No, it won't matter. Don't fret about it.
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No, it won't matter. Don't fret about it.
Hi Everyone
I'm back and have just started my 4th Stim cycle this year. This will be the last one for the year and maybe forever. It's starting to feel like :wall:
My FS said you might want to consider using an egg donor if the next couple are BFN's. Not quite sure I want to go down that path. How does everyone else feel about it? Would you consider it?
I'm trying to stay positive for this cycle. Please give me the best xmas present this year :pray:
MyTurn So sorry you got a BFN. Glad you've got a positive outlook and are starting again :goodluck:
Maruschke I'm about a day ahead of you in my Atagonist cycle so we should be in the 2WW together. All the best. :crossfingers:
Hi to the familiar names, Saffy, Melissa. Hope it's all going well.
xxHB
Welcome back HB - I really hope you get your BFP this cycle. In regards to using donor eggs, it is something that I considered along the way and one of my sisters has always offered that she was prepared to be an egg donor if required. We never had to look at this as an option, but I definitely would have looked at it, although I think only with my sister. It is such a hard question and I think would take a lot of soul searching.
My turn, hope the BT goes okay - well as okay as it can given the circumstances. I too always thought I was going to be a younger mum, but circumstance and fertility (or lack of it) got in my way. I gave birth to my daughter when I was 37 going on 38.
Maruschke, I am sure it will be fine. It sounds like you would have squirted out what you dialed up first and then it would have reset and you would have injected the second dial up.
N2L how are you feeling? You are PUPO at the moment aren't you? Hope all is going well, sending loads of stickies your way.
Hi saffy and good luck with your transfer on Thursday.
AFM, well I had my FS appointment today. It was really emotional walking back in and a lot of emotions came back to me. It was lovely to take my DD and introduce her to my FS. Well he is really positive and says all 5 of my frozen embryos are of top quality. He said the fact that I am 40 now is not a concern and my embies are from my 36 year old eggs, he said this could make a big difference. So that in combination with the quality of our embies means we will be transferring one at a time, even though I am old! So we will work with my natural cycle, last time I had to use HRT, but I have had a cycle of between 28 and 40 days for the past 18 months. Hopefully all my paperwork will be back in time for day 1 but even if it isn't my FS said to still contact him as we may still be able to cycle. So long story short, it looks like we may be able to squeeze in a cycle before the end of the year.
Hope everyone is well,
Janie xxx
Awesome Janie! Does that mean you have time for a BFP for Christmas? FX!
I have my BT tomorrow, CD6, day 4 of stims, any idea what my E2 should be?
Yeah - hopefully there will be time for a BFP before Christmas :) Just depends on my cycle, but even if it is a 40 day one, day 1 for the FET cycle will be 3 December. Fingers Crossed!
I have no idea I'm afraid in regards to the E2 results - I never had any BT throughout my stim cycle. I'm sure there will be someone on here that can answer that :)
Hi all,
Janie xxx
It looks like there's a few of us all cycling together before Xmas - bring on the BFPs!!
Maruschke I have my BT tomorrow but I've never been given the results so I can't tell you what the levels should be. Are you doing an Atagonist cycle with the Orgalutran injs. Once I have the first BT they can usually give me the day to start doing those injs too.
Have a great day everyone - positive thoughts :grouphug:
xxHB
Yep I'm supposed to start Orgalutron Sunday I think. 150 gonal f each morning then starting sunday adding an orgalutron (sp?) each night. Hope your BT tomorrow goes well :).
maruschke- no idea, something in the thousands?? N2L might know, i think she asked about it a while ago. Sounds like you are right in the thick of it- jab away!!
happybaby-just responding to your question about using donor eggs- yes I will be considering it if I don't get pregnant in the next year or so, as I will be over 40. My sister has offered so I would use hers. Not sure about a random donor, but I can't see why not. We have a few patients giving birth to babies via donor eggs and some are in their late 40's. Anyway, you might be getting a xmas present!!!
Janie- hope you can fit in your cycle this year, sounds like its on the cards. I would LOVE 36yo embies lol, isn't it ridiculous what we get excited about!
Afm- transfer tomorrow- yay- and think I will start my clexane in the morning. I have to write all my medications down now, as both my cats are on meds too and our kitchen bench is like a pharmacy- don't want to accidently take the cats' BP meds!!
