Thanks Nix... trying to focus on the fact that it's Friday and can rest and relax for the weekend - yay . Just had a moment last night and got scared about having to possibly face yet another 'disappointment' with this cycle. I know it is all part and parcel of IVF and that we still have along way to go until ET... but as you know, we just go through so much in this process. This truly is a trying time in our lives and surely there must be a lesson in it somewhere (at least I like to think so anyway!)?
Nix ?It is wonderful that you have such an understanding boss who can relate to what you are going through. DH and I work for ourselves so I am lucky in regards to planning work around IVF. Good luck for ET next week.
Loops ? Hope you have a great time at the muster and can let your hair down a bit.
Emerald Star ?The poem was wonderful. I have also found some beautiful stories online but keep forgetting to download them for inspiration when I am feeling a bit down about the whole process.
Sending you the stickiest of sticky, sticky vibes. A bit of R & R is in order I think!
Coral ? Aunty Flo called in yesterday. I?m sure she will outstay her welcome at some time over the long weekend so I will send her round to your place..quick smart. Not sure if they cancel the scans (however one of my scans last cycle, I started to bleed a tiny bit and they went on to do another 3 scans that day, so did not seem too concerned over a bit) Enjoy your tennis game tonight.
airline ? Glad to hear AF arrived. Hope the old bird doesn?t give you too much grief. I too feel like I?m wishing my life away. It is all so consuming and I hate the not knowing if this is ever going to work. I believe that you can cope with anything in life, good or bad, as long as you know what you?re dealing with but this whole process takes you into he great unknown. Enjoy your visitors. A good spring clean makes you feel good (and it?s something you have complete control over) You will have a doubly well-deserved rest after EPU & ET at the end of the month
lise ? Hope your headaches have eased. Nice Follies! (not a compliment you hear every day!) Sounds like they are coming along well. Best of luck for next week?s EPU
sonyalouise ? I took it (really) easy on my last FET. Although I have heard an embie after ET described as like a seed in a jam sandwich that can?t actually go anywhere?? I think I did a little too much after my fresh ET and took it easier on the FET and felt that I had given it it?s best shot then. I suppose when it comes down to it, it?s whatever you are comfortable with
Motherhood here I come ?Good luck with your Lucrin. Each little jab gets you one step closer to your goal!
Nix, Sonya & Lise ? what a classic! I can just imagine the three of you all in a crowded waiting room, with massive big bright flowers tucked behind your ears (would go nicely with a hospital gown!), searching the room for kindered spirits. He! He!
Juniper ? hope you are travelling OK.
Calin ? Good luck for your first cycle.
Tracy ? how did you go with FS the other day?
AFM ? Well AF started yesterday. I called the Nurse who said that they can?t fit me in this round and that I have to go on the pill for a month and call back NEXT CD1. Stupid me! They had suggested at FET that I could book in for another Stim cycle that day but I didn?t want to jinx it.. and now I have to wait another whole month ? doing absolutely nothing about it!!! I am bit annoyed with myself but am hoping that it is an omen and that?s just how it is meant to be. So next cycle won?t start until the first week of Nov and I am estimating that EPU, if all goes well will be early/mid Dec. (Which will make for an interesting 2WW in the lead up to Christmas!)
Tantee - I can't beleive they can't fit you in - what cycle are you trying to do. I think I would just die if they told me that and I had already worked out what I wanted to do. However - things happen for a reason so look at it as a good rest for your body and a chance to get it into optimal shape. Hmm - I would still be upset tho :-(
Thanks Nix - I am trying not to think about it too much, but yes I am really disappointed as I had set myself up mentally to go again on a full fresh stim cycle. Will try to use the time wisely though and get a grip on things again. DH is going to try and make some lifestyle changes too, so that could be a good thing.
