LT Trying to Conceive with IUI #4

My naturopath wants me to BBT. I have PCOS, no cycle at all without meds (well, not between going off the pill and commencing a trigger cycle then clomid). If I ovulate, I have a cycle but there was nothing for months.

So, as far as special instructions, the naturopath did say it was retrospective, but it gives them a whole lot of information. It will tell them what our bodies are doing naturally, are we ovulating, when in the cycle we're ovulating, how long is the follicular and luteal phase of the cycle. So I would say go see a naturopath to help with BBT charting to get you started.

And I would also say I feel good because I finally ovulated without drugs this month (with the aid of herbs though) so feeling very positive about naturopaths.

Perhaps FSs aren't positive about BBT charting because their job is to mess with our cycles and trigger all sorts of things, so for them it's not a relevant tool. Those that work with a natural cycle will be far more interested.

Good luck for scans, IVF etc this week girls. When are you due for your test Bella? I don't know if I can wait until next week to POAS, so if AF isn't here by Sat I think I'll go for it then. If no luck I promise to wait for Christmas.

Hi everyone,

I think i'm starting to go crazy!!!!!

Alot of my symptoms have gone although still feel crampy now and then BB still sore if i touch them - god i don't know.

So when to test........ My last pregnyl shot was Sunday (1500iu). Was told by FS nurse to poas Mon 22nd (they are closed so no BT) i have access to doing a BT anytime i want ast work so what does everyone think - i would love to POAS sat or sun which is CD 29/30 (i had IUI CD14)

what does everyone think.........

Hi to everyone sorry about the selfish post will BBL for personals..

xxBella

Hi Bella!

What's POAS? I'm so not down with all the acronyms people use on here and I've never found a glossary to explain them.

I think you should go to your GP or the local medical centre for a blood test. Home pregnancy tests are not reliable in the slightest. Make sure you ask the doctor to test progesterone as well as beta hCG. Not sure if they normally do that or whether it's just FS clinics that do the double test.

And of course, keep an eye out for AF.

My fingers are crossed for you darlin'! Good luck and lets us know how you go.

:-)
OP.

Hi OP poas is - pee on a stick!!!! HPT!!!!

I agree - i'm just so egar to know!!!

When is your scan? Fri? Good luck - how are you feeling? I don't feel pregnant (not that i would know what that feels like!!) and i was getting very annoyed by DH last night and this am which is my usual PMS :doh:.

hAVE A GREAT DAY EVERYONE.

xxBella

Yes. Pee on a stick. Got it! Ha ha ha! :-)

I'd skip that. I did that the Saturday 5 days prior to AF due, and it was negative. Go see your GP on the Monday. Bloods are the only way!

AFM - scan and bloods tomorrow. We are praying for the jelly bean to be in the right place. Things changed a bit yesterday - headaches, tiredness, and severe runs. I went home at 3.00pm and went to bed. So we shall see. Fingers crossed I don't lose my right tube. That would suck.

:-)
OP.

Hi Girls

WOW !! Getting on BB is like TTC - hard work !!! The whole site is either down, or dh told me not to use the net last night b/c of some virus in china that can access my passwords !!! Then my internet at work has been down for the last three days - what's a girl to do !!!!

How's everyone going - Diamond ?? How'd your FS appointment go ? Are you joining me on the ivf trail if ala natural does not work ?

OP - Lol at poas - - Go to the main page, click into forum help, and scroll down, the third thread is Common Forum Jargan - its really helpfull, I still have to refer there from time to time - tommorow big day for you, I will be thinking of you and hope you see a perfect image on your ultrasound, what an exciting time for you

Bella - if it were me I couldnt help myself, I always poas, but its your choice hun, take one day at a time and see how long you can last -

WBM & Shades - hope your well girls ...

AFM: Just plodding along, relaxing really re ttc, getting organised for xmas, waiting for our fertile time, taking my temp, taking my tablets ... I would have to say having xmas functions and we are having christmas lunch here this year, so getting organised for that is keeping my mind occupied. I felt a little depressed walking through kmart today, wishing away ...

WLAB - Christmas is certainly a very difficult time for LTTTC. While it's different for us this year, we are still confronted with interminable worry. We are holidaying on an island where there's no doctor and the only way off is on a helicopter. GOD I hope I am NOT taking a helicopter ride these holidays.

We've done the bloods this morning. I note with disappointment they had taken our file out of the "pregnant" drawer and put it back into the "treatment"drawer. :-( Shows what they really think of what's happening with us.

UPDATE:
Bloods have come back with 20,346 beta hCG. Prog is 31. This isn't an issue because:

Ultrasound has shown pregnancy sack in right place!!!! Little jellybean inside with heart beating!!!! Fetal age is 6wks so I've reset my ticker. They're a bit confused about that because of the IUI date. There's every chance this baby is biologically my husband's, cause we started BDing the week before. But that would have to mean two eggs were released... that would be a bit freaky.

Scan also showed some uterine fibroids. I asked if they might be problematic, but they are at the bottom so they won't get in the way and they may resolve themselves later anyway. They could be the explaination for the whacko periods I've been having. I'll talk to you gyno about it when I see him next year.