Hi girls - just wanted to pop in and wish you all the best with your cycles.
Saffy - good luck with your transfer tomorrow. Hoping so much that this one is the one for you!
I will hopefully be joining you all in here again soon. I have a fs appointment on Tuesday to find out our next step. I know it will definately involve an op for me of some form just not sure what the details are yet. So in the meantime trying to enjoy our first break in the whole ttc thing in a year and a half. Fingers crossed we can get back in the game soon. Hoping though to have a few more attempts of OI and TSI before IUI/IVF is suggested as getting DH to agree to these will be a mission.
thanks for the well wishes
looks like there's lots of action in here at the moment - I hope everyone is feeling okay about it - seems to be a positive vibe today.
BT yesterday was negative - but I knew, so I was okay. Managed to get into the FS today!!! only because of a cancellation, and there was nothing until after my next cycle would start.
I was quite anxious actually, I wasn't sure what to ask, what to say blah blah blah... but it went quite well actually.
we discussed the options, and decided to change to Down Regulation -as we didn't get as many eggs as we would have hoped and the cycle was long - so we will up the meds as well
I feel optimistic this afternoon - and it will be nice to have the month to not think about it. Especially when DH returns from his trip :bd:
So I'll sign off from here, and be back in the saddle for AC in december. I'll be stalking you all :crossfingers:
Myturn I'm so sorry about your BFN. This LTTTC can just suck a lot of the time. It is great that you have a plan of attack for your next cycle. My stim cycle was a down reg. I hear that they often work well for us PCOS sufferers as it takes you back to a baseline where the FS can manage your hormones from.
Best of luck and can't wait to see you back in here.
Janie xxx
Myturn :grouphug:
Well I had my BT and get the results back in about 6 hours. Meanwhile, shouldn't I feel something? I feel really normal. This has been so easy (so far!). All I have is the tiniest amount of pressure feeling in my ovaries. Is that all it will be? I'm worried I mustn't be growing many eggs if this is all I can feel.
Maruschke how far into it are you? I don't think you will neccessarily feel massive yet, good luck for BT, do you have a scan soon? Oh I just checked I think you are only 5 days into stims, should be ok
Yes scan monday, day 4 stims today (CD6). Thanks Saffy, I know so little about stimming O.o. Will I feel huge later?
Hey ladies,
I've been stalking this thread for awhile but feel a bit funny about joinng in as we are already blessed with 2 children (both ART concieved).
Anyway, TTC#3 is proving no easier than the last 2 so I think I'd like to share this rollercoaster.
I truly hope we can all get some good xmas news this year!
I'm doing an antagonist cycle again (never done down reg) with a multitude of added drugs - pred, progynova pessaries (yuk!), pregynl,clexane, antibiotics..... need my little checklist to be sure I do it all at the right times etc!
The antibiotics are the only real new addition this cycle so not expecting any miracles but sure would like one!
Marushke - I am pretty close on to your cycle. Also doing antagonist and today will be day 4 of stims. Have my first BT and scan tomorrow.
I've found it really variable what I will "feel" at any stage during a cycle. Some cycles my ovaries are aching within the first few days. Other times i've had 3o+ follies and barely felt anything.
I'm starting to feel a warm throb with the light pressure in my ovaries, wonder what is going on? I've also turned into an absolute f'n B*TCH. Not just a little but a lot. And I've been crying at the drop of a hat. I think the meds are working.
Clinic just called but didn't tell me my E2. Apparently everything is fine and I'll continue on 150 iu and add orgalutron from sunday night.
Meredith - Welcome! I remember you so well - hopefully you will remember me???
I too have a DD, but am getting back on the wagon for a sibling (hopefully). Having a child/ren already doesn't change how hard your current journey (don't you hate that word) is. I hope you get your sticky bubba very soon. Here to hold your hand along the way.
Maruschke - I didn't feel much ovary pain until the last few days before collection and then I could hardly sit down as it felt like I was sitting on my ovaries they were so swollen! Good to hear all is one track.
Hi to everyone else, not much happening here - just waiting, waiting, waiting for AF to arrive so we can get this show on the road.
Janie xxx
Meredith how was your scan?
Janie, is pesky AF here for you yet? When is she due?
Things are really ramping up here. I can't sit and lean forward, ouchies.
