LT TTC after Miscarriage or Loss #10

Saffy – I’m so sorry you’ve been feeling depressed. Thinking of you :hug: A few weeks off to focus on you will hopefully put you in a really good place for your next cycle.

I was feeling the same way around Christmas. I kind of feel that we have the right to get really down sometimes. I try not to fight it – but the last time it really dragged on. I know many of you have been TTC longer than me – do you find anything helps to pull yourself out of a slump or do you just have to wait it out?

Sunbeam – Yes, your period sounds very bemusing! Hopefully the FS has some answers. Also, that's fantastic about the weight loss. :leap: I’ve been too scared to weigh myself since July!

Tasha – Can you imagine how many sticks we must have peed on in total? Hopefully this ebay order will be your last.

AFM – I had my IUI this arvo (Thurs) – it went so much more smoothly than the first one and my partner had an impressive sperm count this time. I'll be spending the next 2wks trying to maintain the right balance of cautious optimism! Joeve and Minnie –If you two would like to lead the way with the BFPs, I’ll gladly follow!

Good luck Mich and others in tww :dance:

hi girls,

saffy: :hug: hun it is such tough going & this time of year doesn't help im sure

sunbeam: hopefully you will get some answers from your fs

tasha: :hug: to you also

mich: good news the transfer went smoothly, hope there is good news at the end

joeve: how is the 2ww going ?


i am glad this year is nearly at an end & i know others here feel the same, i won't tell you all that next year will be our year (although i hope it is !) because by the very nature of this being the long term ttc thread we have thought that in previous years so im going to give everyone a big :grouphug: and will quietly keep my fingers crossed there are better times ahead for us all

Hi,
Just popping in to say Happy New Year (nearly) to you all :wiggle:
You're right Minnie, who knows what 2012 will bring. If only we had a crystal ball - would save a lot of stress!
Whatever 2012 brings, I feel really grateful that I've found this forum of amazing, strong women to share it with :) Ugh, getting teary!
:goodluck:Good luck to everyone for 2012.

Hi Lovelies,

I know the odds are we will not all have sticky BFPs by this time next year but the odds are also that some of us will and that is enough to put a smile on my face, that even if I'm not one of them, that some of the loveliest, strongest and, in my opinion, most deserving women will have the joy they have been waiting so long for. I couldn't have got this far without you all.

So Bring on 2012 and bring on the BFPs
Happy New Year XXX

Happy New Year everyone! :birthday2:
Lets hope 2012 brings us what we want :)

Sunbeam you are right, we have had some miracle bfp's in here this year & we r a small group (8 in here right ?) so we should get a good percentage of those 8 people getting their bfp in 2012 :-)

Happy new year girls. I decided to indulge in a few drinks last night I realized I put my life on hold for this ttc and it's not great. Anyway I didn't get drunk or anything I just relaxed! Hope you all had a nice night x

Happy New Years Girls :birthday2: hope everyone had a great night!

Soooo glad I have you lovelies to share the ups and downs with, heres to many bfps and sticky bubs in 2012 :cheer::bluecheer:

Joeve- I would have gotton drunk but I have to work today, so just got tipsy although feeling a bit seedy today, I'm out of form these days, glad you had a relaxing time.

Hi Girls,

Saffy - When are you going away to the beach. You must be sooo ready for a rest you have worked heaps.

Joeve, Minnie, Mich, Tasha (?) how are all our TWWers going?

I'm glad everyone managed to have a few drinkies for New Years.

AFM - Well here it is, 2012, my last year of TTC. There is some weird relief in knowing that by this time next year, if not sooner, I will no longer be living my life in 2 week blocks! I've fairly much decided to try this cycle just because there is really nothing to lose, unless FS has a different plan, but I have no intention of stopping the exercise or diet (or the drinking I will do when I go to visit my bestie on the 21st Jan).

On a sad note I lost my little fish today. I know he's only a goldfish but I'd had him for 5 1/2 years (his tank mate is 8!) and I will miss him.

Sunbeam-If this is your last year then I wish you all the sticky vibes I can :) And Oh no to your poor little fish, love the words 'tank mate' :lol:

Is everyone else in TWW? I think so, good luck girls! FX

AFM: Still waiting to ovulate. CD20 today, last cycle I ovulated on CD30 so I'm hoping it will happen by then. This will be the first cycle since the HyCoSy so with any luck it made a nice clear path for DH swimmers :)

Hi!
I'm so glad you guys had some drinks on New Years too! I used to almost withdraw from life during the tww but since this ttc business has turned out to be a long term project - it's just too much life to miss out on!!

Sunbeam - I'm so sorry about your fishy. His tank mate will miss him too :( Do you think knowing this is the last year you'll put yourself through this will make it easier or harder? I really really hope it happens and will be cheering you on like crazy this month!!
Tasha - I hope you ovulate soon, waiting sux!
Minnie and Joeve - how are you surviving the tww? What day are you guys on?
Saffy - Are you still planning on taking a break in Jan?
AFM - tww is uneventful :asleep: But i'm only 4 dpo. Just trying not wish my holidays away wanting the tww to be over (not really succeeding!!) :doh:

Just a question - how many dpo do you all start to POAS? With my 2 previous pregnancies (miscarriages) I got faint positives at 8 dpo... but I know better than to start that early, and it would send me broke!!

