LT TTC and Assisted Conception Feb-Mar 2012 #2

[Saffy]

vic- I'm 6 dpt transfer today not 5 -
not even half way through my tww yet Don't worry if you can't change it cos i know you are having your epu tomorrow

[vic261]

All done Saf. Am at work and jumping on and off. Must have got side tracked

Did you want to take over the list, for a few days???

[Saffy]

I can't sorry darl, I'm back at work this afternoon and will be MIA for 3 days ( can't be on BB at work ) maybe someone else can ??

[Mia01]

Kerbear - for friday!!!
Vic261 - YAY have a great flight and hope it ALL goes awesome for the weekend!! I'll be stalking to see how you go!
PlanetSasha - tell me about Synorel, still YUK after about 2 weeks I have been snorting but ahhh well we have to do what we have to do right?? Why cant they make it taste like strawberry or better yet chocolate! Thats an invention idea LOL
Meg76 for Monday! YAY Seems like we have you and Vic to stalk! LOL
MissRen - thanks SO much re all the info its MEGA helpful and very promising cos I think they'll be transferring a 2 day embie from what the nurse told me at our 1st appointment and only 1 so I was a little worried that it may not be the "best" but obviously it worked so why not for me!!
Awesome news hun again Congrats!
Richichi: - not sure re crinone but am interested to know the answer
Myturn and Amy_jellybean -
AFM - had my BT yesterday didnt get a call or anything so rang this morning but apparently no news is good news and you just keep going taking all the meds so YAY (I suppose) LOL :dontknow: Friday I have my U/S and BT so I'm hoping to know when EC and ET are from there

to anyone I've missed

[RhiChiChi]

Myturn & Amy, I posted in the tww thread but I want to come in here and say again, I am truly sorry. ((hugs)) Far out :-(

[Andie78]

hi ladies - i have recently joined bb and as i am about to begin another FET cycle, thought it might be time to join this thread too - if theres room?! you are all very busy in here and i will try to keep up...

bit of background - ttc for 5 years, ivf/icsi for past 2 years. have had a bumpy road up until now, and really hope that this year will be different for me - and for everyone else in here. switched clinics at the end of last year and have done 1 stim with new clinic already, which went well & managed to bank some embies. now just deciding what to differently to hopefully achieve a sticky pregnancy (arent we all?!). had FS appt today, my FS would like to thaw 3 embies out at a time, try and grow to blasties and transfer best one. i have never tried blasties before, although FS says embies are of good quality. scared that i might end up with nothing. i would be interested to hear your thoughts, if you wouldnt mind sharing your expertise with me?! had a scan today and transfer would probably be another week away, so ive got until then to decide i guess...

look forward to getting to know you all & goodluck to all waiting for epu's, et's, bt's, ovulation and anything else ive missed!

[Keta]

Welcome Andie always room for more! I'm hoping that it has the effect that by adding another someone gets squeezed out in the form of a bfp.

Hi girls you may have tead that it was a bfn for me. Trying to remain positive, so manu of uou have been through so mich more. I guess though that is what sometimes scares me. Hope this comes out right, im so scared of being in this for the long haul. Dont get me wrong i am prepared to it just sucks that it is that way. It would be nice if it worked in terms of line up in order of how long you have been trying and you can have your bfp! Anyway got the next lot of drugs ready and when af arrives it all begins again....

[Meg76]

Hey Keta, so sorry to hear of your bfn- it sucks regardless of how many times you've been through it. I must say though, that I'm very impressed by your attitude. The only way I have managed to stay sane and keep going through 2+ years of assisted conception is to keep my end goal in sight. While there is still something we can try and the FS is still positive I will keep going but it sure is a challenge isn't it?! Hang in there Sweetie. xx

Andie!! Welcome!! This is a lovely supportive thread and there is always room for more. It sounds like you and I are in a fairly similar situation- I'm going in on Monday for my 7th transfer. As for the blastie transfer debate, here is my experience. My initial FS transfered my fresh embryo at 3 days and and the remaining were frozen at 3 days and transfered at 4 days (morula). From that initial stim, I had 6 embryos make it to 3 days, 5 at 8 cells and 1 at 6 and all but one that was frozen survived the thaw. That FS was a bit more old school and his belief was that while there is about a 50% drop-off rate between day 3 and day 5 those stats are derived from embryos developed outside the body and that in the ideal environment it may not be that high.

My second stim was back in Sydney with a youngish female FS who is very research-focused and follows the latest developments. Her belief is that knowing unequivocally that your embryos can make it to blastocyst stage is crucial and statistically blastocyst transfers have higher success rates. Thus, my second stim resulted in a fresh transfer of one blastocyst and freezing of two. My last FET the embryo kicked on to hatching stage between thaw and transfer.

In saying all that though, I still haven't had any success. My issue doesn't appear to be with embryo quality and is to do with endometriosis and NK cells. There have been plenty of girls on here have success with day 2 and 3 transfers so that can definitely work too. I guess the best thing you can do is find a specialist that you trust and relate to and then collaborate to determine what is best for you.

The other thing I would suggest is that you brace yourself for the drop-off rate when they are growing them to blastocyst stage. After my first stim I had 8 eggs collected, all of which fertilised and had 6 surviving at day 3. Second time around it was 13 eggs, 10 of which fertilised normally, at day 3 there were 7 but by day 5 only 3. That freaked me out a bit but I was reassured by both the FS and the scientists that to have three perfect blastocysts is something to be happy about. That drop-off rate is really something...

I hope that is remotely helpful to you. The beauty of being in here is that there are lots of people with lots of different experiences. I sincerely hope your stay here is brief.

