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Alice-thanks i feel better.
Sunbeam-lol ok i am back to not giving a rats rahzoo!
Murrycod- LOL you stalker i miss you sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much.
Hi Sunbeam
Yeah I stalk the FF pregnancy charts too lol. The problem is I don't have 60 something days to wait and hope for the best lol. That's a whole extra month! I'm tired of waiting now we need to be more pro active. If Af hasn't come by the end of next week then I wil ask for something. I'll mention it on Tuesday when we see Dr De Ambrosis and see what he has to say. Can't we just hit the fast forward button?????
Porsche, I'm with you on that!! I think we'd all like to hit it, right now!!! Less than a week to go for your appointment
Sunbeam, you have a good day too
Ferrals, phew!
Love to everyone x
oh, i haven't been on the forums much for a while, and just noticed this thread...this is where I think I fit now
Hello to you all!
murraycod- good luck for your scan! It's so scary I understand.
We have just resumed trying, after an enforced year long break due to my Graves Disease ...we plan trying naturally for the rest of this year, and if no miracle, but to IVF for us.
AF is due in about 5 days...I am 10DPO and caved and did a HPT today....only one line. I know it's early, but I just dont think anything has happened this time round.
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Hahaha Knowing my luck I'd hit the self distruct button by mistake. Yay 6 days to go whoo hoo. getting abit excited now it so so close.
Hi Possums Welcome!! Wow how did you handle a 12 month break. I can't stand the thought of 1 month break. Hopefully you are here for a short time and you get your miracle!
Hello T hopes so glad you found us !!!:D it was getting so disheartening on the other thread meeting people for a month and then seeing BFPs and none of them ours ( well except Murraycod and we all know she deserved hers she been in there longer than most of us ) So glad you had your procedure and you have some answers now and well you are going to be lucky now you all cleaned out so to speak so FX its your BFP real soon !
Sunbeam oh how long is this TWW still only day 10 for me too and my apt tomorow so no point testing its too early for me and well not going to think about it anymore till next week ( yes right if only that was true ! )
anyway FX for your BFP and hopefully I get some good news and worthwhile info tomorow.
MURRAYCOD :hello: missed you babe so sorry your still so scard about your scan ( I would be too as your going to see TWINS !!!! ) and I have no desire to push out 2 babies on the same day !!!! No seriously you will be ok its natural to think your not going to get your happy ending but you know what you will get it you really will ! remember what I told you miracles do happen and happy endings too !
Ferrals well for someone whos not thinking about things this month you sure are stressing !!!!! give up girl and give yourself a break be kind to yourself your peeing sounds interesting !!!!
I really feel for you thinking about your decision with Abbie but you know what you did the right thing what else could you have done but just prolong the inevitable and that would have been so much worse for you and her, so you are one strong lady who did the best she could for her little girl and I take my hat off to you for being so strong !!! now please be kind to yourself ! we are all here for you and we all know your BFP well its just around the corner !!!
Possum welcome we are a mad bunch on here but give each other the support we all need !
Alice how you doing ? hope your thinking good thoughts today not dud ones !!!
Matthews mum FX your transfer is nearly here hope your 1st embie defrosts ok and snuggles in nicely !
afm well filled out all my forms phew had to do a stupid table on the pc and fill out all the boxs with pg and mc info
anyway wrote a cover letter too on our history so they can have that on file as I might just forget some vital info so made sure the whole story is all down on paper ! will let you know tomorow how it went !!! ( I am sooo nervous feels sick to my stomach with worry !!!):sick:
OMG I'm freaking out :jawdrop: I got so bored of the TWW that I went to the chemist at lunch time and bought 3 more tests (have 3 at home already) and went to the shop toilets. Hello! Its only 11dpo and its midday!!! I was just so desperate to POAS and :bfp:!!!!!!!!! I did another one an hour later to check it wasn't a false positive but that one was positive too. I know it is too early to be excited, I'm not even 4 weeks till sunday. I wonder how long this one will stick around?
Omg sunbeam you did it without me i was just thinking of doing the same before my apt tomorow but my sticks are ebay cheapies and i don't trust them tell me what sort did you buy !!!