Sunbeam on no poor little fish :(

Hi everyone, happy 2012!

Sunbeam- I would love to say its my last year of ttc too, the thought of me being in this situation next year is too much to bear- uurrgghh. Hope we both get what we want. No, I don't have time off yet!! I'm having 4 days off @ the end of the week, will give you a bell then if you're free. I had new years eve day at the beach though and went for a great swim. Sorry about your fish, gosh you must look after them well, we used to have a very high turn over in our tank. I forgot to tell you my last AF was only normal for 1-2 days then spotting for a few days so maybe i am geting shorter AFs too.

Mich- there is no way i would poas at 8 dpo!!!! I try to hold out until 12 ish DPO but I can understand why people test early. I would just hate to get a bfn and be shattered, if it was a false one. I'm having a break from ttc a bit as I am on the pill for 3 wks until my next cycle begins, no break from work though- no rest for the wicked unfortunately. Long term TTCers need alcohol in their lives if they are going to remain sane through this journey lol! Hope you had a great time!

tasha- yeah, I hope for you that the clearing out of tubes was worth all the pain and that the path is clear for a bfp!!

Joeve =where are you at in your tww?? You must be nearly there?

minniemouse- hi hun how are things? Whas happening with you?

afm- nothing happening with me really, on the pill so can't even try naturally, what a shame it just WOULD have been my month too :ROFL:

hi girls,

tasha: i hope you ovulate soon, have you started the bding just in case ?

joeve: when will you test ? any symptoms ?

sunbeam: sorry to hear about your fish :hug: you certainly did well to get him to such a good age ! sounds like a plan to try as things are (unless fs can suggest anything else) this cycle, its hard not to try when you regularly ovulate. im with you though this will be last year i ttc

saffy: yes going on the pill seems so the wrong way to go with ttc, fingers crossed doing something different helps you. did you get my PM (was last week or maybe the week before)

mich: fingers crossed for your 2ww, i usually try to hold out until at least 10dpo before testing or even 12 dpo

afm: this 2ww is doing my head in, i don't know what is going on, i think it was 2 cycles ago that is was a complete breeze and this one is more than making up for it, seems to be going sssooo sssllooww *sigh*

Saffy stupid pill how weird to have to take it! I will be on that path soon :)
Tasha hope the swimmers like their new clear path!
Mini I feel the same way this tww has been the longest one ever!!
Cd 26 today did Internet cheapies just because they are here bfn of course. I have no symptoms no illusions no hope. Bring on AF!!!

joeve: tsk tsk you might be cycle day 26 but aren't you only 9dpo ? you can't give up yet :hug:

:( sorry ok won't give up yet, but seriously I feel like I am 37 dpo... lol what day are you???????????

im only 6dpo but it feels like about 3 times that long ! im crossing my fingers for you

wonder why this month is dragging for us?

i don't know and its really strange too because usually im only ovulating now so you would think it would seem like a quick cycle but it doesn't !

Maybe it was Christmas let's blame that! I think for me it was all the meds this month that made it drag on... I am getting over it maybe now the side effects of clomid are rearing their ugly head!!!!

Hi Lovlies,

Saffy - I refused to take BCP before my antagonist cycle because the last time I came off it (all those years ago back when I was straight :lol:) it took 10 months for af to return so I told FS there was no way I was risking it! Yes I'm definitely up for a chat when you have your time off :p No ideas on the af front can't even find any reasons from Dr. google.

Tasha - Yay for tubes having a spring clean ready for their little visitors. Bring on the eggie.

Joeve - Internet cheapies are c%$p we all know that. I hope a proper test on a proper dpo shows a proper BFP :crossfingers:

Minnie - I'm sorry the TWW is being such a drag, I know there is no way to rush it so I hope you can just keep occupied.

Mich - I don't know if my last year will be any different, I can't think of anything to do differently so I guess I'll just see how it pans out. I'm a POAS addict but I wait till at least 10pdo.


AFM - I've booked to see FS on the 9th (cd13) so I'll see if he has any more answers for me then. I will also get the results of my AMH (I think that's it, its the one that says how much egg reserve you have left.)

My fish, Nemo seemed fine alone but the tank seemed so empty without Jack (he would have been about 14cm long with his huge fan tail) so I went and got a new little fish, Buddy. He's soooo tiny compared to Nemo or Jack he does nothing to fill the space, I might have to get a second little one then at least Buddy will then have a friend when Nemo finally goes. Nemo seems unbothered by Buddy but then he is mostly blind! Poor old fish. I've no idea how I keep them for so long but they just seem to last forever with me.