M. x

[RhiChiChi]

Hi Andie, welcome & wishing you all the best! Lots of support in here too

Keta, again sorry hun :-(

[myturn]

I just wanted to say, that the genuine care and emotion that has poured out here has been greatly appreciated. It really does help to know that we are not alone. I really feel like you guys are the best thing that has happened to me in all of this, and I hope to meet you IRL one day. xxx

[Meg76]

Oh myturn, I just went back and saw your bad news. I'm so so sorry, Honey. How are you bearing up?

Amy- if you're out there, there's not much to say but I'm sorry. Hope you can lick your wounds and come back out fighting.

Love to you both.

M. x

[myturn]

Oh myturn, I just went back and saw your bad news. I'm so so sorry, Honey. How are you bearing up?

Thanks Meg - I think I'm okay atm.... when DH gets back from work (he's out late tonight ) I will probably be a blubbering mess for a while... but generally speaking, I think I prepared myself on monday and it kinda crept up on me... so.... I'm okay. Had a little vent and am now just tired and over it and sore.

I am sure amy is getting lots of hugs from her DH - and will be back fighting in no time.

I have rescheduled my blood test for tomorrow, and will chat to the nurse then - I am hoping I can do a frostie this month (as it's the last one I can do to ensure I have a bub when I am still 35.... ) it may not work, but I need to at least give this month a try. I have two frosties there, so hopefully we can do that straight away.

after that... well.... I'm leaning towards a month or so or six off, just focusing on losing weight in the hope that that will help.

it just seems like a long road at the moment.

seriously though, thanks heaps for checking in and all the lovely posts and messages from people. What would I do without you?! xxx

hey vic.... or whomever does the list tomorrow.... can you put me at CD 1 for today (wednesday)..... I might even do it myself if no one has gotten around to it by tomorrow night....

[kimbe]

Vic - hope today goes ok!! Thinking of you & hope flight home is a good one

Everyone else, i'm still in here stalking a bit following your progress....can't wait for more of you to join the TWW thread!!
welcome to the newbies as well, hope your visit is short & fast and very successful

[RhiChiChi]

Hi ladies, hope you are all well. Thinking of those that need support and love ATM. Myturn, I am really happy that you find us all supportive and can come back, even though you are not in a great place.
AFM - transfer done this morning, so will be hanging in the tww thread. X

[nothing2lose]

16 February 2012

Got their BFP!!!!!!

Missren 13.02.12
Third Time Lucky 15.02.12

Waiting for EPU/O/IUI or just something to happen!
Keta - CD1
Myturn -CD2 Scan 27.02.12 for FET
Planetsasha - CD3
Mia01 - CD10
Kashby - CD10
Meg76 - CD12
Kerbear - CD15 EPU 17.02.12
Nothing2lose - CD23
Strawberry - FS appt 22.02.12

Waiting for Transfer
Vic261 - CD 12 EPU 16.02.12 Trans 18.02.12

Hanging out in the TWW (stalk them here: https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...45/index4.html

Rhi Chi Chi - CD16 transfer day!
Saffy - CD22 7 day post transfer 1 x day 2 embryo
Kimbe - CD19 4 day post transfer 1 x day 5 embryo



Hope that's all correct!! Let me know if you are missing or I got something wrong!!

[Keta]

N2L - can you put me as cd1 today. Thanks.

Vic - hope everything goes smoothly for you.

Amy and Myturn I hope you are feeling a bit better today.

Thanks everyone for your support yesterday, it meant a lot. I was thinking this morning thy I really should apologise to the poor couple in the waiting room yesterday whilst I waited to get me meds. It was their first visit and there I am silently crying, then my nurse walked out and I burst IMO years. Poor things must have been thinking what a looney! Love my nurse though who propped me up and I left feeling much better. Af arrived this morning and that always helps me accept things. Looks like this will be our last try of using puregon with tsi, I thought they would suggest iui next but from the way the nurse spoke fs is thinking ivf will be our best bet.

Hope you are all well. We need some more bfp on that list of ours!

[thirdtimelucky77]

Thanks for adding me on this thread nothing2lose - is is a great thread and I haven't been here for ages.

Amy and MyTurn I'm thinking of you

Xx

[vic261]

Hi Girls

I had my EPU this morning and all went really well. Gosh the nurses are all so lovely. I got 8 eggs and am pretty stoked with that outcome. Last time I got 5 and 4 fertilised, so here's hoping we get good numbers again. We are a bit nervous about doing a day 2 transfer as we would have loved to have a chance as Blasti, but my clinic doesn't work Sundays, so cant change over solutions or something. Oh well, they say the best place is in the womb. Things between DH and I are quite strained at the moment and we have been arguing, which we never do He is protecting himself again I guess and I really feel the pressure this time too. I had my blood pressure taken and it was sky high. They took it again and it was higher again. They left me for a while, and DH went for his part and I meditated and when they took it, it was fine and back to normal. Thank god. I had visions of them cancelling it all. I was the only one in there today and I actually had my FS do the procedure. He comes in and introduces himself and then asks me if I had had this done before. Um...YES!! Your my freaking FS!!! So needless to say it apart from that it went well. Its just a pity he is one of the top FS in Adelaide.

I feel like the end is getting near. Our relationship is starting to suffer and as we have only been married 9 months its too early to put this much pressure on it. Having said that I dont know how we will cope with ending the journey.

Reading all the BFN's yesterday really puts it into perspective. There are no gaurantees in life. I feel like I dont want to ruin my marriage for something that may never happen. And without him, I wouldn't and couldn't do it anyway. He has to go away again for work on Monday and I wont see him until Friday night and we always struggle with him being away

Still at least he will be with me for transfer

Thanks N2L for taking over the list. Can you please move me to the waiting for transfer xx

Good luck Kerbear xxxxx