HI Janie - yes I do remember you although it seems so many eons ago !!! Great that you have some embies from back in more "youthful days". I wish I even had some left from my 37yr old cycle!
Marushke - Sorry that things are painful for you but hoping that means lots of good eggies growing in there!
AFM - scan yesterday all pretty much on track as per previous cycles. 13 follies on L ovary and 19 on R but nothing over 9mm so early days. E2 at 1600 so they want me to start orgalutran today and back for another scan and BT on Mon. Starting to feel bloated and pressure in ovaries but nothing unbearable. expecting EPU may be next fri or sat. We have DS's 5th birthday party next Sun so I am going to have to be very organised getting everything ready this week as I guess Sat could well be a wipeout. We are not telling anyone about this journey either so can't really even enlist helpers without a good story.
Also just had a follow up call from my OB - I rang last week to cancel all my pg appts after the m/c. It was nice of him to ring given I hadn't even seen him for that pg yet but its still left me feeling flat - I wanted to get to see him for a pg... not a condolance call!
Oh man, orgalutran hurts :/. Scan 7.10 am where I finally find out how many follies I have. Please God don't let this cycle be cancelled.
creeping in to send sympathy to Maruschke - I found the orgalutran VERY itchy and it built up under the skin in a lump and was sore and red - but as I was taking it at night, it was fine by the morning. Hopefully it will be the same for you.
good luck to everyone else, I hope you're all feeling well and there are a bunch of BFP in here soon
creeping out...
*sneaks in to wish you good luck for 7.10*
Thanks all. Waiting waiting waiting :) 4 or more and we go ahead, 3 or less and we switch to IUI again, ugh.
Good luck Maruscke, hope the scan went well.
AFM my AF is due anytime from today to 12 days down the track. Actually sort of hoping for a longer cycle this time as I haven't got my paperwork back yet from Vic Police. So still waiting, waiting.
Janie xxx
Janie :hug: FX she turns up at the perfect time to get your cycle underway before Christmas :).
Jo - what are you doing this cycle? Starting clomid yet? FX for you... I really hope you get that sticky bfp very soon and can avoid all the AC crap.
Well the scan was good (albeit a little painful). 9 good sized follies between 13 and 15 mm, with a few smaller ones. Will scan again Wednesday, stimming and orgalutran til wednesday night, then EPU friday afternoon. Whoop. Please please please let me have a sticky baby for Christmas. If we get a bfp our 6 week scan will be Christmas eve and that would be the most awesome Christmas present ever. EDD would be 17th August, the 10 year anniversary of my grandfather's death.
great result maruscke!!
Great result M!! Sounds like you might be able to get a couple of good embies from this cycle!
I must say you're very keen working out scan dates and EDDs and the like. Anyone would think you really want this or something :lol:
:hello: everyone else!
12dp2dt and a bfn on a FRER this morning so I am definitely out :( back to the drawing board for me...
Thanks everyone. I know it's not a lot of eggs but we didn't want many, so for us it is a good result even though for others I guess it could be kinda disappointing. I feel positive for the first time in quite a while. We've relented and we will fertilise them all and see how we go... the FS says that for one EPU cycle, 50% of women take home a baby, and of those 50% only 5% have excess embryo's for their needs.
I am having different thoughts now about embie donation than I did prior... I can see it as a wonderful gift to someone and I am not as against donation now as I was prior to starting this. Especially with our m/c's, I wonder if the best interest of the child isn't to have a go at life with someone else with a better chance of carrying to term. Sorry for the sensitive issue, I hope I am not offending anyone :( just letting my thoughts wander.
I was wondering how I would feel if I donated an embie and the child was born and later contacted me and asked me why I donated rather than carrying myself, and I was worried I would sound selfish. Isn't that silly? :( I know there are so many good reasons to donate. Anyway, that's off topic, and I really hope I haven't offended.
Maruschke, thats a good/normal number for antagonist, my two stims I had about the same number of follies and got 10 and 9 eggs at collection. I don't think theres anythign to worry about at all, number-wise, they are better quality in antagonist too, so FX more will fertilise- GOOD LUCK!
marushke - sounds like a great follie number to me especially as they are all around the same size. Hoping that you actaully get to have the dilemma about embie donation. We only want one more child so would donate any if we had excess but my freezing rate is so low that may be a luxury to have that choice to make.
