LTTTC after Miscarriage and Loss

Hi ladies,
Just a quickie i emailed my old FS with my concerns on DH sperm here is her reply.

HI Sandra



Sydney Andrology use WHO strict criteria- normal in our lab is 2-6%. So perfectly normal.



Regards
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ferrals I know how hard it is but its just statistics My DH had only 1million sperm on a count and after washing and so on well it was hardly anything, We did IUI with donor in the end BUT later 3yrs later we concieved my daughter,then my son and then we went on and on so something changed , I know he would never have such agood count as your DH so try not to worry, You know I think half our trouble is we TRY TOO MUCH ! I know we do and its not good all this waiting and trying and wondering why it doesn't happen I am the same constantly thinking about it and now begining to doubt my DH and his count too !

WELL I DID IT THANKS TO YOU FERRALS,
Well I did some soul searching and had a good chat with DH ( well I was in tears beside myself sniffling you know the usual,can't cope with this anymore ) Anyhow I had spoken to A clinic in North Perth and they agreed to see me even though i am 45 my past history of having kids helped I think, anyway my referal letter has been sent by my GP and I have an appointment on the 17th June to see them, so fingers crossed they will be able to help me get UTD don't care what I have to do or take just know I have to give it a real good shot before I give up and my inside voice is saying I can do this I just need a bit of help as my time is running out monthly !
I know its a long shot but hey none of my kids have ever come to me easily so this next one will just be that bit more difficult to acheive but I will do it !

Murraycod great news about the darker line I knew you could do it !

My lovely ladies,
What a roller coaster this all is!!

Crafty - So glad you are not leaving or giving up, well done for sticking to your guns and finding someone to help. I will have everything crossed for your appt on them 17th.

Ferrals - I know I keep coming back to it and I don't mean to keep harping on but if the morphology is really what is stressing you out and you think is stopping you getting pg then IUI really might be the answer as DH's sperm will be washed all you'd be left with are the good ones. As I said thats 20million great little swimmers (which is 14-17 million more than I ever get and a gjillion more than Crafty was getting and managed to make heaps of babies from!) I do totally agree though your relationship has to come first and i know it is strong so you will get through what ever you both decide.:hug:

Murrycod - do not think you are getting away that easily!!!! If I get to IVF I won't just be holding on for the ride I'll be looking to you to hold my hand every step of the way. ;) Good luck for your betas, sounds like you got a tough little snuggler in there . I've decided to ask not to be told mine next time so I can't obsess about them.

Hello lovelies,

MurryCod - thanks for your lovely post - you made me feel so welcome in the other thread, I will always be grateful you have such a kind and gentle way, it's been great sharing this time with you even with all the ups and downs. I hope your BETAs are awesome on Monday! You've given me some confidence to POAS when I do my next go - I've never had the courage to do it and I wish I'd done it last time just to have that stick that said PREGNANT! I know you have lots in front of you but you can do it, like Crafty said, one step at a time and looking forward to being able to do the proper big cheer for you Monday.

Crafty - so proud of you for being proactive! I feel exactly the same - you just have to do everything you can so if it doesn't happen, you know you've done your best. I really can't see why it wouldn't happen for you - your cycles are much better now, you're being careful with your diet and like you said, you've been through plenty of hard times with your other babies and there was a time you thought you might not have any so I think you're going to get your bub, I really do!!

Ferrals - agghh - soo frustrating! The TCM I'm seeing says that most of the time the clinics don't pay enough attention to mens sperm (like Mildez said - the co.ck theory) and that a lot goes undetected (she only trusts SIVF for sperm analysis). BUT, great that your DH has so many good swimmers!! And you have both been addressing lifestyle issues so hopefully that will be much improved by now. Agree you need to look after your relationship number 1 priority - no matter what else, you have each other and that's a blessing you have to protect.

Mildez - just wanted to give you a cyber hug. You've been through a lot already but you'll get through this and while some things will always hurt I hope you won't have any scars you can't heal

Trea - that was a lovely post and I couldn't agree more. Your sister and BIL sound like amazing people. Thank goodness they had their DD but that will never take away their sorrow at not being able to have a sister or brother for that little one I know.

Sunbeam, Porsche, Saffy (yah, you found us), Jahazra, Jilly, Sevie - hello to you lovely women.

x

Morning girls,

Crafty-Good to here you are sticking around like i said before the docs give you a 1% chance of getting UTD but that is statistics we know of plenty of women over 45 who get pregnant we all have friends of friends over 40 pregnant and we all have stories of older women pregnant over 45 so you will be one to add to those stories.
And to be honest with you if it doesnt work at least you know you gave it your very best shot if you didnt try you would always be saying to yourself WHAT IF! and would have regrets the rest of your life so good luck for the 17 of june.

Sunbeam-I asked about IUI but the FS said with our genetic issue she wants us pregnant A.S.A.P so we can get bub tested quick because if it is effected and we have to terminate and try again we need to let my uterus settle down after a D&C and that can take a month or two so she wont do another cycle straight after a termination so she wants to hurry things up which is good for me.

Alice-DH has started taking sperm max now LOL.

AFM-well i looked into it a bit more and after DH sperm was washed he was still left with 117 million and 93% motiliy so i guess that is why they are not concerned and SIVF go's by statistics and they said DH is spot on normal with all the sperm testing they do and have done over the years my new FS just said it would take us a bit longer to fall pregnant naturally so i am not going to worry to much just cross fingers they can get me into my IVF cycle at the end of june come on the 22nd and pray my E2 nad FSH are good.
Be back later.

