Just popping into ur thread.. Ive got a question that hopefully u guys can help me with.. actually i have a couple. First have any of u noticed whilst being on clomid that around O time u get really sore and tender in ur lower pelvic area?? Im not really sure where my ovaries are but Im assuming its them that are sore?? Its basically the whole way across tho.. I noticed it last cycle too. Is it normal?? I start thinking i have that overstimulation thing happening but i dont feel bloated or anything.
My second question is.. This is my 5th cycle of clomid, I started in Nov last year.. the 1st one i did I was a bit oblivious as to when i wld O so we missed it altogether, the 2nd round I fell pg but sadly m/c'ed, the 3rd was 4 months after the m/c but i had progesterone pills to bring on af then i took the clomid but my hormones must have been all stuffed up cos i bled the whole way thru O time, last cycle we didnt fall pg and now there will be this cycle.. (FX it happens this time tho) I know the gyno told me when he prescribed them to me that if nothing happens after 5 cycles then stop taking them cos obviously there not doing the job.. but i did get pg after the 2nd cycle so im not sure if i shld continue taking them or if there are bad side effects of prolonged use?? Have u guys heard of any problems?? The reason I am on clomid is because after taking the bcp for 8 yrs my body got lazy and wldnt do what it was meant to do! Im a bit scared to stop taking it incase my body still hasnt learnt how to O by itself! But i dont want to risk getting any bad side effects if i continue to stay on it.. my gyno gave me 5 repeats for it which equals 10 cycles.. not sure if he meant to tho?!
Thankyou so much!
I hope it all makes sense.. i do have a habit of rambling a bit!
When I was on clomid the first couple of times I did have that pelvic pain you are describing. You won't overstim because clomid isn't a FSH where it produces multiple follies. You may produce a couple but not what FSH is designed to do.
Did you have a natural cycle after your M/C? I found after mine I had a natural cycle where I did in fact O naturally. I've had the same bleeding that you have had after my M/C for the last 2 cycles thankfully this cycle (IVF) I haven't had that bleeding.
I've done a total of 8 cycles of clomid and had no side effects other than the normal moods, hot flushes etc...
The reason they like you to do 4 cycles on clomid is because if you haven't gotten UTD by then your not going to and you need to look at more agressive treatments and/or investigations like a HSG or Lap. In saying that though I fell UTD on my 7th cycle (cycle after lap which resulted in M/C) so it can happen.
I think it is up to you and your Dr as to how many cycles you are prepared to do.
HI Reet,
I agree with Porsche- I have bad lower ab pain around o time. Actually it's the way I gauge when I am 'o'ing. The chances of hyperstimulating on clomid are very low as Porsche said.
I found myself in the same boat as you regarding how long to take clomid. I have now done 10 or 11 cycles (I've lost count) and I have fallen pregnant 3 times and m/c each. There are a few risks to staying on clomid long term: thinner lining making implantation harder, poor quality CM etc, which is why the suggest moving on with something else after 5 or 6 cycles. I was like you, and argued that it was obviously working, but unless the pg is sustained they count it as a non event (heartbreaking but true). There are other options available to you which might work better for you.
GL with your decision. Talk to your FS about it, and he might suggest giving it 2 or 3 more rounds. The choice is, in the end, your to make based on the info you are given.
Well we had our scan this morning and it showed about 6 follies. I'm a little disappointed because they may not all be mature at EPU and then we have to contend with fertilization rates and possibly lose some there as well. I was hoping there would be a little more there.
We are planing on EPU on Monday with another scan this Saturday to see how they are maturing. My lining is good and up to the required thickness. We've also upped my dose of puregon.
So there is no sign of OHSS at this stage and I really don't think it will be anything I need to worry about with 6 follies.
Hey Porsche glad to hear you didn't over stimulate, hopefully those 6 will be all you need to get your precious little one. I know what you mean about wanting more cos they don’t all work out but remember you only need one in the end. KUP.
Tammara, good to hear from you. How’s everything going with you and your little girl? What is your actual due date?
Mez? Have you had your 20 week morph scan yet?
AFM: Got our 20 week scan tomorrow morning. I am so scared and so excited all at the same time. Will pop in after woods to let you all know how it goes.
Looking forward to another fabulous month here ladies with lots of you graduating!
Xxoo
Porsche 6 follies is a good number at this stage, i think with sheree she only had a few follies on the day of scan then the next scan a couple days later she ended up with 14 good ones so fingers crossed you get a few extras
Keli i have two due dates - my IVF date is november 4 and ultrasound dates are november 7 so first week of november. She is going well im feeling her more and more now but hubby is too impatient to wait to feel her kick. Enjoy your scan tomorrow im sure everything will be fine and there will be happy tears
Thanku so much Porsche and Becnxavi.. u guys were a big help!
I think i have decided to stick with clomid for the next couple cycles.. i just dont think i cld risk not O'ing and then having to take progesterone pills to bring af on etc. I had a 3-4 month break from it after my m/c so hopefully that was enough rest for my body!
And porsche no i didnt have a natural cycle after af.. i probly shld have tho. After 10 wks of nothing happening after m/c i took progesterone pills, bled very lightly for 2 days about a week later, assumed it was af, took clomid, but then got the proper af during what was meant to be O time. I think my body was just saying to me 'Let me do what i gotta do!' It was also during that time that I drove 500ks to get to DH when he was away at work cos i cldnt let a chance pass me by.. but ended up bleeding the whole time! Defintely my body telling me to just go with the flow!
I actually think i cld have pcos or atleast pco.. i have only had 4 proper afs since going off the bcp in may 09!! I had an ultrasound done which came back saying i most likely had it but then wen i saw my gyno he said my hormone levels were all fine and its really hard to tell with the scan.. so i have no idea! Oh well ill just keep plodding along hoping for the best!
Welcome Reet, hope you find the information you need. I can't really offer any advice as i am only on my second round of clomid! So im still a newbie at this! Lol!
Tammara - Bubs should be born on Nov 9th, thats when all the cool people are born!! Me, Delta Goodrem! Lol! And i mean, i am pretty awesome! hahahahahaha!
Keli - How did your scan go? Any extra digits??
Porshe - I don't know much about what you are going through (obviously) but sending you a big hug and FX that you get a few more follies when it comes down to it.
Everyone else!!! How are you all??
Sorry if i missed you other ladies! I have been out of action atm because im tying up a few loose ends at work. I have tomorrow and the next day off as im going up to victor harbour to visit a friend. Well surprise her actaully! She is 32 weeks pregnant and has an "irritable uterus" so her body has tried many a times to evict her little bub! The doctors have managed to keep him in, and they wanted to make the 32 week mark, which they have! So now its just a waiting game to see when the baby will be born. Her mum is throwing her a hasty baby shower and called me, so as i mentioned, im going to surprise her! I had a dream last night that i surprised her so much she went into labour! so hoping that doesn't happen!!
Anyway, i can't remember what CD im on atm because i have stopped temping and counting days, done wonders for my stress levels! Last night i had some strong pains in my ovaries so DH got jumped! lol! But im thinking i will O on friday or saturday! So it will be a dash back from victor to get to hubby! LMAO!
Anyway, time for me to go! I will pop back in this arvo and do proper persies!!
No way Miss Kris i would rather her born before her due date as long as she is born between November 1 & 12 i will be happy - thats when we have our accommodation booked for so she better cooperate with us for a change
How did you go with your needles porsche?? hope your not too much like a pin cussion
Keli - Awesome news, I am so glad that your scan went really really well, I hope you can relax and enjoy the rest of your PG. How aweful re: the horror stories, doesn't help your state of mind :-( Just remember those scenarios are rare. Half way now hun!!
Porsche - 6 follies is pretty good. Two of the girls I know who have done IVF finished with 6 follies and of them they both had one perfect one (went on to conceive beautiful babies) as someone said all you need is one perfect one. Good luck with the rest of your cycle, I hope you get your BFP this month.
Kris - I am so glad to hear you sound so relaxed. I think giving cycling, temping etc a break is a really good idea, I think that when you least expect it that BFP will bite you!! Enjoy your couple of days away, the break will probably be good for you too and I am sure your friend will be soooo pleased to see you!
Bec - How are you going hun? I hope that you are doing OK. I think it was you that asked the question about IVF and egg quality. I think they only pick the best follicles to fertilize. I don't know a lot about IVF but I am pretty sure that's how it works, so presumably if you are concerned about egg quality IVF would definitely be really good for you. Don't want to preach, but maybe you should try kakadu juice too.. I think this stuff is amazing and could really help with egg quality...
Jules - I am sure it will be a bit before you are back on this forum regularly, but I just want you to know we are here and you are on our minds. I know this is an aweful time for you and we will be here for you when you are ready to come back. Big hugs babe!
Shan - How are you doing hun? I know that last week was tough for you too, I hope you are travelling OK.
Clamgee - Any news on your side?? I have my fingers crossed for another positive
Liz - Has AF showed up yet? I hope so
Ris - Sorry to hear about your brothers friend :-( Has AF arrived yet?
Reet - Big welcome, I hope your stay here is short. These girls are such an amazing group of women, so strong and thoughtful and will certainly help you with your journey as there is so much friendship and support in this thread. FX that this is your cycle. I think re: the number of cycles you just need to make your own mind up as to how many you should do - My endo said he only wanted me to do 6 cycles as being on the drug long term can be detrimental to your health i.e. can cause cancer (but my endo said that this mainly happened in countries like USA where it is un-reggulated and there is women taking it for 15 years)... But I think that you just need to do your research and see for yourself. Seems like it does work for you (since you got a BFP on the second month) so FX for a sticky bub!
Hope - How are you going hun? How far along now?
I am sorry if I missed anyone, I had a great weekend in Brisbane, it was sooooo nice and warm - a stark contrast to windy cold rainy Sydney...!!
Sorry I haven't been on more - had a busy few days at work and just relaxed in front of the t.v last night.
Went to the FS yesterday & it was a strange appt. We were suppose to go there & have a brief chat about superovulation & IUI (SO/IUI) with the FS then have an appt with the nurses to go through the injections etc.... BUT I mentioned the m/c he sent me off to have a whole heap of blood taken for full bloods & Beta HPT. He did an internal examination, which confirmed my cervix was closed & the u/s showed everything was 'normal' (I knew that from last week!). He said that there is no evidence of a pg! I nearly fell off the examination table - ummmm I know I was pg & I know I m/c! Anyway he wants all these bloods to come back to decide what we are to do - he also heads the recurrent m/c area in Monash Clayton & may send us for testing. Of course we expressed our concerns about doing SO/IUI and m/c to which he replied that the egg quality is better than 'natural'??? So we have counselling next week then suppose to have an appt with the nurses but are seeing him on the 16th August as well, so am going to clarify if we should see the nurses or just wait til after seeing him - so long & drawn out & confusing atm.... feel like we are going backwards! Anyway sorry for that rant/vent!
Rhi - What a very strange visit. What makes him think you were not UTD? The better egg quality could have something to do with all the meds you take while cycling but I'm not 100% sure on that.
I would be very confused with that appointment as well. Most clinics ask you to see the nurse before you see your FS and start any treatment. I think it's so they can go over the treatments and make sure you understand what is involved. We had to do that. I think it's standard procedure. We don't have to do counceling in QLD.
We I mean I still have lots of B/T's lol. But our first visit consisted of lots of B/T's. I think I had about 6 vials taken lol.
Tammara - I too have found the bruising to be random. Appart from my dirty big one I have 2 little ones oh and another dirty big one on my arm where the FS took blood. It's a doosey too.
Oh yes Tammara, that rings a bell. So why are you considered high risk? Is it cos it’s an IVF bub? Great price on the accommodation, that is awesome. It will be nice for you to have DH with you also.
Thanks Pumpgirl, yeah we are very excited to be half way now, yippee!!! Thanks for the reassurance. Lol, you preaching about your Kakadu Juice, this stuff must be amazing, he he!
Jules, I couldn’t agree with Pumpgirl anymore, we all miss you and are here for you anytime you are ready to come back. Oh yippee, you just came back as I was writing this post. Wow what a very strange app, totally not sure what to think!
Pumpgirl, nice post but I wanted an update on you? How far along? Are you having a scan soon? Any symptoms? Do tell all!
Ris- sorry to hear about your brother's best friend. That's aweful. I hope you and your family are ok. Hopefully AF has turned up by now (or you've got a BFP!).
Porsche- good luck for your appointment tomorrow. How are you feeling? no signs of OHSS I hope. KUP
Hi everyone else, hope you're all travelling well!
Just popped in to check up on you all, so sorry to hear your loss rhi - hopefully the drs can pin point what seems to be going on with you and give you a better chance to keep your bubbas xxoo
Me, Delta Goodrem! Lol! And i mean, i am pretty awesome! hahahahahaha!
so hoping that doesn't happen!!
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