I noticed a sign up at the clinic in regard to the uni doing studies on accupuncture for IVF that had been endorsed by another FS at the clinic, so may look further into that. Might also call to ask them to put me on a wait list if anyone happens to cancel in the next couple of weeks or so as I didn't start the synarel until CD18 last time. (Not sure of the regularity of anyone ever cancelling a cycle by choice/circumstance) but I suppose it's worth putting my name down.
FS nurse apologised and emphasised that I was pre-booked for Nov.
Hmm- I would def be putting your name on a wait list. That is a shame they have had to put you off. Make sure they work out the dates of when you start and when an estimated EPU and ET would be, as they may close over Xmas?? I know MIVF does.
In relation to the uni & acupuncture - there was a thread saying something about that but it was only in Sydney (good for you). But I can't seem to find it now. The only thing I can see is about half way down the page on the link provided below on the third box with the thead name "Trying to get pregnant & want to try acupuncture for free? " - but I can't get into it? http://forums.bellybelly.com.au/forums/long-term-ttc/
Mods - has this been moved or something? It says I can not access it?
Nix76 - I noticed you and lise talk about Ov surge..dont understand what that's all about..
Lise - Good luck on you EPU on monday, you won't be far behind me in the 2WW!!
Airline - hopefully AF will be here soon enough...and i have to say, you have done well in keeping yourself busy and also planning ahead for the 2WW!!
sonyalouise - I found that after the EPU, I feel abit sore and groggy so glad to have taken the day off. For ET i usually take just the day off, although if you have a sit down / low stress job, you can go back to work as the procedure is relatively quick and easy. They weren't painful for me, but I have read other ladies have found it uncomfortable...just do what you would be most comfortable with no regrets later...
Motherhood here i come - I hope this cycle brings you lots and lots of eggs..GL hon!
Coral73 - I also hope that AF hurries up, doesn't she realise we are on a schedule and she is putting us off!!!!!! Enjoy your tennis match as you don't know when you will be able to play agin hopefully in 9 months!!
Tantee - Sorry to hear you missed an extra cycle and have to wait the month...bothing worse...but you never know it may happen naturally in between cycles...that would be fab!! I usually book my next cycle when i get my last BT and U/S before EPU..not that i don't have faith, but i wanna make sure i've got all bases covered...
Loops12, Mitf, Juniper76, and anyone i mught have forgotten
Hey girls
just a panick post. DH at work tonight,so i was entertaining DH's dad and totally forgot to sniff my synarel till 3 hours after i'm supposed to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
has anyone done this?? did their fs advise if it'd cause a problem. I've still not had AF fully unpack her cases...just hand out a few gifts, and gonal f injections don't start for days. I guess my BT on day one of AF will advise if I'm down regulated properly, but I'm a bit jittery about it. I feel ridiculous cos this is soooooooooooooooo important to me, how could I forget!
Paid my $8900 bill today for a stim. cycle to blasty with ICSI. ANZ reward points on the rise again!
I hope everyone enjoys their weekend, and there's a lot of this and not much this xx
Nix, Coral, Airline, Tantee, Emerald and Lise- Thanks for the advice about time off work. I have decided to take the day off after the epu just in case. I am a primary teacher and dealing with kids all day can be difficult when you are not 100%. EPU will be Thurs or Frid and I won?t have to worry about the ET as it is on Sat or Sun.
My boss is very understanding and is happy to give me time off work when I need it. It is me who worries about how it will impact my class. It is very disruptive to take anytime off during the day then return to work later. Everyone notices when you not there even for an hour, so sometimes fielding the questions can be difficult. At least I won't have to explain why I am taking the first three days off when school holidays have just finished.
Motherhood- I agree totally with the wishing your life away comment. I thought once the FSH injections started it would go very quickly but it hasn?t. Sometimes I wish we could fast forward the tough parts. Although, I guess it is the tough times that make the good times so good!
Nix- I am not sure how the FET works. Are you having a frozen one transferred? What happens to the follicles that you have growing? Are they monitoring the follicles to help work out when you are going to ovulate?
It is rare, but when a person has natural fraternal twins it is when they have had two follicles grow and two eggs are released.