Thanks for the support Ladies,
I really appreciate it as with me being on the older side sometimes I wonder if I am asking the impossible then I remember after my son was born via IUI with donor sperm my gynae said ( don't bother with contraception there is no chance of getting pg naturally ) well we had 7 kids starting 3yrs after that was said to me and we were both 30 by then !!! Miracles do and can happen and I am asking for just one more but because I can't afford to mess around for another 6mnths I decided to try get some help now while I still have a chance. My worst fear is I have tests and they say sorry no more eggs but I feel if I am still having regular cycles then surely I have some left

Alice thanks so much for considering me when you thought of your SIL it really helped me make my decision and get my arse into gear so thanks for that,

Ferrals as always full of good advise and its so nice for someone to take the time to think what they would do if they were me so thanks for that, and I am sure your luck is about to change you will get UTD quickly and with a un affected bub and have a long happy and healthy pregnancy I just feel it !

Sunbeam did you ask about your NK test yet I think you need to with what happened you got pg quite easily I think so maybe like murraycod all you need now is the antibiotics seemed to work for murray !!

Lastly Murraycod how you feeling? bit scared I guess over mondays BT got it in your head something is wrong ah I know what you must be going through but you have to remember what I said last month about the light at the end of the tunnel well my dear yours is there and only 35 wks or so away how exciting I just know you will be ok !!

Must go now school run to do and the cupboards are bare !!! must be friday again !!!!

Speak soon !

Ferrals fingers crossed you will start jabbing away in June!!!! I have a good feeling about the new FS you have, good on you for being proactive with this new news XXX

Crafty, hang in there, I know you have the strength too X

Alice, thanks XX You have been a great support holding my hand through this XX

I feel great today, no cramping...nothing! Just feel like there is a grain of rice or something stuck in my uterus but thats about it!!!! Have been drowning myself drinking so much water to hold off OHSS, and think it has finally worked, now just need to get Monday over with and I can start to enjoy a bit more!

back to work for me tomorrow night, am going to have to concentrate on taking it easy, and not lifting anything/anyone heavy. I don't wan't to tell any of the girls at work, but I think it is going to be completely obviouse when I'm not the crazy workaholic zooming around doing everything like I normally do.

ooooooh Murray Cod, it all sounds very positive! When I was preg I remember insisting that my AF was coming several days before the BT was due...The HPT came back + and the AF feelings carried on the whole time- 12 wks! good luck good luck good luck good luck!

Thanks Alice for your positive pick-me-up. I sososo hope the same happens for me, but i can't help but quietly dispair at the thought that it won't. It's so exhausting isn't it!! (in my head more than my body!)

To all the other lovely souls on the thread, a hello and a huge hug to you all.

It's very quiet in here ladies - the other thread exploded while I was away but not much happening here. Hope you are all well and just enjoying some down time or busy with fun things.

Sevie - It's hard not to despair when you've been through disappointment and heartache - I hope everything works out for you with your DIVF - where are you up to?

AFM, While I'm trying my best to do everything I can, and mostly keeping positive, I feel like I will never be a mum and it breaks my heart. I feel like my time has passed. It's just hard to stay hopeful. And somehow much easier to be hopeful and positive for others than for myself because I am so used to everything not working out. But feeling very tired from a weekend in Melbourne for my niece's 1st birthday so maybe I'll feel better tomorrow after a good sleep. She is such a little sweetie, I feel lucky to have another niece after all these years but wish the family gatherings could be ours for a change.

night everyone - hope you dream good dreams x

Hi Ladies

MurrayCod - Good luck for your BETA today. I think we know what the outcome is.

Alice - I know exactly how you feel. I had a meltdown on Saturday and I told DH I wasn't doing any more meds and I was over the whole thing. That was short lived. It's very hard to stay positive when all you get is disapintment after disapointment. I've been on clomid for 8 cycles now and all I have to show for it is a M/C. I know in the end we will get there but it's so emotional. I guess I've written this cycle off already because I know that we'll be starting IVF very soon. If my IVF FS had been back 1 week earlier we would be doing it now. He's back this week a week early but I miss out by 1 day lol. Ahh well June 20th will be here soon enough.

Murraycod just wanted to pop in and say yeah for it finally been Monday. Praying hard your Beat's are fantastic which we all know they will be from your POAS's!

Ferrals thats fantastic motility and a great number when your DHs swimmers were washed. Hope your next BFP is just around the corner.

Sorry about the lack of personals I have hardly had any sleep. I feel so blurr.

Hey girls,

It must be the week for meltdowns i had one last night told DH no more i just cant handle anymore bad luck and disapointment i feel like if we didnt decide to have a baby together we would not have lost Abbi and gone through this whole nightmare and we wouldnt have broken hearts that we are desperately trying to fix it has been two years since we made the decision to have a baby and here we are broken hearted and desperate for some sort of normality to return to out lives.
But i also feel blessed to be a mum of three beautiful boys and being here having met you ladies brings home that there is ladies out there that will never be a mum so today i will stop feeling sorry for myself and keep going.

Murrycod-bring on the twins!

MurryCod - looking forward to your post today :)

Just popping in to wish Murraycod all the very best for today :hug:

Thinking of you !

xoxo

Just lurking to see how Murraycod's doing :) Bring on the beta's!

Murrycod- you should know by now you are killing me with suspence!!!!!!

Me too!!! xxoo

Lol:rofl: