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  1. #1
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    Oct 2010
    Sydney
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    saffy - Great results! So hapy for you!

    Hi everyone...sorry for short message.

    BT was 'great'. Def going ahead with 'Operation Birthday' tomorrow FINALLY we are all systems go! Yippy!

    Here are my feelings summed up again:

  2. #2
    Registered User

    Sep 2009
    314

    Williever big happy bday for tomorrow sending
    u lots of :stickyvibesgirl xxx

  3. #3
    Registered User

    Apr 2008
    Melbourne
    167

    Hey girls.

    I am officially out this month. Nothing happening, an 'anovulation' month (had to google it!!) which is apparently common after a stim cycle. So back in a few weeks. Am a bit relieved, still emotional about last BFN.

    I expect to come backand find some BFP's!!!! I know it is in the stars for someone soon. So come on you gorgeous strong women, you can do it, i know you can.

    Sorry for the me post, rushing rushing rushing. Back in a few weeks....

  4. #4
    BellyBelly Member

    Jun 2010
    597

    Jayejaye - hope you get to relax over the next couple of weeks!

    afm - bt was not so good. My level was at 1200, and in past cycles it's been around 3000 at the same point. I'm trying not to stress, but it seems really low. Any advice? So far they've just given me an extra day before u/s (Sat instead of Fri) but maybe my puregon should increase as well?

  5. #5

    Jun 2010
    District Twelve
    8,425

    Hi guys....Found this information which I thought might be of interest.....(it is from a Canadian Naturopath that specialises in infertility)
    n2l x

    Nutrients and Supplements for Fertility & IVF

    Modern farming practices, your diet, and your lifestyle, may require that you supplement with certain nutrients to optimize fertility.

    Consult someone who understands, or can test for deficiencies, so a tailored program can be set out for you.

    Amino Acids
    The building blocks of life. Necessary for egg and sperm production. Some healthcare practitioners will prescribe amino acids such as l-arginine to enhance fertility.
    Sources: protein foods such as meat, fish, eggs, dairy, lentils, peas, beans, nuts, brown rice, sunflower and pumpkin seeds, and quinoa.

    Vitamin A
    Essential for the production of female sex hormones. It has antioxidant qualities which protects cells against damage from free radicals in the body. It also is important for the developing embryo. Retinol (the version of vitamin A found in liver) has been linked to fetal abnormalities.
    Sources: eggs, yellow fruits and vegetables, whole milk and milk products, dark green leafy veggies, and fish oils.
    Dosage: RDA 2565 IU for pregnant women.

    Beta Carotene is a pigment in plants that is converted into vitamin A. The corpus luteum is very high in beta carotene, so it may be cardinal in the regulation of the reproductive cycle hormones.
    Sources: peas, broccoli, carrots, spinach, and sweet potatoes.

    Vitamin B1 (thiamin)
    Needed for ovulation and implantation.
    Sources: molasses, brewer's yeast, whole grains, nuts, brown rice, organ and other meats, egg yolks, fish, poultry, legumes, and seeds.
    Dosage: RNI 0.8 mg per day (women)

    Vitamin B2 (riboflavin)
    Deficiencies are linked to sterility, miscarriage, and low birth weight. The liver uses B2 to clear away old used hormones (estrogen and progesterone). If these are not excreted, the body thinks there is enough and less production happens, resulting in hormone deficiencies.
    Sources: molasses, brewer's yeast, whole grains, nuts, brown rice, organ and other meats, egg yolks, fish, poultry, legumes, and seeds.
    Dosage: RNI 1.1 mg per day (women)

    Vitamin B5 (pantothenic acid)
    Important for fetal development.
    Sources: molasses, brewer's yeast, whole grains, nuts, brown rice, organ and other meats, egg yolks, fish, poultry, legumes, seeds, wheat germ, salmon, sweet potatoes, broccoli, oranges, cashews, pecans, and strawberries.
    Dosage: RNI 3-7 mg per day (adults)

    Vitamin B6 (pyridoxine)
    Together with zinc, B6 is essential for the formation of female sex hormones and the proper functioning of estrogen and progesterone. A deficiency causes the ovaries to shut down production of progesterone which leads to estrogen dominance. B6 is used to treat luteal phase defects because of it encourages the production of progesterone. It also has shown to improve fertility rates if taken over a 6 month period.
    Sources: molasses, brewer's yeast, whole grains, nuts, brown rice, organ and other meats, egg yolks, fish, poultry, legumes, seeds, and green leafy veggies.
    Dosage: RNI 1.2 mg per day, but up to 50 mg may be used per day.
    Note: Zinc is needed for its absorption.