Cleaning feverishly as Mum and Dad arrive tomorrow for 6 days (praying for sanity and patience around my mother :pray:)

Sunbeam - good luck with the FS and also with the parents!! Their visit should at least keep you occupied until your appt :) Will the result of the egg reserve test change your treatment in any way?
Joeve - Hopefully it's just too early for you :crossfingers:
Minnie - sorry you've been having a tough 2ww. I was doing ok in my 2ww (all 4 days of it) but just spent the entire day playing with my rellies babies and the desperation for this cycle to be the one has come flooding back! Grr. So will you POAS Friday?

Thanks all for your advice on when to POAS. I'll wait til 10 dpo (Sun) then I have the blood test at 12 dpo. My specialist likes to test early - I'm not complaining :)
Unfortunately holidays are over and it's back to work tomorrow :( At least my boss is away for a couple more weeks :happydance:

surely it must be testing day by now......let me check again......nope still only 7 dpo ggggrrrr

Mini I hear you it's dragging on isn't it? I tested this morning with FR bfn ho hum.

joeve: boo for the bfn this morning, are you testing daily ? hopefully it changes tomorrow !

afm: even though i told you not to give up too soon im convinced im out for the cycle.....*twiddles thumbs* while waiting for time to pass

Boo, sorry Joeve, maybe there's still hope?
I agree time is dragging on. I'm one day behind you Minnie and not feeling hopeful today, tick tock tick tock...

Minnie - So close! I will be stalking FX

Joeve - sorry :( I know it's a long shot, but it aint over till AF shows up.

Mitch8 - Boo to back at work. Good luck too :)

Sunbeam - hope all goes well with your family and good luck with your FS appointment. Hope he has good news.

AFM: STILL waiting to ovulate :rolleyes: Maybe next weekend, if I'm lucky. We are trying to have very frequent BDing to keep DH supply fresh. In the past we have been lazy and usually waited till O day, but it clearly isn't working for us so we are trying to do it more often :lol:

joeve: any updates ?

Mini yes!!! Damn AF is arriving mehhh right on time. Over to you my dear :)

Joeve: sorry to hear that :hug: so you are 12 dpo ? Do you normally have a 12 day luteal phase ?

I don't think I'm going to go any better, not sure whether to test tomorrow or wait

Mini I have had shorter LT before I wonder does clomid do this? Hope a bfp is waiting for you x

Joeve: I think clomid sometimes fixes short luteal phase but it never did for me ! I never had a problem with my luteal phase until I started having miscarriages

Mini have you tested??

So sorry Joeve :(
Good luck Minnie for whenever you decide to test!
Hope you ovulate this weekend Tasha.

I'm feeling lightheaded and PMS-ey so not feeling good about testing tomorrow. My natural luteal phase is a pathetic 5-8 days :wall: I'm on progesterone which extends it to 13 days but as a bonus I get 5 or so days of extended PMS before AF arrives! So I'm sure it's around the corner...

Mich good luck for testing have everything crossed for you!

joeve: did af arrive in full force ?

mich: good luck for testing tomorrow :crossfingers: out of interest what have the drs said about having such a short luteal phase ?

saffy: thinking of you

tasha: good idea to change things up a bit, i hope you are/have ovulated


hi crafty, matthewsmum and sunbeam :hello:


afm: i tested this morning and it was a bfn, i have got REALLY bad back pain at the moment and some cramping, my boobs are so sore (from progesterone), because i don't bleed until i have stopped the progesterone i can never tell if its af signs or not. i have had a lot of pain this cycle so who knows :dunno:

Thanks Joeve!
Minnie - argh, those BFNs are just horrible to see aren't they? - even though hopefully it's just cos its too early. Fingers crossed for the next test :crossfingers: Tomorrow?
Do you usually have pain during your cycles? Maybe it's a good sign? I agree tho, it's impossible to read any signs when you're all "hormoned up"!!

About the woeful luteal phase- I went to 3 GPs, a gynae and then a FS about it. The 3 GPs told me I was wrong and the 2 specialists took a whole lot of convincing that it was true. I also spotted all the years I was on the pill and later, when on progesterone :wall:
Blood tests showed that my prog levels were good until day 6 or so, then they just dropped off to nothing :dunno: I had a lap and exploratory d&c last July to check things out and except for mild endo (unrelated), everything was fine. Since the d&c, I still have a natural luteal phase of about 8 days (but don't spot during it anymore) and only very occasionally spot while using progesterone now. I'm so sure my luteal phase and poor uterine lining was why I miscarried twice. Unfortunately tho, my uncooperative body won't let me get pregnant again to test if the d&c and using progesterone is the winning combination!! :angry:

Sorry - I'm sure that was way more info than you were asking for, ha ha ha :lol:

mich: not that wasn't too much info lol actually i have more questions, have you been on progesterone only on iui cycles or have you done progesterone on natural cycles too ? do you use it from ovulation usually ? and do you still get af when she is due while on them ?

i was talking to sunbeam about short luteal phases and how no one can explain it you just get progesterone, no one seems able to sort out why it is actually happening a lot of the time with ttc, ok you have such and such a problem here you go treatment xyz will fix it without actually finding out why it is happening :wall: