Questions regarding your treatment

**collo04** · January 21st, 2008, 07:24 PM

Thanks for looking into that for me I will be asking when I have my scan on friday when I need to take the clexane.

BW My level of NK cells was 1 percent off the high mark. He wants to use clexane first and see how it goes before he puts me on any steroid treatment.

Well as for me I havent had any side effects from my first lot of pills if anything I feel really good and happy I guess I will have to wait and see until I start taking the progesterone pessaries..

**collo04** · February 5th, 2008, 10:18 AM

I have another question Iam getting ready for an egg pick up since my embies didnt make it so my doc said to stay on the eostrogen and pesseries for another week as well as taking synarel. I am having heaps of trouble sleeping tossing and thrashing about and last night I woke up with really sweaty palms, not just moist but it was like I had ran my hands under a tap???? Is this a side effect of all of these meds combined or is my body going haywire??????

jasmar · February 9th, 2008, 09:26 PM

Hi everyone

, I'm new to bellybelly and IVF and would love to join in on the threads and get some much need advice and support from the so many courageous and inspirational women out there. My DH and I have unexplained infertility

We had our first stim cycle in Nov but I had OHSS and was unable to do fresh transfer. We have since just done natural FET with a

.

Anyway my question is we are considering changing IVF clinics and want to know if we can take our 4 remaining embies with us together with all our personal information? There is nothing particularly wrong with our current clinic but the new one offers a more wholistic approach, eg lifestyle, diet, natural therapies. Is this a difficult thing to do, ie. change clinics and will we have to start from scratch ie. screening bloods etc.

Thanks for any info you can provide.

**butterfly_warrior** · February 10th, 2008, 05:41 AM

Jasmar, I'm guessing that each clinic will work differently. I know it's possible to transfer embryos to a different clinic, and I also know that it's possible to request a copy of your results be transferred over as well. We've requested a copy of our test results from our clinic and had them in under a week. I've not done the transferring of embryos thing, but I do know that it's possible. The new clinic that you're going to go to should be able to tell you what you need to do in order to get things done. You may then need to contact your old clinic to be able to fill out the relevant paperwork.

BW

**jules1** · February 10th, 2008, 06:38 AM

Hi Salt
OI + IUI definitely better as they are putting the sperm right next to the egg. Not sure on statistics but the ivf sites have them. You would expect it to be foolproof as the sperm don't have to swim anywhere just crash straight into that egg right beside them, but I do know it isn't as successful as IVF. Best of luck if you are giving it a go.

**Janie71** · February 15th, 2008, 08:48 AM

Hi all, I am new to this site and have a question about Puregon. I am currently going through ovulation induction due to polycystic ovary syndrome. Currently on our Fifth try. The first try I took 50units and ended up producing 4 eggs, which is obviously not good for a natural cycle. Next 2 cycles I was on 33 and 1/3 units and both times produced beautiful single eggs, but did not full pregnant. The fourth cycle all of a sudden the 33 and 1/3 did not stimuate my ovaries enough and I had to go up to the next dosage which I believe is about 44 units. Again this stimuated one egg but did not result in pregnancy. This cycle I have been on the 44 units and even with the Dr extending the period of time on this dose, it has not stimuated my follies enough. So now I am going to be back on 50 units for 3 days and then have another scan to check what is going on.

My rather long winded question is, is this normal??? Can your body become almost a little resistant to the puregon? It just seems that in the beginning I was almost hyper sensitive to it and now, it is getting harder and harder for it to work.

**butterfly_warrior** · February 15th, 2008, 10:11 AM

Unfortunately, PCOS makes your response to ovarian stimulation variable and unpredictable. I don't think it's a matter of becoming resistant to the puregon, just polycystic ovaries being their usual bloody-minded, unpredictable selves. In my first IVF cycle I was on 150IU - no response at all. An increase to 300IU managed to make me hyperstimulate. The second cycle, we started with the higher dose straight away, but dropped it down much faster. I still hyperstimulated, and did so even worse than the first time despite lower doses being used.

BW

**Janie71** · February 15th, 2008, 10:29 AM

Thanks BW appreciate the feedback. As I am sure everyone in these forum's understands, sometimes I feel like my husband and I are the only one's going through this, and that the way my body reacts to the drugs is totally abnormal.

I'm really pleased that I have found somewhere where there are other people who understand. I wish you all the very best with your quest to have a baby.

**collo04** · February 16th, 2008, 09:33 AM

I transferred 3 embbies from one clinic to a new one but each clinic grade them differently and mine were considerd by my new clinic as very poor and should not have been frozen. So I get to strat fresh with this new clinic Goodluck but it is possible.

**Visitor9** · February 16th, 2008, 10:17 AM

Jasmar,
I contimplated changing clinics but it was one of those catch 22 situations we would of been $700 out of pocket top transfer embies as it is unclaimable item. Hate to think how much it might be now

. I was going to be less out of pocket to use them with FETS as the threshold was reached. We were told it would be better to use them and then change to another clinic for a fresh stim when the time arised..but it all depends on how many are in storage and how you feel about your current clinic. I found I went in waves of love hate
Bec
ETA Yep all the bloods are done again not so much laps and hyters and semen ...we were told we had to do counseling again

We had done 15 cycles and I felt that wasnt right. Also you may find there may be an admin fee as you are a new patient..then you have to build that repour with the doctors and nurses LOL we chose to play the numbers game and thankfully it came up with in 2 cycles

jasmar · February 18th, 2008, 03:35 PM

Thanks collo04, butterfly warrior and Bec for the advice, we really appreciate it.

I hadn't thought about the costs involved in transferring the embies. I suppose what we are worried about is losing all the embryo's without changing our approach. We are really keen to try the colorado protocol but our clinic doesn't seem to offer this. I'm also concerned about using Clomid frequently which has been linked to thyroid cancer fs puts me on this prior to transfer. We are not sure our clinic is up to date on latest technology and advances. Will probably just do another FET then start fresh stim cycle with new clinic if it comes to that.
I hope things are going well for you all in your efforts in TTC.
Hugs, Maree

**Pookiegirlba** · May 10th, 2008, 10:13 PM

Hi all,

I had my first natural FET transferred this morning. However, my FS told me that only 60% of cells survived the thaw, but that as long as more than 50% of cells survive, they go ahead with the transfer. He also said that the average amount of cells that survive after thawing is 70-80%, so I'm a little bit worried that it's going to be a negative with this transfer. My FS was very reassuring and told me that it is common for pregnancies to occur, even with the loss of more cells than usual, but I'm still worried.

Does anyone have any information about success rates based on the above?? I can't seem to put it out of my mind.

Thanks in advance,
Vicki

**belle333** · May 11th, 2008, 06:32 PM

Hey Vicki

I'm not sure but I think it is quite common for embies to lose cells. But it does seem that the accepted level varies from clinic to clinic. SIVF have a min. of 70%. (They seem to be quite strict on all fronts).

I spoke with the Scientist when I had my transfer on 2nd May and he said that when an embie loses cells that you don't end up with eg. 70% of a baby (if successfull), the embie just pushes those cells out (when hatching) and continues to grow.

Also from what he said the embie shrinks to a very small size when frozen inside the zona and whats important is that it needs to expand when thawed. This part is critical. Did they explain this part to you?

Lots and lots

for you.

**Pookiegirlba** · May 11th, 2008, 07:11 PM

Thanks for replying Belle. My FS did mention the expansion thing, but I think I was too bewildered to take it in. I think he said that the cells expanded but I honestly can't remember for sure.

I guess there's nothing for it but to wait till my BT on the 20th. I won't get my hopes up though

Vicki
x

**belle333** · May 11th, 2008, 08:58 PM

Hey

You know I thought I was going through the wait ok, have been that busy at work and studying haven't had much time to think about it really .... that was until yesterday.

I had some spotting and cramping and rang the clinic this morning ... they say all is ok but have to wait for Blood Test. Feel better today because its getting closer and only 2 sleeps to go.

Happy positive thoughts

**Pookiegirlba** · May 12th, 2008, 02:01 PM

Oh Belle - I hope it's a positive sign - I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for you!

Vicki
x

**nicjay** · July 25th, 2008, 08:48 AM

Hi there everyone,

I'm looking for any info I can find regarding the success rate of making you ovulate for FSH injections versus Clomid. Basically my story is this: I have just done 2 cycles of Clomid + IUI. The first cycle went great but no BFP, the second cycle was mental. My LH surged naturally when my E2 levels were 700 - less than half of what they were in the first cycle, and my prog was only 21 7 days post IUI despite using 2 prog pessaries a day for LP support.

We're off to the FS on Tues next week to make the case for giving FSH injections a go next. I'm keen to do them based on my mixed success with Clomid - I also had an anovulatory cycle when taking it late last year. He is not a fan of FSH injections for OI though because of the risk of multiples, he is not happy that they can cancel a cycle but that still does not stop you going home and DTD anyway and ending up pg with triplets

Basically any extra info that I can arm myself with would be greatly appreciated. I understand that there are no guarantees with anything, but if I'm more likely to ovulate on FSH injections than Clomid then I think I would rather go down that path than persist with Clomid.

TIA

**dea** · July 25th, 2008, 07:55 PM

Hey Briggsy?s girl,

Thanks for that I appreciate the support. I guess I just have to cross fingers for Monday that I do actually have all the necessary working bits! As luck would have it I have also come down with a cold! So I am hoping they will go ahead since no one wants to loose a month.