LT TTC & Assisted Conception Nov-Dec 2010

Saffy ~ yeh I probably wont be drunk but Ill have a few. Im a bit of an alco though LOL so I can hold my liquer pretty well. Enjoy your champas and Im pleased your bleeding has stopped and not much to go - you are nearly there and you can move forward. All the best chicky xo

Kaybee ~ 10 eggs YAY! I think its pretty normal for the guys to get a bit emotional and moody. But I hope he looks after you because you really need to rest. No cooking etc. Will be keeping FX'd they all fertilise and grow and divide nicely. My clinics only told me about fertilisation - didnt ring me with updates.
Yeh I wish that was me in the clip LOL and I wish DH looked like that guy LOL. DH does have a pretty good bod though so I can't complain.

Hey there beautiful ladies :hello:

Sorry i've been absent lately, been a busy bee but have been thinking of you all. Forgive me, I have a bit of catching up to do!!:oops:

Saffy so so sorry hun :hug: A week off will do you good...have you not heard retail therapy is a proven treatment!! :lol:I know after my m/c's i just wanted to hide from the world for a while and not have to deal with people...everyone! Take the time to pamper yourself, relax and be super-dooper kind to you and your DH. Thinking of you xxx

Kaybee, you little chookie....10 eggies is fantastic! I'm lucky if i even get 2! Everything crossed for lots of strong embryos.

I need to read back a fair bit to see where you are up to, but will be back in here more often now (hopefully, work has settled now)
I've picked up all my drugs from the clinic and everything is all ready to go but now just waiting for AF, its 4 days late!! I think after my m/c in august my hormones are still trying to get back to normal? Does anyone know any ways of making AF come on? I've heard there are ways to help coax her out!!

Hi to everyone, have a lovely night and....keep hangin to hope (i know i do, its the only thing that keeps me "sane" through this nightmare)
Hugs & kisses
xx

Hi ladies :) kaybee thats fantastic!!! fingers crossed all fertilise! my past clinic called me everyday to tell me the progress of my embies but not sure with westmead, after egg collection i go straight over to the clinic to find out the quality of the eggs and sperm but after that im not sure?

Thanks ladies for the advice, DH and i have been discussing the embryo issue and we are pretty open minded to go with what the scientist thinks is best, our last 4 were day 5 and we got nothing out of it, only 1 pg that ended in a early miscariage so i figure why not try something different? maybe the embryo's will be more successful where they should be rather then in a container? We have also been discussing if we do a day 3 transfer maybe we should put 2 back? I dont know i think we will just keep an open mind until EPU. Wouldnt think it could be such a hard decision to make but we just don't want to make the wrong one.

Is it possible to get AF while on the injections? just feel a bit heavy today, iv had tenderness in my ovaries (which is obviously the follicles growing) but the heaviness is in the middle like AF's coming?????? could this feeling possibly be from the injections? sorry its just too long ago since my last STIM to remember.

Hi everyone!

Yogi, sorry I can't help much but if I'm around another girl who has her AF mine usually comes faster.

Kaybee, so glad EPU went well! FX for some nice strong embryos for you and a quick recovery.

Ehm, oh dear how unlucky, but glad you were able to get some answers from your FS.

Oneday, goodluck working out your transfer concerns hopefully they will be able to help you make a decision you feel comfortable with.

Hi also to Loops, SpringLola, Nicoleh, Saffy, and Happybaby and anyone else I may have missed

Scan went well this morning with 12 follicles looking ready for EPU next Wednesday, just took my first orgalutran tonight ouch! but not too bad. I think I might be able to avoid OHSS this time yay!

kaybee - 10 eggs is fab, hope you get great results. My clinic is really good, they call about every 2 days with updates.

ehm - sorry to hear about that, I keep getting told I am a difficult patient too!!

saffy - glad to hear you are taking some time off work, relax and enjoy getting ready for christmas & make sure to take extra special care of yourself.

loops - good luck at fs next week and hope you get all your questions answered

oneday - my fs will only do day 5 blasty with me so thats all I have ever had, good luck with your decsion

Hi & hugs to everyone else

afm -4 more days on provera then waiting for af begins...

Aimee that sounds gr8 12 follicles!!! how many eggs have you got previously? You will be in the 2ww with me too :) there is going to be a few of us i think! im so excited but nervous about my scan tomorrow!! iv had a few small pains in my ovaries last night and this morning im hoping that its nothing to worry about and the eggies just growing!
Thanks nicole, thats the same as my other clinic but i think day 2 or 3 transfers are more for ppl that only get a few eggs but hopefully i will get aroung 15 like last time and they will suggest to do day 5! Goodluck with AF arriving hope she is here soon (she never comes when you want her too) so frustarting!

Hi Ladies,

I will be brief as I am away at my Mum's for a few days.
It sounds like there is some positive stuff happening this week for many :)
Sure beats last week!

AFM, I am finally O'ing now... 5 days later than usual for some reason. Unfortunately my reception here is non-existant so I couldn't talk to FS when she called with third set of BT results and to direct me to next actions :( So I don't know if I am meant to start Pregnyl jabs on Monday.... Apparently she is in surgery today, so will have to try and get the helpful one on the phone! Maybe my luteal phase will be relatively longer seeing as 1st half of cycle was 18 days??? That would be good. But, at least my body is cooperating so far even if was a bit slow!

Sending best of luck to everyone as the week wraps up and hope you all have a relaxing weekend.

xx
LMM

4 fertilised. 6 have already died. What will be left by Tuesday? I'm so over this

Kaybee ~ hugs hun. Will be thinking of you and hoping for the best. Fingers crossed! All you need is one

Kaybee, sorry to hear that (hug). As Loops said you only need one and earlier this year we got a really good quality blastocyst from just 4 fertilized embryos. Fingers crossed for you hun, and relax over the weekend.

Kaybee don't stress i got 15 eggs last time and only 10 fertilised (using ICSI) and i still got 4 embies (which is good apparently) you do only need one like the girls said, keep positive xxxxx

hey girls. well its been a long time since i've been here, but i am back for some more punishment. first appointment with FS next week to try for #2. Very exciting. I have so many questions for him. My pelvic floor is still ****e - dont know if this is a problem?? Am still breastfeeding bubs so i will have to stop shortly which is sad. But, i guess it's the next step forward! Looking forward to the future!!

Hello to all the girls in this forum. I hope you are all well and thinking positive thoughts. I wish you all the very best of luck and that your dreams do come true for christmas!! Talk to you again soon!

Kaybee - I got 11 eggs last time and on day of transfer only ended up with 2, they were a great 2 though and I did get a BFP but lost it a few days later, fx all works out for you HOWEVER I know how frustrating this all is.

Big hugs & hi to everyone else

Hi everyone

oneday - yay! will be good to have some TWW buddies, I don't really talk to my girlfriends about IVF much and don't really have any friends who've had problems TTC or miscarrying so I'm really grateful to have others to chat with! Last stim cycle I ended up with 13 eggs and from those I ended up with 2 blasts. I do worry my eggs don't like the ICSI but we have had no fertilisation before so I don't want to risk it. Goodluck with your scan tomorrow!

nicoleh - hopefully AF will come as scheduled so you can get started on time

Kaybee - sending hugs and hoping that those 4 will stay strong ready for transfer, I think I hate the roller coaster the most!

LMM - that must be annoying not being able to get in contact with FS, hope you can get your instructions soon so you can get started.

AFM - am trying to keep my fluids up to avoid OHSS again. Does anyone know how many/few eggs are linked to OHSS?

Hi to everyone and hope your cycles are going well!

H everyone - hope your weekends are going well so far!

My levels have finally gone back to 0 so hopefully I'll be able to get going again soon, although I'm thinking it might be less stressful to give it a miss over Christmas/New Years and start again in Feb. Guess I'll see how impatient I get in the meantime!

Aimee -good luck for Wednesday!

jayejaye - hope your appointment goes well and you can get started (and finish!) soon

Kaybee - I've got fx that on Tuesday you'll have 4 strong and healthy blasties. Hope you're going ok :hug:

lmm - hope you were able to get through to someone yesterday - how frustrating!

oneday - hope your scan went well today

Saffy - hope you enjoy your time off, sounds like you have a good boss :)

Hi Nicole, ehm, loops, yogi, and anyone I've missed!

Hello Ladies,

Firstly - thank you for putting up with me being so negsy yesterday. I was in a lot of pain and after hearing that more than half of my eggs had died, I thought it was all for nothing. So, thank you for your hugs and your patience. People who don't know what it's like wouldn't have put up with me.

Kass- yay for the end of that chapter, finally. It's a hard decision now - when to go again. It would be nice to have a drink over Christmas and not worry about ivf.....BUT it would be nice to know you're on the way to being UTD again. Ah, the dilemmas!

Aimee - how are you feeling? I don't know how many eggs are linked to OHSS, I think it is a bit more complicated than just a number - two people can have the same number of eggs but totally different oestrogen levels. Sorry!

JJ - Hi and welcome back. Good on you for jumping straight in with a little bub at home - I wish I hadn't left it so long to TTC #2 but I thought I would be one of those miracle stories we hear about. All the best!

LMM - have you had any luck contacting FS yet? There's always something there to make things that little more difficult isn't there. Anyway, yay for your Oing ovaries.

My pains have started to ease a bit and am hoping everything settles down for transfer on Tuesday. The nurse said she thinks I had a bit of mild OHSS, but I reckon I'll have it under control with lots of water and rest. It has to be the weekend when I have lots of friends in town for weddings and things, so just when I want to lie around doing nothing everyone wants to try to meet up. I don't want to do anything but feel so rude if I don't explain. Anyway, have a lovely weekend ladies.

Thanks again for your support :grouphug:

Hi ladies,
im glad your feeling better today Kaybee :) rest up for tues xx
Kass good to hear, fingers crossed for your next cycle when you decide to go again xx
Thanks Aimee :) how are you feeling?

AFM- scan went well, EPU is on tues was hoping for mon but some of my follicles are still around the 14/15 mark so the nurse wants one more night of puregon. I had about 6 that are a really good size i asked her how many eggs does she think i will get and she said about 8 that should fertilise? or maybe more so not sure if that means they will prob only get 8 eggs in total or 8 after fertilisation as some havn't reached muturation yet, but tues will tell all so just have to stay patient till then :) I cant wait for tues and she put my mind at ease a bit with my pains she said there is no way AF should come and the pains would be from my ovaries being so big.

hi everyone,

We're having a great little break visiting family and I think the timing is good :)

Kaybee: SO glad you are feeling better... and you don't have to apologise for venting or feeling negative... I think we all have our days love :hug: Better to get it out on here than self-implode! GL for Tuesday, will be thinking of you.

Aimee: from the little I know about the process it sounds like you are on track... best of luck for Wednesday!

Nicoleh: I hope AF comes quickly and you can move on to the next step soon :goodluck:

JJ: hi and nice to meet you. Good on you for jumping in, and :crossfingers: all goes well and FS will give you lots of good answers and direction.

Kass: IKWYM... I would probably try to take a little step back at Xmas and try to enjoy without the worry. Whatever feels right at the time though! Hard when it's always at the back of your head :think:

Oneday: I really hope Tuesday comes fast for you babe, sometimes waiting is the worst bit of all.

Saffy: hope you're doing well and relaxing lots!

AFM: I managed to get on to the helpful chick at the other clinic who cornered FS in between clients for some answers :lol: I will be taking first shot of Pregnyl on Tuesday morning before we head home and again on Friday. REALLY hoping I don't have bad side effects as I will be stuck in the car all day driving and then working two long days. Looks like FF is going to mark O-day as Thursday gone, which is awesome timing :inlove: will give us a good shot.

big hugs and hi to all and to anyone I have missed, I had to take notes and work up to writing this reply :redface:

xx

HI ladies,

LMM- glad you got onto the FS and worked out your regime, happy the timing was right!

Oneday- 8 fertilized would be great :clap: I assume they expect to get more at the EPU- best of luck hun, I'm sure your lucky 1 or 2 will be in those 8 x

Kaybee- its understandable to be disappointed, I would have been the same, onwards and upwards though and good luck for tuesday. Can't believe you have full social calender- that will be hard when you should be resting, hope it works out x

Kass- hope you enjoy your xmas whether you try or not, glad your levels are down (IYKWIM), I felt better when mine dropped cos it doesn't drag on and means you can start afresh ( not that we should have to, but thats another story!)

