LTTTC after Miscarriage and Loss

Thanks Alice X
The crinone pessaries won't affect the test, and I did not have any triggers that would affect the test either, so I'm pretty excited, but have to controll myself untill Monday XX Beta Monday XX

Hi all.

Just wanted to say :clap: :dance: :loveshower::happyforyou::hooray:
to you murraycod .

I have been praying for this to happen since I met you on the IUI thread.
You have been so absolutley wonderful to so many people and so supportive and kind.

To all the other ladies on here lets hope that this is the begining of many more BFP's.

I will properly introduce myself and do personals later as I have to go music with DD.

Again Murray cod CONGRATULATIONS.

Yay MurrayCod I knew it LOL!!!!!!!

Murraycod :hug:

:happyforyou:

Congratulations gorgeous !!!

:leap:

(when you get your results i will celebrate some more but for now i will stay calm !)

xoxoxo

Congratulations Murraycod ( you should always listen to your mum well your cyber mum anyways ) seems my pep talk was the right advice oh I so love to be right !!!!!!
Yay for you now take it easy its a long road ahead but you are at the starting line now you have to stay calm and work your way up the next 36wks or so its not going to be easy but it is POSSIBLE IF you beleive in yourself !!!

Congratulations my dear friend I said you could get a BFP before me and now its my turn !!!! ( well sure hope so anyway )

Hi ladies,

Murrycod i emailed you at home i will talk to you some more later i am having a hard time at the moment i am reallllllllllllllllllllllly P#SSED off at my old FS.
How do i explain in the short version all our fertility test came back all normal good fertility sperm count ect. after the PGD as you know we decided to try the natural way and i spoke to my old FS about my concerns with my FSH level anyway she said all is good DH sperm is great so she sees no problem why we wont be pregnant in a few months.
Well todays FS looked at all the results went through me first.
Ovaries-excellent
Follicle numbers-excellent
IVF response-great
Fertilisation-excellent
Basicly she said i am perfect and the FSH if around the same level next BT is no indication of my fertility as i have heaps of follicles and responded really well to a low dose of puregon that she sees no problem with me i am to have another U/S on day 7 of this cycle just to check my uterus after Abbi's birth.
Then she got to DH.
Sperm test.
Quantity-fabulous 477 million above average.
Wash test-excellent.
Motiliy-excellent.
PH level perfect.
Colour-perfect
Morpology-She stops and says the normal ratio of normal heads of sperm is 15% or more DH has 4% that are normal the tails ect are in the normal range so basicly she said 95% of DH sperm have abnormal shaped heads and they would most likely not penetrate my eggs so out of the 477 million great strong swimming sperm only 4% are any good to get me prgenant WTF!! we were told his seman test was perfectly normal the FS said we can get pregnant naturally but it could take a while so we just wasted another 6 months and all for nothing and this whole time i have been worried it is me that is the problem why would they tell us he sperm is great when it is not?
She did say it is caused by lifestye and can be corrected.
So i am booked in to see the nurse on the 3rd of june and then we wait for my next AF ( not the one due now) and hope they can fit me in if not then it will be the end of july AF.
As for the genetic issue they were great and said lets get you pregnant quick so we can test this next baby.
I am going to google sperm morphology and see for myself what is suppose to be normal

Hi girls-have been MIA from other threads but plan to join this one, just lurking at the mo cos I broke my computer (accidently smashed the LCD screen:redface:) and have to wrestle dh to get on his computer until mines fixed, but just snuck in to say:

(quietly and calmly):leap:

YAY Murrycod!!:happyforyou:

good on you lovely lady, keep calm and positive, and good luck monday, saffy xx

p.s. sorry to hear that ferals, you must be furious at the first FS

Murrycod CONGRATULATIONS :D:D:D OMG this is soooo exciting the first BFP on our new thread. So happy for you babe. Take it easy.

Ferrals - How hugely frustrating, I can't believe they told you everything was perfect before. OMG though, 477 million is huge. Even with 4% thats 20 million good sperm which is more than many men manage. I hope they can get you in quickly and get those good sperms working.

OMG Murraycod. I can't believe I only just came into this thread. I am so excited for you and I so knew those cramps must have been a bubba making a nest :leap: :leap: CONGRATULATIONS will save the huge bit for when you announce it. Maybe the clinic was not so pleased as your BT isn't due yet. But what the h-ll I couldn't wait either if it were me. Gee I have a job to get to 10DPO before POAS. So excited for you.

Ferrals Oh dear I can't believe the FS didn't mention anything before now. Gee I'd be ****ed of also. Maybe have your DH start a sperm diet now as results can drastically improve in a few months if its caused by lifestyle. I still have the box of menevite I brought for my DH from over a year ago thats still not finished as apparently his SA is fine although I know its not. Grrr its so frustrating. I still think some FS especially male ones work on the co.ck theory (of blame the woman) I hope you get some answers soon and another BFP. It is so frustrating. Makes me wonder even if we get another baby if the damaged caused from this will ever be repaired. Seems to add scars so deep that I wonder if we will ever heal. Arrrr why is it so hard when its so easy for most people?