I am so pleased for you my god girl you did it and my fx this is the one and i follow you soon !!!
OMG Sunbeam!!!!!!!!! I dunno what else to say lolololol!!!!
Sunbeam !!!
:happyforyou:
Thats wonderful news !
xoxoxo
Thanks girls just had to share even though it is so early. I have them both in my hand bag, keep looking at them its not real to me yet.
Crafty - it was First Response early result tests the pee on ones not the dip ones (not sure there's much difference). I so hope its a good result for you in the morning too.
Woohoo Sunbeam yeah! So exciting.
OMG sunbeam, sending you heaps of sticky vibes!!
crafty, I would go and buy the first respons early detector....as I was using the cheap internet ones and thay gave me a false negative and like sunbeam the first response early detector gave me a positive result mid afternoon....good luck tomorrow will be thinking of you
:stickyvibesboy::stork-boy:sunbeam!!!!!:stork-girl::stickyvibesgirl:
:happyforyou: Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!! Well done girl!!! That's made my night!!!! xxxooo:p
OK now for the not so happy post:
My SIL wants to call me tonight...oh ****, I know what they are ringing for. How can anyone get pg on IVF on their first (aged 44) AND second (aged 45) go? I don't think that even counts as IVF frankly.
:protest: I don't want to talk to them. I don't want to know :protest:
I really, honestly, can't deal with it. I just can't. Can someone please give me some strategies to deal with the call so I can be a loving sister and not the ogre I feel like right now :( :( :(
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Oh and Crafty, good luck tomorrow xx
Alice I am so sorry your having a hard time dealing with you SIL and I guess you may be right about the news the best advice I can offer is to write down on a piece of paper exactly how you feel all the swear words the works and read it out loud a few times and get it out you system, then when the phone rings you can say the nice things you know you should say !!! I know its really hard as I myself had to listen to my son tell me his new wife was UTD after trying for 2 months and I had mc 6 mnths earlier. But I was glad for them and had to tell myself they will be happy for me when I eventually get pg again in the future!! So Alice be strong take a deep breath and be calm and look on the bright side she is older than you and you have just as much chance of getting it right 1st time when you go for your IVF next month !!! after all your hard work and your chinese meds your turn will come !
Thanks Iona I am not even going to bother testing if they want to test tomorow then they can but I am only 9-10 DPO so not really in with a chance anyway even though my boobs feel sore today and I keep feeling nauseas think its just nerves I have been reading up all afternoon on fertility of women age 45 and its not good think I am wasting my money tomorow stupid old fool that I am !
Hi Ladies
Alice - I really have no advise on how to take that phone call. I bet your heart is beating at a million times a minute. What an extremely difficult thing to do. All the best.
Oh Crafty your not a silly old fool. If you are then we all are.
You'll never guess what I just got ........... I just got a + OPK! It's CD26 for god sake! So that means I'm going to O on CD28. God what a loooooooong cycle this is. I'm going to O when most get their AF!!! I was only peeing on a stick because I have about 30 of the buggers. I hopped in the shower with DH and when we got out I got the shock of my life. And no ladies there was no hanky panky in the shower :shakehead: lol. We'll do that tonight ;)
Sunbeam thats wonderful news! Congratulations! Praying everything goes perfectly for you for a happy & healthy 9 mths!
Thanks all for the warm welcome to this thread! Yeh was getting very disheartened being in there for so long and so many popping in briefly, getting a bfp and leaving... was hard! Feels much more comfy in here cause you all understand thats its not just the loss thats hard, but the wait to get a bfp again is just as torturous!
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Sunbeam, sorry to have posted a grumpy post right after your happy news. I hope you and DD are celebrating tonight!!
Crafty, thanks for your advice - I remember you going through that with your son. I ended up emailing her back that I would be out for the night and would ring in a few days when I can get my head around it. Like Porsche said, you are so not an old silly fool so don't go in there with that going through your head. And just because I'm feeling upset about my SIL doesn't mean I don't hope you get UTD first time with IVF at 45!
Well AF has decided to grace me with her presence so I'm going to go to bed.
