LT-TTC 2 years + non motile sperm cells!!

[Mildez]

So here is a link to buying it online.

The more expensive bottle has the larger quantity in it.

Ok sorry I didn't realise you could not add a link of that sort on here.

[Mildez]

I agree with Lenny re seeing the Dr again.
50% motile is still ok to achieve pregnancy to my knowledge if the abnormal forms are not a high percentage and the count is ok. My husbands was 21% normal forms so 79% abnormal and 45% motility (30% moving forward quickly, 15% forward slow the rest not moving (dead or staying in the one spot) I think the menevite helps more with the motility then the count itself but I am not 100% sure. Some of the other girls and theire DH might know more.
Although I think the menevite (or something similar) is a good start and will most likely improve your sperm quality it is not guaranteed success (if only it was I'd be very happy right now) .
There is a site I also use baby and bump. I am not sure if its a UK site or not but there seems to be alot of people on it from the UK. Maybe if you ask a question on it they will be able to tell you a product local to you that is the same or similar to what menevite is.

[woody2]

sorry been away few days, the modem crashed!!!! any way thanks for all your help - i will try and visit that site

[Coral73]

Hi woody2,

I just saw your post and thought that I might be able to help... My husband and I are in a similar situation (I was checked out by a Fertility Specialist and was ok) wheras my husband came back with a low count (2million) with poor morphology and motility (motility was at 50% with our worst reading at 45%).

We have recently undergone IVF and have had success with our 3rd egg transfer. On our 1st stimulated cycle we did not particularly have good results, however things picked up considerably on our second stimulated cycle due to some major lifestyle changes for both my husband and myself.

On this second cycle, my husband's motility went up from 50% to 75% which I believe gave us our success (along with a bit of luck of course!).

Here is what my husband did:

Had a menevite a day
Stopped drinking any caffeine related drinks
No alcohol (this was the hardest!)
Stopped eating refined sugars (no cakes, pies etc - plus checked food labels for sugar content as you would be surprised at the amount of sugar in some so called 'healthy products')
No take out like McDonalds and KFC
Drank more water
Drank a glass of orange juice a day
More fruit and vege
Ate a handful of pumpkin seeds a day (very good for sperm)
Went to acupuncture once a week


Hope this helps in some way!

[~BecD~]

Hi woody - just to clarify - 50% motility is actually pretty normal, not low at all. The official cut off is 60% but most clinics consider anything above 40% to be fine - so I wouldn't stress at all over it. If you are interested in doing something, zinc is the key ingredient so I would head to a chemist for more advice.

[lizlolly]

Hi Coral73
thanks for your post - my husband and i are in the same boat as what you were - i am fine but hubby has some strong backward swimming sperm! I however am about to start next month our 3rd cycle as the last 2 failed. we had a daughter through IVF and it happened first pop so i was fairly gutted when i had these failed cycles. I am going to take on what your hubby did and tell my hubby he needs to follow this and see how we go. The one thing i have not worked out is the sperm counts etc are exactly the same as nearly 4years ago when we started IVF for the first time and that worked - maybe becuase i have got older, my eggs are not as good?
anyway thanks for the post and to Woody - hope all goes well with you and you find some answers here to help you.

[Coral73]

Hi lizlolly,

No worries .

Try not to worry too much about it taking longer this time round.... my FS explained that in our category (ICSI with me being ok) that we just have to wait for the right fertilized egg to come along. The nurses also advised that they see allot of couples get it 1st go 1st time round and then it takes a few the next so all sounding normal for you and I think your little eggies will still be good to go!

I really do think the change in our lifestyle had allot to do with our success on the third transfer. It was actually our 2nd stim cycle and we got a much better result than our 1st stim. With the 1st stim, we got 19 eggs, fertilized 12, however by day 5 we had 1 blast to transfer and 2 for the freezer. The 1st transfer did not work so we had a FET, where 1 egg did not survive the de-freeze and the other was transferred with a BFN result.

On the second stim with the lifestyle changes, we got 27 eggs, fertilised 14, and by day 5 transferred 2 x Blasts and froze 5 eggs. My FS explained that from day 1-4ish the egg does all the fertilization work and from day 4ish the sperm takes over. We lost the majority of our eggs on the 1st stim from approx. day 3-4-5 and yet on the 2nd stim we must have had stronger/ better quality sperm as 7 made it to blast (2 transferred and 5 frozen).

Another things was that I knew we were doing everything we possibly could to make this one a success and I think that it really helped to take the pressure off both of us and our attitude became what will be will be (although I still went crazy during the 2WW as you do, he, he!)

Sorry for the mammoth post!

Good Luck and I will be 'ing that your next transfer is the one... Sending you lots and lots of : !