    Vitamin B12
    Folate and B12 are needed for the synthesis of DNA and RNA. These make up the blueprint for the genetic code of the entire body.
    Sources: lamb, sardines, salmon, fermented foods that contain bacteria. Calcium aids in its absorption.
    Dosage: RNI from 1.5 to 50 mcg per day.

    Folate (folic acid)
    This should be taken for at least 3 months before conception, and 2 months after. It reduces the risk of neural-tube damage (brain and spinal cord) in the developing embryo. Vitamin C aids in absorption. The contraceptive pill depletes stores of folate.
    Sources: dark green leafy veggies, broccoli, organ meats, brewer's yeast, root vegetables, whole grains, oysters, salmon, milk, legumes, asparagus, oatmeal, dried figs, and avacados.
    Dosage: RNI 200 mcg per day (women)

    Vitamin C
    An antioxidant that prevents damage from free radicals. Too high a dose (over 1000 mg per day) may dry cervical mucus.
    Sources: citrus fruits, rosehips, cherries, sprouted alfalfa seeds, cantaloupe, strawberries, broccoli, tomatoes, sweet peppers, black currants, mangos, grapes, kiwi fruit, pineapples, asparagus, peas, potatoes, parsely, watercress, and spinach.
    Dosage: 500 mg per day.

    Vitamin E
    Deficiency may cause miscarriage. Taken with vitamin C may improve ovulation. Taken with vitamin C and selenium creates a healthy endometrium. Vitamin E has anticoagulant properties, so caution if taking blood thinners.
    Sources: cold pressed oils, wheat germ, organ meats, molasses, eggs, sweet potatoes, leafy veggies, nuts, seeds, whole grains, and avacados.
    Dosage: 400 IU per day

    Iron
    Iron helps prevent miscarriage. Tea, coffee, and tobacco all inhibit the absorption of iron.
    Sources: organ meats, lean meat, eggs, fish, poultry, molasses, cherries, dried fruits, prunes, green leafy veggies, kelp, spinach, parsley, pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds, broccoli, oatmeal, sardines, and nuts.
    Dosage: 20 mg per day (only take if you have tested positive for deficiency)

    Magnesium
    We need B1 and magnesium for energy production. Take with selenium, calcium, vitamin B6, and D to aid in absorption. Take with protein foods. Alcohol, tea, coffee, and smoking inhibit absorption.
    Sources: kelp, green leafy veggies, tofu, legumes, rye, buckwheat, millet, molasses, brown rice, bananas, dried figs, dried apricots, nuts, barley, seafood, and whole grains.
    Dosage: up to 400 mg per day

    Selenium
    Deficiency may cause infertility and an increased risk of miscarriage.
    Sources: tuna, herring, brewer's yeast, wheat germ and bran, whole grains, and sesame seeds.
    Dosage: 200mcg per day

    Manganese
    Deficiency may lead to defecive ovulation, and inhibit the synthesis of sex hormones. Manganese competes with iron for absorption. It is advisable to take manganese supplements with protein foods and vitamin C.
    Sources: whole grains, green leafy veggies, carrots, broccoli, ginger, legumes, nuts, pineapples, eggs, oats, and rye.
    Dosage: RNI 1.4 mg per day

    Zinc
    Deficiencies of Zinc are quite common. Zinc is important for the cell division in the fetus, producing good quality eggs, and maintaining the menstrual cycle. Alcohol and the contraceptive pill deplete zinc in the body. Folic acid, tea, coffee, high fiber intake, and iron may inhibit absorption. Vitamin B6 and C may aid absorption.
    Sources: lean meat, fish, seafood, chicken, eggs, pumpkin and sunflower seeds, rye, oats, whole grains, legumes, ginger, parsley, mushrooms, brewer's yeast, and wheat germ.
    Dosage: RNI 7 mg per day (women), up to 30 mg may be recommended.

    Coenzyme Q10
    Important for energy production. Levels of CoQ10 are lower in a woman who has experienced a recent miscarriage. ICSI fertilization rates may rise when taking this supplement. It also improves blood flow. Dosage: talk to your healthcare professional.