Night all x
Sorry Porsche - that's great you are about to 'o' - get to it!!
Sunbeam-woohoo! i am so happy for you now lets hope this little bugger sticks but what i want to know is HOW THE HELL DO YOU DO IT when donnor daddy had such a low sperm count you have something going on some secret so come on share! lol just kidding.
HI lovely ladies, I am still lurking and trying to catch up when I can, haven't had the time to post but will try and be more regular!
Firstly-:dance::dance:to Sunbeam ( I know you don't know me but I have been a lurker in the threads since last year and have seen what a difficult journey you have had), even though its early it must be strong to show up like that, sticky vibes to you xx
Alice- there is no way I could have taken that phone call and I would be putting it off for months, maybe ask her to email you? I'm a wimp, hope you manage it, I have no advice sorry!! xxx
Craftymummy- good luck with your appt today, hope your FS is nice and supportive
Ferrals-hope the peeing is a symptom of something good! When are you doing IVF?
Porsche- thats a long cycle alright but at leat you are still in with a chance, and haven't missed it. I hope this is a lucky month for you, it is depressing seeing so many people get bfps and we are all still waiting but we will get there! xx
T=Hopes- nice to see you again! Hope it is a short stay in here xx
Ionamacca- hey beautiful, I see in the other thread you are UTD!!! CONGRATULATIONS to you sweetie, what a nice surprise, wishing you a h&h pregnancy xxx
Possum- welcome to you , what a patient person you must be to wait a year, hope everything is sorted out now and you are on your way to a bfp xxx
Hi to everyone else sorry if I missed you but its hard to catch up, especial hugs to murrycod and her little codlet,
AFM- well FINALLY got some action with IVF, going to counselling next week then FS appt a few days after that so I can go on BCP that week and looking at IVF cycle in August. It sounds like a million years away but I an so happy to at last have something locked in. Can't still believe I have to do IVF but if thats what it takes! Also happy about my AF it has been much less painful and heavy recently with less spotting beforehand so I am thinking that muight be the acupuncture influence.
Also I turned 38 last a week ago so might just leave my signature at 37 for a little while longer so I feel younger hehe!
Possum, I'm sorry in all the excitement of Sunbeams news and my little hissy-fit yesterday, I missed welcoming you in here! Welcome!! I haven't heard of Graves Disease before but from what you wrote it sounds like it can be treated, is that right? A whole year must have been a hard wait and hopefully you won't need IVF but if you do, wishing you all the best with it. If you've been lurking then you know what a lovely bunch of women are in here - we've all been through a lot and everyone just understands how hard things can be so hope you find lots of support here.
Saffy! I wondered where you had gone! You've been MIA for a while now - glad to have you back and same as what I've just said to Possum, welcome and hope you feel supported here, I know I do! August will be here before you know it! None of us want to go down the IVF route if we can help it but it without it we'd be having quite a few less miracles so keep positive, it's not so bad once you start and I always get excited at the beginning because it means I might bring a baby home one day (no other way for me) and I hope it will mean that for you too! Yeah, I think a year waiting for that call would be good but after getting all worked up about it I just want them to be happy and new niece or nephew for me is only a good thing so I'll call Monday. I guess I'm a bit more mentally prepared now, thanks for understanding!
MurryCod - how are you doing?????????????????? We miss you in here x
Hello Ladies
I thought it was time for to post instead of just reading.
Sunbeam - I'm so happy for you and it's about time we had some good news in this thread. I always check my DH's bottle of menevit to make sure it's going down.
Alice - It doesn't get any easier does it. I have a friend that got pregnant around the same time as me and we haven't seen each other for a while. I've been too scared to ring her in case she tells me she's pregnant with her second. Another friend got pg her first time with IVF and it was in between my two failed cycles. She's about to give birth in 2 weeks.
Porsche - yay finally and opt +. Good luck catching the egg.
Welcome all the new people. Possums you're journey really touched my heart and I hope this ttc is fast and easy for you.