Aimee- not sure about OHSS, my ovaries need a bomb put under them to work so I haven't had the pleasure of overstimulating lol, hope the fluids keep it at bay x

Hi nicoleh- how are you?

jayejaye- welcome! Pelvic floor shouldn't be prob for conceiving but can be a hassle later in pregnancy, but depends how bad it is so talk to your dr. Hope you are utd with no.2 soon!

Springlola- how did you go yesterday? Hope it was ok, pm me if you want xx

Hi loops, ehm, anyone else I missed, have a great weekend x

AFM- looking forward to going away Monday :dance:

Thanks littlemissmoutain so do i :) goodluck with your injections xx
Yeah Saffy i would be happy with that, last time i got 15 eggs so im hoping for some where around that. And im hoping our lucky one is in this batch :pray:
Have a great time away! enjoy your self, i loved Fiji just being able to be our selves and not have to worry about anyting, let your hair down and treat your self :)

I can't wait of tues!! Did anyone else start to get over it by this stage? i have lower back pain and i hate feeling bloated! and the suspence of how many eggs etc is killing me!

I hope everyone is doing well xxx

Hey ladies can anyone help? i have done it before but cant remember that far back, im doing my ovidrel injection tonight at 11:30 does anyone know if i need to get the air bubble out? or just inject it into my belly with the liquid? im pretty sure last time i just injected it in?? im worried if i try and get it out then some of the liquid may come out and i will be screwed!

I think its made to be given with the air bubble- so it all goes in, good luck! ( I do remember stressing about the same thing when I gave mine) xx

yup, i think i remember that you didnt have to get the bubble out of it. i was petrified about wasting it too!!

Hey there,

Haven't been on here in ages and thought I'd check in. Oneday, I too have EPU tomorrow and have Trigger tonight at midnight. I haven't had the Ovidrel before and am having it tonight too. The nurses didn't specify anything different as I had asked if it needs to be intrmuscular(?) and she said no, just take it as per your usual shots. I plan on trying to 'flick the airbubbles out and then maybe squeezing the TINIEST of drops out before injecting. My only concern is if I hit a tiny blood vessel (which I have only done once - touch wood - in the cycle and all it did was create a massive bruise. In any case, I am taking the instructions to bed for a bit of light reading and will try and get some sleep before midnight (but doubt it) Good luck!
How many follies did you have on your scan? I had heaps but most of them small due to PCOS but FS said we could be looking out about 8 good sized ones
Fingers crossed for some great results for you too.

Hi to everyone else. I'm sure I will have a bit more time over the next few days to catch up on everyone. I have been MIA as I tend to get a bit obsessive with BB especially when cycling so thought I would take a step back for this cycle. I hope you understand what I mean.
I hope everyone is doing well..... I truly hope 2011 brings about the realisation of the baby dream shared by everyone in here. Sending you all positive vibes.....xxx

I was writing as you both posted. Maybe I won't worry about getting the drop after all!
Oh this is all so confusing! I'm sure that the nurses must think we're all nuts obsessing over the smallest detail as they do it every day but my last trigger was different and they seemed to emphasise getting the bubble out. Arghhhhhh!

Thanks ladies i think i will leave it in there :)

tantee is your EPU 2mo or tues??? mine is tues but you need to inject the ovidrel 36 hrs before EPU, just above you wrote 2mo so was worried for you!! I had about 15 follicles i think which are pretty good sizes, i cant wait for tues to be over so i know how many eggs! goodluck with yours and will be seeing you in the 2ww :)

What clinic are you with tantee? im with westmead :)

Oops, I meant Tuesday. It's kind of like I am discounting tomorrow altogether as I have no shots or anything to do. Thank you for your concern....I think this process is sending more than a little loopy! IKWYM about wanting Tues over. I am having twighlight anaesthetic although my clinic generally has sedation/local offered so that DH can be present. I told them that I am more than happy to forego that experience and just go to sleep during EPU. If there is any part of this journey that I don't have to be awake for, I am all for it!
15 follies sounds great! I hope you get lots of nice healthy eggs from them. Good luck!!!!!!!!!!!

I am with SIVF :-)

pheww!! i know i get a bit a taken back not having to do anything tomorrow either but its good! With my first STIM i was put to sleep which was great but now that i have swapped to westmead they don't do that so i will most likely be half out of it but may fall asleep which im hoping for as i dont want to remember it lol. And DH can't stay with me at all :( he has to drop me off at 8:30 and he will get a call to pick me up when im ready so i will be on my own for 3 hrs! before my op as its not till 11:30, im so scared but know i will be ok.

I hope it all goes well for you :goodluck:

oneday - best of luck for Tues! It seems like you have been planning this cycle forever babe, hope you get a nice batch of eggs (thats the first thing I ask as soon as i stir - how many eggs??)

tantee - good luck with your EPU too

saffy - have a great time away & enjoy your break

lmm - I have never had pregnyl so good luck & fx for no nasty side effects

kaybee - good luck for Tuesday, OHSS is the pits but in the past mine has always settled by day of ET, hope you had a nice relax to get over it and I don't blame you for not wanting to socialise

kass - thats good about your levels, you are more patient than me, GP rec after this whooping cough I should have a break but I really want to go one more time this year

Hi to Loops & ehm and anyone else I have missed

AFM - after 10 days on provera AF arrived early (was meant to be on provera for 14 days) hope it coming early is a good sign for this cycle. I am doing atagonist again and will start the puregon Monday. I am still not fully over this whooping cough but I am alot better so I think I will be ok doing a cycle, lucky I am not working at present and I will just be able to rest up. Only have a little more xmas shopping to do which I will try to get out of the way this week. Other than that I am selling anything thats not nailed down on ebay to make some extra $$$ for xmas.

hey nicole, thanks :) yeah i know thats why i think im so nervous and anxious for it all to happen this time cause iv been waiting for so long its ben a huge build up, not long to go now! Goodluck with this cycle and i hope its the one xx

Can i ask what are the side effects of OHSS?? iv read up on them but wanted to know from ppl who have actually had it what symptoms they got? Iv felt alot more bloated this time and have wondered if maybe i have a mild case?? im just hoping its from my ovaries being so big? xx

Hi Ladies, sorry went MIA again, been stalking just not posting :lol:

Saffy: Thanks for asking after me..makes me feel special..nawww....I have 5 follies (so no diff with the antag) one huge on at 29 and 2x10 and 2x4 that was on friday, have another scan today to see what their up to.

Tantee & Oneday: good luck for Tuesday, you both have great numbers hopefully you get some great fertilisation rates too :lol:

Nicoleh: I'm about to start going through all my 'junk' to sell on ebay too. What to be ready to go when the house sells ...its all starting to happen again for you ..

Kaybee: Good luck on Tuesday :pray:

AFM: As I said to Saffy not many follies there for. Not sure how I feel about it, its unlikely they will cancel me this cycle just run with whats there, if the numbers dont change with an antagonist cycle they say I'm just not a numbers girl..:o...so I gues I have to hope for quality. Have another scan today to see how their growing, hopefully the 2 little ones have caught up a bit..trying soooo hard to be positive. But I can see DH going for the unsnip :shhh:

Good luck everybody and :bluedust::pink-babydust: to all

springlola i wish you all the best for your scan and i hope your little eggs have caught up, and its not always about the number of eggs the quality is more important so fingers crossed they are great quailty eggs :) when will you be looking at egg collection?

Hi All,

OK, I have had a bit of a read back and tried to catch up but it is very hard as it has been so busy, so I am sorry if I miss anything/anyone...

Saffy - so sorry to read of your loss. It makes it all that bit harder when so much has gone into TTC. My thoughts are with you. I hope you have a nice week away and spoil yourself a little bit. Sometimes a change of scenery, although certainly no cure, is a good way to help take your mind off things a bit. Big hugs to you.

Spring Lola - how did you go with your scan today?

Nicoleh - thanks for the well wishes. GL for this cycle. I too have had a cough for the last 7 weeks. Was tested for Whooping which was negative but had slightly high influenza levels (I had the flu shots this year as I knew I was doing IVF). I was worried that it would affect my cycle but they didn't seem all that bothered (even if it is driving me crazy). Enjoy your Christmas shopping. It doesn't seem as though the shops have reached that crazy period yet.

Aimee - GL for EPU on Wednesday. Hoping that plenty of fluids are keeping that nasty OHSS at bay. I tend to stim high and find a real difference when I drink heaps.

Kaybee - Best of luck for tomorrow.

Kass - I'm sorry that your last cycle was so devestating. This TTC stuff is such a rollercoaster. Have you decided how you will move forward?