So that is the news. DH and I have breathed a massive sigh of relief.
:-)
OP.

Quick from me... back from holiday, when AF was late I gave in to impulse and tested, got a faint BFP on Mon, got all excited, told a couple of people, AF arrived just over 24hrs later, I cried, had to un-tell people, and now I can't try again til Feb cause my doctor's away. :(

Shades I'm so sorry. I know how hard a BFN can be. And your med team being on hiatus over Xmas when your body is not makes it even worse.

:-(
OP.

OP - I just logged on to see your happy news - Im happy for you and glad you can take a breather .. and enjoy christmas, it is a wonderful sight seeing your bubba's heatbeat .. WOW an island that you need a helipcopter to get to, its not near Port Douglas is it ? We were shown that island in Oct, $11,000 a NIGHT !!! and you need a heli to get to it ..

Oh Shades : Hugs for you, what a high and low week to have on a holiday - have you made sure your right for implantation, had all the tests etc ?

WLAB - Not sure what tests I would need? I have a 'normal' LP of 14 days, ultrasounds haven't detected any abnormalities in uterine shape or lining... As far as I'm aware, it would have had to be able to implant for me to get a + test at all right? I sort of came to the conclusion that it must have been a genetic issue with the embryo. My FS is away until Feb anyway so no more trying for now.

Oh, reading through all the messages I was like "yay! fantastic!" then my heart broke for you Shades. OP - what fantastic news, seeing a heart beat must have just made you smile/cry/laugh/all that stuff! Told you your bloods were fine!

Shades, what a disappointment for you. Very sad. It could have been a lot of things but at any rate, very sad.
bella - what did you decide? to poas or not to poas? I will be poas tomorrow morning (AF due today and it's not here yet and no symptoms of it). No symptoms of pregnancy either, but live in hope, that's what I say!
WLAB - how are you finding the BBT?

Anyway, I'll let you know what the stick says at some stage tomorrow - I'm having my Christmas party so might not be online but if it's a BFP I'll be wanting to tell someone! I'm shocking at keeping my own secrets... If it's a BFN I might try to get in to see my doctor this week and do a BT if AF doesn't come.

Hi Everyone,

OP- Wow!!! :dance::dance: congrats i'm soooo excited for you. Take care and i hope this has taken a huge weight off your shoulders. xx

Shades - :kissing: oh hun i'm so sorry for you. Take care of yourself and remember it's ok to cry and feel free to pm me if you feel like a chat. xx

WBM- good luck tom i have my fingers and toes crossed :pray::pray:

WLAB- how are you.xxx

AFM - well i had the worst pain yest arvo it was like a wind pain or constipation pain (sorry tmi) i was doubled over took some panadol and went to sleep then it went away??????????? Anyway i don't feel very hopeful for tom but will wait and see. I just feel fat! I did HPT this am i know i'm an idiot but anyway it was BFN then i looked at it again about an hour latter and there was the faintest i mean faintest second line ever. Anyway i will know tom so pray for me girls!!!!!!!!

will update tom.

xxBella

Hi Guys,

OP - congrats on your results. That is fantastic news, you must have breathed a sigh of relief.

WLAB - thanks for thinking of me. Went to my FS appt on tues,and yes, starting an IVF cycle on Day 21, which is Dec 27th, so just trying to find the money for it. Went to my natropath appt also who found a zinc deficiency. I was quite surprised, I eat well, take a multi vitamin, simply didnt think I would be missing anything.

Shades - honey, I am so sorry. Sounds like a chemical pregnancy. I experienced this on my first IUI cycle. But there is some sort of comfort to be found in the fact that you know that fertilisation and implantation can happen. I hope you are doing ok.

Bella - good luck!! I hope this cycle will bring you success and a great xmas pressie.

I am off work now on going on holidays so will be offline. Also, i will be straight into an IVF cycle so not sure if i will be much help to you IUI girls. But I will still lurk on you all and follow your journeys. Good luck to each of you and merry christmas to you all and your families. Thank you for all your support.

Diamond and Bella, thank you.

Diamond - you're right about it being a small relief to know that conception and implantation can at least occur... I've been looking at some stats and I've seen in a few places they reckon 50 - 60 % of first pregnancies are chemical only (it's weird - like the body needs a 'practice run' before it gets it right)... and it doesn't increase the likelihood of having one again.

Bella - best of luck - hope that second line was a real one!

Good morning all!

Well got my BT results levels were 6.8? I'm not feeling very hopeful but the range stated: 2.9-25 is equivicol in early pregnancy suggest re-test in 2 days to see if doubled?

I'm feeling very worried but trying to stay positive from what i have found on the net and in BB the level should really be at min above 20 but did find that under 5 is a definate negative so fingers crossed and :pray: hard

xxBella

Hi Bella,

Sweet Im not sure what to say. I do believe it is correct that the result must be over 25-30 to be considered a pos. But that being said, nothing is set in stone yet and your levels could very well go up from here. Hence the second test in 2 days time.Did you get a prog result as well? I know it is easier said than done, but try to relax and busy yourself with something else to fill in the time.

Thinking and praying for you....

:crossfingers: and :goodluck: for you Bella