The 2WW is going a lot faster for me this month and I'm 3 days away from AF arriving this Sunday. I've been having the odd cramp and back pain on the left side as well as tingling boobs. It's strange because I never used to get any preAF symptoms until my IVF cycles with the Crinone and then the cycle were I was pg they came after AF was late. Now since the mc I get all the symptoms in the 2ww so I can't use them to detemine if I'm UTD. I've decided I'm not going to test until I'm very late, at least 5 days.
I had a look in the pg after loss thread to see how murraycod and Kitfaerie are doing. I hope we're all in there soon.
Ferrals - I have no idea I think I must just have very welcoming eggs (that's it, ****ty eggs:rofl:) :fertilise:
I think the 2 fertility statues my housemate bought me must have helped too (sure as hell wasn't Donor daddy's efforts!!)
Hi Saffy - Welcome. Yes I'm hoping too that the fact it showed up clearly so early that it might be a bit stronger than my other bubs.
HappyBaby and Alice - I 'm with you guys, pregnant freinds are harder to be around, once the bub arrives I have no trouble seeing them.
Alice I hope things went ok with the dreaded phone call with SIL or you could get out of it somehow inevidably.
Saffy glad the IVF is all steam ahead.
Sunbeam where are you going from here? I mean BT's, scans etc or are you going to avoid BTs til scan time?
Welcome to all the newbies. I don't post in here much. TBH I find it hard keeping up.
Ferrals, Crafty, happybaby and everyone else due to test in the coming week or so FX its a BFP for you all.
AFM had a cry this morning when my brother let me know my latest nephew is here. Its been so easy for them go off pill bang pregnant within 2weeks both times just over 12months apart and they plan on no4 straight away. Its so depressing. They have had 2 since we have been ttc and everything has gone so smoothly. Of course I don't wish them any bad luck but why is it so hard. SIL is late 30's and I've been infertile since 24! She has been a real cow about it also. To start with she always asked if I was pregnant yet, followed by a lecture how to get pregnant and lastest was not talking to me for 6months and then accusing me of been miserable and I should get over it. Easy for her to say when to me it seems she gets everything she wants. ***** *****, *****! And she told me her elective c/s was next week and she wasn't due until late next month when bro just said they have known for weeks he would be born today. Arrr so sorry for the *****. I am just so depressed I am still not pregnant and probably no closer to been so.
Mildez - Sorry you are upset but I do understnad especially when she is obviously such a cow. :comfort:I have just booked an appt with traditional chinese herbalists (a place I've been to before) to see if they can give me something to help this one stick. I had a dream about chinese herbalists helping me the other night that's what made me think of it. I am due for bt on monday but will not be finding out my HCG as I drove myself silly last time figuring out what my next level needed to be ect. Just going with the flow on this one.
Subeam, you are such a calm woman! Well, you come across as being very Zen about things. I think the TCM is a great idea - I'm very impressed with the one I'm seeing atm and I'm sure they can help plus acupuncture can help too I believe. I hope this little one is burrowing in and sticky fast - time for your earth baby as KitFaerie would say. Hope you have a happy and healthy pg and all goes well for you x
Mildez - I completely get what you are saying about your SIL and she sounds like a right cow. Some people just don't have any empathy whatsoever - things go so easy for them they can't understand why everyone can't just join in the circus of their self-celebrations. Big hugs to you - you have every right to cry and feel sad and I'm hoping that your turn will be very very soon x
Quick question.... we just got DH semen results... count was 62,000,000 BUT 92% of them were bad!! Do we have any hope?? Doc said he wasnt too stressed about it still feels we will conceive naturally but im really worried!!
Ferrals - any advice??
Thanks Alice and Sunbeam.
T-hopes I am quoting this out of the IVF book I have for Sydney IVF and it says conception rates generally start to fall once the morphology is lower then 15% normal forms. I remember ferrals writting a week or so ago (and please quote me ferrals and correct me if I am wrong) that her FS said something about 4-5% normal forms been normal. I certainly wouldn't class that as been normal (not saying it can't achieve a pregnancy by any means but) myself but if the FS said so then maybe it is. I know on my DH pathology sheet normal was defined as above 15% normal forms.