Tantee- Shame about not starting your cycle yet. Make sure you enjoy the break. Interesting how you need to book it that early, I will ask my FS about booking in another one if this ET doesn?t work. I don?t think they would be able to fit in another before the end of the year though. I know what you mean about jinxing it. I don?t really want to think about what we are going to do if this one doesn?t work.
Airline- I am sorry I don?t know if I can really help you but I would say that if AF has only just started then you are in the part of the cycle when all hormones at an all time low anyway, so it is not likely that you will begin the growth and ovulation process yet. Do you have a nurse that you can call on the weekend?
AFM- Not the best news I am afraid. Went in for my scan yesterday and was told if we had egg pick up on Monday or Tuesday then the most we could hope for are three eggs So my dosage was increased to 450 in the hope some of the other follies will catch up Egg pick up is now scheduled for Thursday or Friday and ET is scheduled for Sat or Sun. They will let me know Tuesday which one it is. So no flowers in the hair for me.
I have 4 follies that are between 15mm-19mm and 5 that are between 10mm-13mm. I was a bit flat yesterday, I was hoping it would be finished by Thursday next week, and now I am not very confident that I will even get any embryos. I have seen too many statistics about number of eggs fertilised and number of eggs that make it transfer stage. I don?t like my chances really. I have lowered my expectations considerably and am just hoping that there will be a transfer. When I started the FS was expecting that we would also get 4-5 to freeze.
Hello to all the ladies I have missed, I hope you are enjoying the weekend.
Have had the words busiest week at work and haven't had much time to check BB. A bit behind in things but I will try and catch up with a few personals.
Airline - I took my synarel about three hours late once. It had no effect on my cycle and my clinic told me not to stress about it as long as I was getting a sniff in twice a day and roughly 12 hours apart the occasional slip up didn't matter. Don't feel ridiculous either - it's great that you managed to take your mind off the whole TTC thing for a change.
SonyaLouise - sorry to hear that your cycle is going quiet to plan. I hope you are feeling more positive today.... it may be taking a bit longer but the upped FSH should help the other follies catch up and hopefully you will still get at least a couple to freeze.
EmeraldStar - the poem was lovely hun. Sorry to hear that you didn't get any frosties again but glad to hear your ET went well. Best of luck in your TWW. I hope that it isn't too painful and you manage to keep busy.
Loops - I hope you are feeling better and have had a fabulous time at the Ute muster. DH always wanted to go to that..... Although our ute went to ute heaven so can't anymore.
Lise - all the best for your EPU on Monday.
Nix - I hope you find that surge soon and can progress with ET.
Tantee - Sorry to hear that you have to have a month off. That sucks. I hope you manage to enjoy the break though.
Coral - I hope AF arrives for you soon. Nothing worse than waiting for her to finally show her face!
Melttc, Tracy, Juniper, Calin, MotherhoodHIC & anyone I have missed - I hope you are well and enjoying the weekend, particularly those that have the PH Monday!
airline, I did that once! Actually, it was on a really bad weekend where first I did a morning dose an hour late and then the next day I did my night-time dose 3 hours late. Like you, I was in an absolute tizz over it! But my FS said it didn't matter and my suppression check went just fine! Just kick back and enjoy the rest of your weekend!
Hi to everyone else! I'm indulging in sushi and wine (et al) this weekend, then back on the diet next week... My acupuncturist has me on so many supplements now that I think I'm going to end up getting confused and getting them wrong before the week's out...
airline - love your way with words! I often feel that AF has the old numchucks out but would never have put it quite so! And yes, I always feel like i'm wishing my life away. I always seem to be thinking about the next stage in my life rather than enjoying where i'm up to. A friend of mine told me about a great book about how to avoid trying to do this, I can't quite remember what it is but will find out and let you know. I definitely need to read it myself.