    Essential Fatty Acids
    Very important to take when trying to concieve. EFA's act as hormone regulators. Omega-3 DHA and Omega-6 arachidonic acid are important structural elements of cell membranes, body tissue, and brain development in the fetus. Start taking EFA's at least 3 months before you try to get pregnant.
    Sources: Omega-3; flaxseed, oily fish, walnuts, green leafy veggies, and tuna (not more than 150g/week).
    Sources: Omega-6; seeds and their oils.
    Dosage: 700-1000mg per day.
    Note: be careful if you are currently taking blood thinning medication.

  6. #6

    Jun 2010
    District Twelve
    8,425

    Now, time for persies!!!

    Happy Baby - I am so, so sorry for your terrible news. I can only imagine what a terrible blow it must be. Please take care of yourself and remember, we are all here if you need to vent, cry or (verbally) punch someone. Thinking of you x

    JBM - Not long now! You must be getting more excited by the day! Enjoy your time in Melbourne. The weather is pretty average today. I will try to organise some sunshine for your visit!

    Elocin - Great numbers for pickup and fertilisation!! Fingers crossed for a successful transfer! Are you having one or two put back in?

    Saffy - Great numbers from you too!!!! Congrats on such a big turnaround from your previous cycles. Did you do anything different this time around?? Fingers crossed this is the one!

    OneMorePlease - How are you gorgeous? I have decided I am going to try to lose 10 kilos before June (my 40th b'day). The FS says it will help. I hope you are well. Pop in and say hello! I miss you!

    Blossom - I hope you get to the bottom of the NK issue. It sounds like you are in good hands. Bring on May!!!! I will be praying it is your month...

    Willi - HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!! HAPPY TRANSFER DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope you celebrate with a nice big implantation followed by nine months of blissful pregnancy! take care x

    Tantee - How are you sweetie? Hope you are well and life is looking up for you

    Kass - Hiya. Thank you for all of your messages of support I hope you are doing well. I am sorry I dont know the answer to your question as I dont know anything about levels. Good luck though!!

    Melissa - Ask all the questions you want and/or need to ask!! Be up front and direct. This IVF caper is a service like any other. Demand satisfaction!!! (if only there were money back guarantees!!)

    Jaye Jaye - A massive BOO to not ovulating. It sucks knobs (my favourite IVF phrase - it can be applied to sooo many situations) Will you try again next month?

    Loops - Hiya! Hope DP is still on the mend and that you are getting lots and lots of BD-ing in!

    Albi - Welcome and good luck with your FET

    I really hope I havent missed anyone! If I have, I am really sorry....

    AFM - My period came straight after the BFN. And it has come with a vengeance. It is so heavy and clotty. The pain has been horrendous. I had to take today off work. Oh well...another joyous side effect I guess.
    I have been researching ways to improve egg quality (hence my previous post). I have started on CoQ10 and am trying to get l'arginane. Back on the Royal Jelly too. I also take elevit, berocca and fish oil. Who knows if it will all work. My FS is not a believer in complementary therapies but I say, what the hell...may as well try!
    I also need to lose weight. Anyone want to join my "Getting Buff to Get Up the Duff Club?"

    Take care everyone

    n2l x

  7. #7
    Registered User

    Oct 2010
    Sydney
    1,281

    n2l -Thanks hun. I hope the pain goes away soon for you. Like the bfn is not enough AF comes in to ruff us up too. Sorry babe xxx

    Kass - I have no idea...sorry...have they suggested anything other then the scan a day later?

    jayejaye - I hope you can now relax and start to come to terms with the last cycle

    Nic - How are you and your babies doing? Have you been updated? Come and join me in the tww. Just three hours in and I'm anxious!!!

    JBM - My bt is the 4th April. When they told me I thought of you and that you would have started by then. Isn't it strange how much we think of each other everyday

    Blossom - Thanks hun xxx

    Hi everyone xxx

    afm - I had so many giggles with nurses and fs today and many birthday wishes, while my legs were up. I spent the whole time looking at my bladder (as it was completly full and humongous) instead of watching the action in my uterus. They then showed me again the frostie. I can not explain how amazing seeing my egg on the screen was (I held back the tears). It looked like it had 100 cells. Also it defrosted 95% intact and rehydrated to resemble a fresh unfrozen egg. The nurses were really happy about it and said they couldn't have wished for better. Still got 5 left........Really it all went so well. BT is the 4th April.................

    So right now this day I made my wish come true.....I am preggers on my birthday. Now that little (possibly very spoilt in the future) darlng has to cling on. I keep looking at my sig. to stay positive.