N2L - so sorry about BFN - that really really sucks. Where to from here?
Janie - My police checks were back in less than 2 weeks I think so shouldn't be to much longer for you.
AFM - my scan today mirrored Marushke's fairly closely! R ovary 17 follies with about 4 b/n 12-15mm. L ovary 19 follies with 6 b/n 9-15mm. I often get about 17-20 eggs at EPU but not many make it all the way to day 5 blasts. We have only ever had 1 to freeze so I don't get excited by egg or embie numbers anymore - sounds jaded doesn't it?!
My lining was only 5mm which is crummy but again fairly typical for me. Would be nice to get a good suprise at one of these scans. Will await E2 levels when called later today
Quite likely my EPU will be Fri too but prob won't be decided until after scan on Wed.
Also saw a haematologist today which my FS wanted me to do in case he could find some, as yet undiagnosed issue causing the m/c's poor implantation. I've had nearly every test there is to have but he still found a few more things to warrant yet more blood giving - twice in one day, aren't I lucky!!
Sounds like things are on track M! FX your lining plumps up on Wednesday :).
Just curious, do I need to sink the needle in as far as it can possibly go before I inject the fluid? Ta
Do you mean for the orgalutran? yes I would push in to full depth of needle.
I was also taught to push the needle all the way in.... (hate for it to break off half stuck in you!!) :lol:
Hi everyone
Im off to my fs today and feeling a little nervous so thought I'd post in here and try to get out some of the nervous energy! I'm hoping for good news and that I can get in to have my lap done before Christmas (Im likely dreaming on that one I know). I feel like this is all just another set back and I want to get into another cycle of jabbing - never thougt I would say that when I was first told that was what I'd need to do to ovulate. Oh well either way it will hopefully be a chance to get some answers and find out what the fs has in mind.
Maruschke - hope your follies are getting good and ready and the perfect eggy is in there waiting to become a sticky bub!
Saffy - hopefully you are getting through your tww ok and moving towards a sticky bfp.
N2L - I was sorry to read that you got a bfn. Its just not fair. I keep thinking that you, Saffy and Maruschke have been around for a while so its def your turn. Wish it was like lining up and waiting to be next, at least we would know that we would get there eventually. I hope your next cycle is the one. It must be really hard.
Myturn - are you doing another cycle at the moment? Where ever you are at I hope it is all going to plan.
Hi to all the new faces since my last cycle. Hoping to be back in here soon and getting to know you all.
Hi keta
I'm just waiting for AF to arrive in december and then we will do a down regulation cycle. (was antagonist last time) it appears my body doesn't respond well to the drugs
Hope you FS appointment goes well - you can only ask for the lap to be done before Christmas - hopefully it an be!! Good luck.
Hope everyone else is feeling okay.
Meredith - great news about the scan, but I can understand that you no longer get that excited by it. Praying that you get your sticky bubba this time. When is the haematologist coming back to you?
Marushcke - great results on your scan also.
N2L - I'm so sorry to hear about your BFN - you are at MIVF aren't you? Who do you see there (I am there also)? Do you know what the next step is for you?
Keta - Good luck today - let us know how you go.
Hi Myturn and Jo.
AFM - well everytime I am feeling a twinge I think that AF has arrived, and as I am still awaiting my Police Checks, I don't want her here - at least not until I have those forms in my hands! Once I receive them I will be wishing AF to be here sooner - oh the joys of LTTTC! You are either wishing AF was here or wishing she wasn't.
Hope everyone is well.
Janie xxx
Keta I hope it goes well :hug:
Hi girls thanks for thinking of me.
The appointment went well. Im having surgery next Wednesday :o How quick is that?! Unfortunately I will havew to wait a whole week after for the post op appointment but atleast we will have answers before Christmas. My fs is confident that we 'should' get preg just using OI(injections though) and TSI if it is only adhesions but if there is anything more then we will only be left with ivf. He said though not even to think of this at this point though as it is much more likely to be the positive outcome. Oh I hope so. If it is the later we will take some time out and have a break from ttc. For us time is on our side so I think if ivf is the case I will need to educate DH about the whole process and do some convincing as it really scares him. So either way we will hopefully be having a 2012 baby or I guess we will be going travelling. I hope its the first but for now can live with travelling too.
Hope everyone has had a good day.