Motherhood here i come - only a few days to go till injections! I know exactly what you mean, it's kind crazy to look forward to injecting yourself, but it's that one step closer.
coral - i'm SOOOOOO with you on the feeling emotional. And just like when AF is in town, I know it's just the hormones, but it's hard to take. Glad your DH is good to you and hope you're feeling better soon.
Nix - I haven't done a natural cycle so not sure about your follies. Hope you find the answers you're after soon, and that the surge happens ASAP! And will let you know details for Wednesday when I find out!
tantee - so sorry to hear you have to wait out a cycle I know how frustrated I was at having to wait for AF to arrive after our cancelled cycle, so I can only imagine how you're feeling. I hope you are able to use the time to do what you want, and that DH is able to get a start on those lifestyle changes.
emerald star - made me laugh that you're counting days down till both BT AND POAS!!
sonyalouise - i'm sorry you won't be there with flowers in your hair. your follies grow nice and big with the increased dosage and that this journey is getting closer to the end for you.
mitf - thanks for the wishes! I bought a stack of books today so when i'm home next week I can rest on the couch
juniper - glad you're enjoying the sushi and wine! DH went out for drinks last night and I SOOO wanted to go too. Instead I comforted myself with a shopping spree!
AFM - I've given myself the trigger drug (yay, last injection!) and am now settled on the couch watching DVDs with DH.
Hello to everyone else and hope you're all enjoying Saturday night.
lise xx
sonya...don't fret petal...I was extended for 2 days and 4 days on my first 2 cycles to allow the follies to mature and grow to a more respectable size. This time they've built that into my cycle.
mitf - how're you doing?? you didn't do an 'asfm' bit. hope all is ok.
juniper..thanks for your thoughts, and enjoy your sushi and wine!!
lise... congrats on the trigger injection...it's such a feeling of expectation now isn't it!!??
I try and appreciate the moment, and in actual fact, I think I do alright, but in my dark times...there's no reasoning with me. I'm sad..and that's that. Right now I'm ALL GOOD!!
slightly hungover today, but all good
AFM- DING DONG.....girls, Aunt Flo's here. Now hopefully she's in less of a bad mood than last time when she hung around far to long and threw her weight around a bit....and let me tell you, there was a bit of weight to throw around!
Hi all,
Just a quick one today (i've been trying to take a break from all that is fertility related, but couldn't resist a quick check up on everyone)...
Nix76: I have been a double ovulator in the past and my FS said pretty much the same thing, its not common, but its not un-common or something....on a natural cycle i had a follie on each ovary. I remember when i had the scan i was thinking, 'um you've found the follie, why are you poking around the other ovary?
Later on with my new FS i also was having just a timed cycle to fill in a gap until i could do IVF and on that scan i had 3 follies....so i'm what you would call a double ovulator i think, i don't know if they both mature and release at the same time or not though?
Did you hear about the lady (probably in America) that was pregnant with two babies and they had different EDD's - like 2 weeks apart?
Hey girls
Sorry no personals today, Ive just read this page will go abck and read the ones before.....I have meant to keep up, but been just so busy this past week, looooong hours at work, very few days off. Back tonight infact.
Got last night off and managed dinner out with dh which was really nice.
OK down to the business of what you all want to know lol, saw FS on wednesday and started back on Synarel yesterday (ugh I hadnt forgotten how horrid it is either). AF seems to be thinking of coming already, hope she doesnt turn up too early I dont know if it will make a diff if I havnt been on synarel long enough?
Thanks girls for your response to my stuff up with the synarel. I'm pretty calm about it, but I have to say....AF is behaving very strangely. As I've mentioned previously, she showed up showering me with a few 'old' gifts...then on Saturday at 11.15am after a trip to the loo... I happily announced to DH that she'd handed over the 'fresh' gifts..(warning tmi - bright pink, good amount) and rushed to BT clinic before they closed at 11.30. But she is being sooooo shy this time. DH says to remember it's a withdrawl bleed and not a real period, but it's a pretty pathetic display. I hope the results are ok when I phone, and they don't tell me I need yet another BT ..... or worse that it's an indication of something wrong...or...or...or...
ok going away to breathe...
Just spoken to the nurse,and 'sigh of relief'.. BT perfect she said, so synarel doing its job to down regulate, and as long as i've had a reasonable amount of AF (normal for less due to pill) they're happy for me to start injecting....tomorrow whoo hoooooooo
Any we're off again.......have a good day everyone, check in later.
Emerald - not sure if anyone esle answered it - but in regards to surge - it is only something I have learnt about this last cycle. So - just before you ovulate you 'surge' - i think it is a hormone surge that goes sky high and then comes down again when you actually ovulate. So the surge happens a day before you ovulate. They get you to pee on this test (not a stick but very similar to PG test) each morning and can be evening too and if you get the double lines you are surging - the day before ovulation. I am told it is only a 12 hour window of surging so it can be missed. I was only told to pee on test in mornings as most people surge in the morning, but towards end of the week I was doing morning & night tests cos I didn't want to risk missing it. Hope that helps. Hope youare keeping sane in your 2WW.
Airline - I am sure 3 hours is not too bad - but I woudl have just called FS as soon as you can to be sure. I think that is the only good thing about this whole expensive process - lots of FF points from the credit card spend!!! Hope you are doing OK.
Sonya - yeah doing an FET - frozen embryon transfer. We have 2 in the freeze and so we have actually asked for both to be put back. They have been monitoring my follies to try and estimate ovulation - but that as well as pee on test thing - that is what told us when i was ovulating. i think you can also monitor your temp - tho I have not been doing that. Altho my TCM Dr has been taking my temp and asked me if I had ben monitoring it. I now understand about the 2 follicles and how it canhapen. I spoke to another MIVF nurse on Saturday and i think whilst it is not really common it is not a big deal and not un-common - same as what you said.
Also - I know that would be dis-appointing to hear those results but maybe with the up of the inject your others will catch up and you will get more eggs. I had about 8 follies (that they could see) and they collected 5 eggs, 3 fert and that was my first cycle. We have the 2 in the freeze and asking for those 2 to be put back this week. I hope they at least still do your transfer - which sounds like they will - and if they only get 'x' amount - just focus your energies on that and hopefully it will be all you need anyhow :-)
Lise - Well done on trigger - its all happening now for you! GL with EPU.
Mummawannabe - thanks for your notes that is quite interesting - I never knew you coudl get 3! WOW! That must be intense feeling - I have noted this weekend that its almost like when i was stimming and I can feel my ovaries workign overtime it feels like. Didn't hear about that lady - and that is weird, I still don't get how that could happen!
AFM - Got the pos result for Ovulation test on Sat morning and again on Sat arvo, so ovulation took place on Sunday. Called MIVf and am in for FET on Tuesday. Called them again this morning to ask for 2 to be put back (as we have 2 frozen) after lots of discussion between DP & I and consulting my mothers thoughts. My FS is away tho and so now I am waiting a call from his fill in to see what he has to say. When I asked about it on Saturday the nurse said due to my age (33) and that we had only done 1 cycle and my FS being away another FS would be reluctant to transfer 2. But it is what we want to do so we shall see how we go. Our reasons are that we want to increase our chances as much as we can, and also financial as you all know it is so expensive going cycle after cycle (and we've only been round once). Also if both don't stick then we have time to get another cycle in (we hope). But we shall see what happens and will keep you updated.
. Just had a moment last night and got scared about having to possibly face yet another 'disappointment' with this cycle. I know it is all part and parcel of IVF and that we still have along way to go until ET... but as you know, we just go through so much in this process. This truly is a trying time in our lives and surely there must be a lesson in it somewhere (at least I like to think so anyway!)?
and not much this
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So my dosage was increased to 450 in the hope some of the other follies will catch up
Egg pick up is now scheduled for Thursday or Friday and ET is scheduled for Sat or Sun. They will let me know Tuesday which one it is. So no flowers in the hair for me.
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