Do remember however that sperm can be increased with diet and lifestyle changes. And one SA is not enough to tell exactly what is going on in the "his" department. You could get one bodge result and the next few be great or alternatively the opposite where one result looks great but the rest is not so great. And a count of that is great also.
Thanks so much Mildez! I called my chinese doctor lady and she said it was bad so im really confused.... DH has never smoked, never even had a coffee in his life either... He has the odd social drink but really not much since January... He is a healthy weight and fit! Oh and has been on Menevit for 4 mths! I dont know what else he could possibly change! :(
and Mildez, sorry your having a hard time, she sounds awful! Its hard enough being around and hearing about pregnant ppl, let alone having a nasty one that rubs it in your face!! Really feeling for you xx
It sounds like your DH is doing all the right things. Perhaps he neds another test or two 3months from the last one to see if the results are the same or different. I haven't heard of any been the same there is usually quite a variation in each results. The Dr told me that some jobs are bad for the swimmers like driding alot as your sitting on the testes which over heats them. Maybe loose boxers, undies and not so hot showers and baths. Just a thought don't know if there are any evidence behind it. My DH is lowish with reduced motility and he has alot of hot showers. Ive often wondered the damage that could do to them.
T-hopes, I don't know much about the sperm side of things (am waiting to get the full pathology from DHs last test to take to my TCM practitioner to get her opinion) but did your DH abstain for a few days before the test? That's all I can think of. In IVF they always ask you to wait a few days so you get a good sample. Sorry I can't be more help. Ferrals did mention a new tonic/vitamin for men but I can't remember the name of it (Ferrals, do you remember mentioning it - I'd like to get DH onto it if you can recall the name) - my DH is on Menevit too but I've just noticed the bottle in the cupboard and he's away all this week...grrrr
Thanks Alice - yeah I think there is a new one called Sperm Max?? Going to see my TCM doc too and she will start him on herbs! And yeah he abstained for 4 days prior... so frustrating! Its one thing after another! Thank god I have you ladies that understand, i would go insane without you! xx
I really really appreciate your advice xx
Hi T-Hopes
My DH was on 2x zinc tablet, sml handful of goji berries, 1x folic acid tablet, 20ml aloe vera juice (which apparently tastes like cr@p) & 10x pumpkin seeds a day. He would take them at night time and then have dinner. Perhaps try that? But in saying that his SA was fine when the Gyn asked for a sample. This mix is a standard thing our IVF Dr asks his patients to be on.
He's still on the aloe vera juice, goji berries & pumpkin seeds but my MIL consulted with a naturapath and bought us a whole heap if different pills and powders so I'm not 100% sure what he's on now. i know that the zinc and folic acid are in these potions so he hasn't subtracted them he's just added more to his list and mine! Gotta love the inlaws.
hi everyone murraycod-best wishes for tuesday,is dh able to go with you?..t-hopes-welcome to the new thread,a fs told me most sperm samples show that 90/95 % of sperm are in his words crap,but still have a chance because you only need one...alice- lots of hugs,interesting about antibiotics,as i have blocked tubes,maybe i should have asked for them last transfer...possums-welcome to the the thread,hope you don't have too wait to much longer to see those 2 lines again...craftymummy-thinking about how your app going..sunbeam-congratulations,showing that early on a hpt has to be a good sign i think...saffy-step by step....happybaby-hope af stays away...mildez-hugs...
MatthewsMum - is the transfer today?? Was it Thursday? Yes, antibiotics REALLY good - the TCM practitioner I'm seeing thinks it is the reason I fell pg finally the last time - not the DHEA at all! Apparently some SIVF docs have made it part of their protocol FOR OVER A DECADE - for women with blocked tubes so a bit frustrating to be learning about it now but good that we have. MurryCod was on Doxic antibiotic from Day 2- Day 12 of her cycle so fingers crossed for you this time. Let us know how you went (unless I have the day wrong! in which case, good luck!!) x
alice-transfer is on saturday,thanks for the info & well wishes.Did you get your phone call?
Yes, but I lied and said I was on my way out and could I call Monday. I'm such a grown-up...not!! :hide:
good one alice!! don't feel bad, i would do the same then take phones off hooks/ switch off mobiles etc hehe