year.
Emerald & mitf - thanks for the explanation on the beta testing - it was similar to what i thought but it makes more sense now.
Emerald - that is a great EPU result - hope you get most of them to blastie. It is good your clinic gives you so much info - I didn't really find out much more than cell size when I had my 3 fert. Rest up and look after yourself in these few days before and after ET.
Sonya - I've been having US's (Friday last week and Monday this week) and doing pee tests but no sign of O yet - I'm booked in for another scan Friday this week as there was no change in my scan on Monday. I just get worried we are going to miss it.
Re your scan - without knowing intimate details I would think that is pretty good, for a start having 8 follies is what i had and the sizes sound good for a first scan. I can't remember my sizes but some grew to 22 and then EPU was 2 days later. I am sure they will tell you what is honestly good and sounds like your are coping OK for them to up the dose. From my 8 follies they collected 5 eggs and 3 fert. However on scans that we see now - they see left over folies from last time so I think there were some that mayeb had eggs that were not mature enough - who knows.
melttc - not a basic questiona at all - I had gonal f not puregin and I don't know your details well enough but if first cycle I think they like to start slow. My nurse was the one telling me abotu my dose and when to increase etc - however she had a ph call with my FS each time after seeing a scan and then let me know later in the day.
Lise - that was a long post - I think i would have just given up if I lost that to cyber space - so annoying when that happens! My scan showed nothing really had changed and so we are still tryign to predict O date. Next scan Friday.
Don;t be too down on your folies - if it is first scan then some more may come and there may be some they can not see. An increase dose should see some good change I am sure. Interesting your FS says they will transfer 2 this time if you don't have many. DP and I are having quite a bit of discussion around transferring our 2 bubsicles next time.
A big hi to everyone else.
Also ladies - I have posted about TCM and accupuncture on a different thread (thought it would be better there as it is very much just that topic). If anyone has had experience with IVF and TCM and you feel like asissting with some advice please have a read - http://forums.bellybelly.com.au/foru...13#post1989413
Im back from my holiday in at the Melbourne Show where I was showing cattle. It was a good break but I got the flu about half way through it and still feel horrid now. I had to have the day off work yestie. I just feel nothing is going my way lately and DH hasnt even been looking after me - sorry to be a downer but Im miserable right now.
Ive had a quick skim through and tried to catch up on everything - but there are so many in here, it is hard to really do personals.
Hi and welcome to the newbies - this is a great thread, everyone in here is so wonderful. Goodluck with getting your miracle!
A HUGE CONGRATS TO Seph!! May you have a H&H pregnancy.
And congratulations also to Taureen.
Juniper - So sorry your little miracle couldnt stick around - wasnt meant to be but the next little one will be. Hang in there and all the best.
Emerald - Well done on the 10 eggs - that is a great result and all the best for the transfer!
I'll have to try and catch up with where everyone is some other time because im at work and there are just too many in here.
melttc - good to see you are moving on in your cycle. The FS usually sets the dose and the nurses just follow through..i am sure after your next scan they will upp your dosage if you are not responding well...so don't worry. GL
Juniper76 - so sorry!! Your miracle will come, hon.
Loops12 - welcome back...hope you rested well and took your mind off all this. Sorry about the FLU babe..but rest up, look after yourself and if you need a hug the best ones are from furbabies...go get a cuddle!!
OK ! Now Mitf, tantee, coral73, melttc, sonyalouise, lise, calin, Nix76, loops12 and anyone i've missed here is my update....AT EPU 10 EGGS...today 5 fertilised 2x A grade, 3x ungraded due to very poor cell division. They will however keep the 3 going to see if they can get anywhere with them...
I was also told that i am now doing 2 day transfer tomorrow at lunch to transfer the 2 good ones...not really happy about that as i have read and been told that there are higher chances of success with blasties...However it's not over till that fat lady sings...but secretely i think i should prepare myself for IVF #3.
hey girls
Emerald star- thats great news, thats twice as many as I had
Loops- ((hugs)) to you hun
Juniper- Im so sorry sweetie ((hugs)) to you as well
SonyaLouise- I dont understand whats going on with your doctor, but all sounds like its on track. I think I would be happy enough with those results. When I had my scans last month, the first doc told me I had x amount of follie and the second told me I had less
Hopefully the second one is more clear for you
Mitf- Yay at AF arriving so you can move on now
Airline- awesome for you, its always good to feel like you are doing something
Tantee-Im sorry ((hugs))it never gets easier to accdept does it? Hopefully this will be the last BFN you ever have to see
Lise-sorry for your dissapointment, keep hopeful tho, it only takes one little eggy after all. Can I ask what the orgalutran is and what it does in conjunction with GonalF?
Sorry if Ive missed anyone
AFM- Im off to FS tomorrow to find out when cycle #2 begins
Just a quick one to help out and pass on my experience to Melttc.
Melttc - With my first cycle (Im about to commence No2) when I did commence my Puregon injections, I was only started on 175IUs. This eventually towards the end was upped to 350IUs. Why I believe they start us low is as some of the others have mentioned is to guage how our bodies react. Who knows you may get an absolutely fantastic response to that dose. In my situation, we had to cancel cycle 1 because I only had 2 follies (were doing PDG (Hope you understand what PGD is if not just ask) and so realistically we need more than 2) however with my US that were conducted along the way (in the end were every second day) they would use these to see how I reacted to the up in the dosage and that they were getting the response they needed to. I know its easier said than done but try and not worry about the dose level (I was worried a little too and no matter what people said, the low dose rate was always on my mind but then had the opposite issue when it was upped quite incredibly towards the end). As important and as developed and incredible as IVF is I now know and understand that it really is still regardless of what we all think a learning curve for the FS with every new woman that walks through their door.
AFM - Still on the pill till the 08/10/09 when I will start my Lucrin injections. After that i cease the pill on the 10/10/09 and then first BT on the 15/10/09 with the hopes of starting FSH injections on the 17/10/09. Who knows what my dose will be but it seems as if this time is just crawling along ever so slowly. Hurry up time!!!!
Tracy - i know your'e qustion wasn't directed to me, however thought i would reply anyway...the Orgalutran is to stop you from ovulating until they are ready to collect your eggs, then they will give you a trigger shot (ovidrel in my case) to start ovulation and then you are ready for EPU..hope i made it clear for you.
I think it depends on which clinic you go to as to what the school of thought is best i.e. 2 day transfer v's blastie.
I asked about blastie's at Melb IVF as they do a lot of 2 day transfer's there whereas Monash in Melb do blastie's.
The nurse I spoke to said that some thought is that it is better to get an emby back where it should be as soon as possible whereas an argument for blastie is that it makes the emby as strong as it can be before putting it back in. She also said some places are good at freez & thaw and some are not as good. So I think it just depends what clinic as to what is best.
I think as much research as they have done we are all further research for them and every case is probably slightly different to the last. I think it is all still a bit of a mystery as to why some make it and why some don't regardless of what stage they were at. I do recall her saying that they very often just do not know why they don't make it. I think at the end of the day the emby and your body have to be ready to take it all on and when they are and the stars align then magic happens.
Juniper - I am so sorry to hear that your little miracle wasn't meant to be. On the upside I guess you got one step closer and it shows that the acupuncture and herbs are helping your body understand what you are hoping it will do. All the best for your Stim in December. Hopefully all your planning and patience will pay off then and you will get a Christmas miracle.
Tantee - again I am so sorry to hear about your BFN. I hope you enjoyed your wine and AF comes quickly. GL as your plan for your next stim later this year.
EmeraldStar - try to stay positive hun.... You never know maybe twins! It is pretty common for about 50% of eggs collected not to fertilise, divide or degenerate. We had 10 eggs on my first IVF and by day 5 only 4 survived (1 transferred & 3 in the freeze). GL with the 3 stragglers and FX that the other 2 manage to get you UTD.....they are A grade after all! Also, I din't have Orgalutran - is that instead of Synarel?
Lise - I hope you are enjoying your reduced hours. Having extra time to yourself and to go to the gym must be a treat! 6 follies is a good start but FX that you get lots of new little ones spring up before Thursday.
Melttc - I had some minor period like cramping after egg pick, otherwise no side effects and bounced back very quickly. My FS sets the dosage for of my drugs and the nurses just provide support and advice. I wouldn't think the nurse would have prescribing rites to set dosage.... while your dose sounds a little low your FS is probably being careful to avoid OHSS and will probably increase it if needed after your first scan. I only had 145 iui Puregon on my first IVF and got 10 eggs. Other ladies end up on much higher doses and only get a couple of eggs... you never know everyone reacts differently.
SonjaLouise - 8 follies at day 5 sounds excellent to me. You may grow a few more but it is likely the dose increase is will make sure those currently under 10 make it over the line. I had done a couple of IUI's and my clinic was pretty sure how my body would react so I only had one scan 11 days after beginning puregon and I had 12 follicles ranging from about 11mm ? 15mm which resulted in 10 eggs and then 7 embies.
Nix - it's amazing how different our clinics can be. Mine pinpoints O via the hormones in my BT's, first one next week on day 10 of my cycle.
Loops - welcome back. Glad to hear you had a great time but shame about the flu. I hope you are feeling better soon.
Tracy - GL with the FS tomorrow. I hope you have more luck with cycle #2.
mitf xo
Last edited by mitf; September 29th, 2009 at 02:33 PM.
Nix76 - thanks for the info....i hear where you are coming from...i guess i'm old school and like to stick with what i know...don't like change much ad it just threw me as i was expecting to go to blast. I was just googling 2 day transfer success stories, as you do, ...got some inspiration and hope so lets see.....
Mitf - thanks for your support as well hon, as for Syneral..i have no idea..but if its for the control of the ovulation then yes its the same..
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Now waiting to see if they can fit me in again on next cycle before the year end..
Will catch up properly soon.
What a great result! Hope they all reach blast stage! Hope you are feeling ok after the EPU.
hope you are doing ok.
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enjoy your wine and I hope they fit you in for a transfer before the end of the year. Thanks for the info about your follies, wow you responded very well. It is interesting that they did the first scan after 7 days and not five.
Here's hoping you get some fabulous embies out of them. Interesting that your clinic calls you with daily updates, that must be reassuring. Hope you're taking it easy and resting up.
After my epic post that I lost I can't remember what I was on about. But I do hope you're all doing well. I certainly do like the idea of an October wall of fame and will keep my fingers crossed we're all there.
Good luck with your next few scans.
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