Thank you girls, you have all been my rock through all of this, I would not have been as sane without you all, (have had my hissy fitts shared too X)
It does not feel real yet, has not sunk in. I guess you all sadly know how quickly things can change, so I am very apprehensive about this.
I will get Monday done with, to know my beta will give me more confidence I'm sure, but there is still a road ahead of me yet.
I am throwing a party on the inside, but have my poker face on still.

Love you all, I know you won't mind me hanging out for a bit here X

Thanks to the Mod's for making this new forum, there is a close family here, and it feels safe X:clap:

Ferrals, thanks for the email, talk to you after X

Mildez, thanks for your encouraging words as of late, it really did help X Roll on Monday!

Sunbeam, Darling we have known eachother for quite a while now, and there have been so many upps and downs in-between, honey thank you so much for being so strong, I have looked up to you through many of your journeys, you are one tough girl X
If you do decide to get this biopsy done, I say 'you go girl', yes it hurts, but hey, for 10seconds max, your tough anyway, dunno why I'm worried!!XXXX And if you do head to the IVF road, honey, hold on for the ride, it ain't that bad X

:D Saffy, thanks sweetheart! XXXXX Love to you, and will be constantly keeping an eye on how you are X

Crafty MUM, I never thaught id be able to ever share this day with so many lovely friends here, and you, you have given me such gracefull advice and your encouraging PM's ...well, they are my favorites!! Thank you for being there through all of this X

Jilly, Wow, I remember when we first met in the IUi thread, was pretty quiet in there hey!?
Thank you so much for your support, from the beginning, I appreciate it very much, and hope to be congratulating you soon one day. Please do join this thread, I have never met such a great bunch of girls in my life, to share this journey with X

Alice, I totally LMFAO about your buiscuit comment in the other thread!!!! Oh to laugh again!!
This will be you next month, I know it, and I am going to be there for you every single day through this, just as promissed, not too long to go now XXX
And thanks, for just being a friend too, it has been great that we now know eachother, and will keep in touch X I will be lurking and supporting you every step of the way X

Porche, Sevie, Trea, love to all of you girls, I hope I don't annoy anyone if I hang around a bit more untill I feel confident about this XXXXX

Ferrals sorry to burden you but I have just emailed you I need some advice !

To you other ladies I am not having a good time I got intouch with another FS to see if I can get some help at 45 and basically they told me 1% chance of a live birth at my age and thats if I manage to get UTD !

I think my time on here will be coming to an end sorry ladies ! I have to deal with this news !

Crafty- i emailed you!

Sunbeam-when you put it that way it does seem better the FS did say we can still get pregnant naturally it might just take time.
Time we dont have.
Thanks i feel a bit better.

Murrycod- i emailed you also couldnt talk to much DH and i just had a huge fight he is devo at his sperm not being so good i will tell him what sunbeam said hope that helps.

I have googled heaps.
For instance, Sydney IVF consider between 2-5% normal morphology to be normal, whereas some clinics using a different grading system consider anything over 15% to be normal.

If motility, volume and count is all good, which his is great then we should still be able to get pregnant we fell pregnant easy with Abbi and he had the sperm test done in august last year when still smoking he has been on coq10 and menevit and chinese herbs since september last year and not smoked for ages so i think if he did a repeat test it could be better now and the FS didnt want him retested so i asume she is not worried i am just so down in the dumps what else do we have to endure before we have a baby,
A loss at 19.5 weeks.
Hospital accidently destroying Abbi's only birth photo's
A 1 in 4 chance of our next baby having a genetic condition
Failure at PGD IVF our one good embryo effected.
The government removing medicare rebate to help with PGD cost's
And now DH has a morphology issue.
When is our luck going to change.

O O O O OMG Murraycod Congrats!!!! I am over the moon for you. Bring on triple numbers for your beta Monday.

So stoked!!

Cheers

Oh Ferrals I'm so sorry about your news. I agree with your comment about different clinics having different gradings. It make sit all so hard. Surely they could extract the good sperm and go from there? I'm sorry I can't be of much help. I'm not quite up to all the sperm morf stuff as yet.

MurrayCod I would love to hear of your updates. Gives me a little hope.

Crafty :hug: I don't know what else to say.

AF-here right on Q day 27 i am going MIA for a few days to spend some quality time with DH we need to rethink this whole baby thing i am worried it is effected our marriage and we both are crazy about each other i wont let this come between us i can feel the stress and tention and our fabulous sex life has turned into DTD on Q timing BDing making a schedule for sex.
My man is more important to me i will be back just need a few days.

Crafty - so sorry :comfort:

Ferrals4 - I'm so very sorry you are having such a hard time right now. I know that this LTTTC thing is a hard road of us all but I must say that anyone who has suffered a late loss and can even manage to get out of bed each day is just such an inspiration to me. My sister lost her little girl at 38 weeks and her strength and resilience just astounds me to this day. They were lucky to have a beautiful 2 year old girl at the time but she had to have a partial hysteroctomy (spelling??) so no more children for them and the way they handled it, with such dignity, inspires me.

She, you and so many of the women here who have been through losses like this deserve to have only great things happen in their lives. I wish you the very best.

Cheers Trea