Loops - how are you travelling? What is your next step?

Oneday - Good luck for tomorrow. I will be thinking of you. Funny thing though, last night, after posting to you, I went to bed and set my alarm for the trigger, except I set it for your trigger time of 11:30 and not mine at 12. What a doofus!

A big hi to all you other ladies.
AFM - EPU tomorrow. Trying not to think too much right now and dwell on things.

LOL thats funny tantee, goodluck tomorrow for your EPU i will be thinking of you :) Im off to bed early tonight as i set 2 alarms for 11:30 for my trigger last night but was so scared i would sleep through it that i didn't sleep then after i done the trigger shot i layed there tossing and turning for an hr as you do with all the things going through our brains lol. So i will try and get on here tomorrow afternoon once i get home to let you all know how i go, not sure how i will go going back to work on wednesday if im really sore like last time! but if i am will call in sick. Ok talk real soon ladies xx

Oh and 1 thing before i go, i need to fast from 12 tonight but i can drink water right up untill the op cant i???

Hi ladies - it's so busy in here!

Oneday and tantee - good luck for collection tomorrow! The trigger always makes me a little nervous - I thought it was not a good idea to inject air bubbles? I always clear the air first - though maybe I'm wrong if no one else does that! Oneday - my clinic says no liquids at all 6 hours prior, but that's with twilight which it sounds like you're not having? Is it too late to call and check?

Kaybee - hope your blasties are going well - is your transfer tomorrow?

Springlola - how did your scan go? Hope the smaller ones have caught up

Nicole and lmm hope your shots go painlessly!

Nothing new for me - still undecided about what to do next

Hey Ladies,

Goodluck for tomorrow Oneday and Tantee - hope you get some lovely juicy ones! I know you've already done the trigger but just wanted to say that my clinic specifically told me to inject the air bubble (unlike the cetrotide). Anyway, it's done now! I was allowed to have clear fluids until 4 hours prior to the op. FX for you both

Springlola - how did your scan go today?

Nic - yay for AF and all the best for this cycle. I wish I had some stuff to sell to pay for this cycle - might be time to search through the cupboards. Really hope this cycle ends with a lovely healthy pregnancy for you

Saffy - glad to see you're not here LOL - it hopefully means you are off enjoying yourself down there

OK Ladies - I know I have missed so many of you, but I have this insane urge to go and clean the house, so that after my transfer tomorrow I can do nothing. So nervous! (Not about the transfer - they're no problem, but just the anticipation)

Talk to you tomorrow xo

Going to apologize in advance for the me post, but I've had one on my worst days since starting the IVF roller coaster.
Although I know my swear words will be bleeped out, I will also apologize for those too :lol:

Day started off normal, went and had scan, felt pretty positive with myself that they had found an extra one...
Had call into the clinic to get some more med's, presuming a Thursday or Friday pick up.
My FS wasn't there so got the guru ****er from hell..been doing it waaaayyy too long I think, forgotten the people attached to results.
Anyway, don't even have the decencey to take me into a consult room, no figure all the woman are there for the same reason (might as well do ****ing internals as a group option too) so presents me with ....we think you should cancel..I was gob smacked, my FS had promised we were running with what ever was there. I asked him to speak to her...for that he went into another room..why the privacy now..moron...comes out to say she agree's..what I don't get a phone call or a room..fighting back tears I ask why is this happening..This is the bit that blew me away...Its because your 39 and the quality of the eggs isn't good..I whisper, but the quality of the eggs has never been tested, I've been cancelled 2 times...well he says thats why you don't get many eggs, I've been doing this a long time and I know..of course who was I to question the guru WTF..I tried to explain to him that I'd already been pg this year...and this one blew me right off my chair I actually had to catch my breath...he says, but it wasn't a viable pg was it because it failed..:o
I couldn't speak after that, except to say I wont cancel...

I'm know what he is saying is probably true..but just to treated like a human being with feelings would've made the whole experiance a bit easier to take.

So much to their delight *sic* we have egg pick up on Thursday morning. But they made sure they told me that they wouldn't do DH's biopsy until the checked my eggs were viable, save everybodies time.
I think he changed his mind when I said that we were not doing anymore IVF so it s now or never..or he won't get paid.

So sorry for the long winded story book but now I feel better...hope my swear words get bleeped...:lol: