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Thread: TTC & Taking Clomid &/or Metformin ~ November 2006 # 2

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    Ahhh Willow - the joy of being a nurse is that we are the WORST patients We don't mind working there but we are shocking when the patient is us. We also read too much and become very informed patients (which has positives and negatives) I also have a strong dislike of needles - I'm very good at giving them but I am not fond of having them. Should make for a fun experience when the OB says we can start the clexane and aspirin again

    I laughed when I read Deb's answer in here - it was almost the same as mine on the other side!! Good to see the responses are consistent.

    Today was ok but thank you for checking


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    I am a wonderful patient!!!! (she has a smirk on her dial!).
    Willow, I must say I LOVE hospitals. That's because I don't go into them every single day anymore. Like Michelle - I struggle with injections... However, I always pretend I don't - I don't want the "news" to get around that I am a pain!!! Like Michelle the thought of injecting myself daily curls my toes!

    I found it REALLY difficult when I had GDD with Eva to finger p r i c k myself four times a day - I mean REALLY difficult.
    As nurses we know all the questions to ask and unfortunately we know the answers sometimes when I think it would sometimes be better not to know...
    I am glad our responses were the same Michelle!

    Willow, I would surely have a baby sitter and some time alone before you prep yourself. It is pretty full on - the impulse to "go" - not the type of thing you need company for!

    Love to you all. I wonder if Debbie decided to take her clomid tonight?

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    :eek: Well, what do you know?! FF gave me coverlines again this morning! I don't believe for a second that I did actually ovulate, but in the BD drought due to me being so sick, we did actually get the day before. But with the state of DH's sperm, even if I did ovulate for real, I don't think we have a snowball's chance in a very hot place of actually conceiving here! But if it is... then two weeks until AF arrives gives me clomid during the very last week of school holidays, so I could do another natural cycle with clomid without having to take provera! As for why I don't believe it - only happens when I am on the research detector, the advanced detector still gives me the orginal ovulate day back on day 13/14.

    BW

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    Willow - so glad you forgive my sense of humour. And you are sooo right. I think between the lot of us we have already cried an ocean. Will be thinking of you (I think you know what I mean?). And don't forget to let us know how you went on Tuesday.

    Deb - only took the tablet this morning. I decided it was really still only day 2 and at the worst, day 3. The blood (up until before bed Wednesday night) was really only very light, not enough to go through a pad for the whole day. And it wasn't there when I went to the loo and wiped (sorry if too graphic). So decided today was day 2 and took it this morning. Must say, AF is pretty heavy today but will slow down by tomorrow as it usually does. Oh, and I won't let on that you are a "cowardly custard" when it comes to needles!!! Your secret is safe with me.


    Now guys, I want all of you to promise me that you will have a safe and happy weekend. Think happy thoughts (Willow it may be hard but concentrate hard when you are in the "little room"). Only happy thoughts. I will know if you are not!

    Love to you all,
    Debbie

    P.S. Pollyanna, how did you go? Hope to hear from you soon.

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    Hi

    Pollyanna, How are you? I hope your lap went ok and that you're not too sore.

    Angel Babies 3, Hope af is kind to you and wishing you all the best for this cycle.

    Willow, Good luck for tuesday, I'll be thinking of you. Hope the bowel prep isn't too bad.

    Hope you all have a great weekend.

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    Hi Girls,
    God i've missed you all lots. Sorry i havent been around for a few days but i've been trying to keep things out of my head. Had the surgery yesterday;everyhting went sooo well. I had to wait from noon till 3;30 before i was done. the anaesthitist had a lot of trouble finding a vein because i was so dehydrated. So they ran a drip through first. cause they couldnt find a vein he used on on the inside of my wrisy-not a walk in the park,but i'd had a premed so i didnt care to much...lol. At 4.15 i was back in recovery they said what was my pain level apparantly(i cant remember) i said a 1;they didnt believe me cause my bp was 150/90 so they gave me some morphine , 20 minutes later when i was alot more awake they said what was my pain i said a 7,so they gave me more , bp then came down to 127/72, much better. No pain. Got up , got dressed minimal blood/dye loss. Had a sangar and some panadeine forte, then spoke to doctor. He said no endo(yipee)no cysts to remove(yippee),dye studies good and clear(yep)BUT;it appeared i ahvent being ovulating at all because i have PCOS(dammit). So when i go back to see him in 4 weeks i start on medication,clomid or metformin (cant remeber which one).So thats why i'm getting af every few days cause when you dont ovulate it mucks up everything...And for today;i have too small cuts, not very bloated,tummys not sore or the nether regions. But my chest,back and hips and neck all hurt-just like i've gone a few rounds with mike tyson. So i'm taking panadeine. But i've been visiting friends and out shopping;so really i'm great. i'm going to have a lay down now,but this would be the best lap ever as far as how i feel afterwards. I really feel great!I got onto the ural as soon as i got home;so no burning wewees. And for a laugh i got my girly bits cloth pads today and they a beautiful but how funny i dont need them. There is hardly any blood loss;like nothing.....
    So Willow my love your next one will be as good as mine i hope. this was so easy comparabley and i have answers; not a clean slate..but still its information.I thank all you wonderful ladies for your ongoing support;you truly are an incredible bunch.And Willow i promise i'm praying for you to have an easy street too. Good Luck.And keep us posted. And if you need the meds TAKE THEM...Theyre great.....lol


    xx Pauline

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    POllyanna, that's really good news. Metformin is often used with PCOS along with clomid too sometimes so maybe you will be on both.
    Rest up okay!
    Butterfly - well maybe you did!!!! I am hoping for you!
    Debbie - Good o it sounds like you made a good decision. I hope that the next few days are okay and before you knowing it will be a baby dancing fest for you again!
    Mako - you have a good weekend too.

    all

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    Hi girls. I have been MIA for a while but thought I would just pop in and say hi. After getting a bit over it all I decided to just disapear for a little while. I just wanted to see that everyone was doing ok. You have all been very busy in here.

    I went for a scan today to see if there are any follies maturing but I have nothing today and what frustrates me is that I have taken a higher dose of Clomid this month than I did last month and I had a follie last month. Anyway we are going to start IUI. Start my injections today as there is absolutely no action at all in my ovaries. I am going back for another scan next Wed to see if these injections are going to work and if they are then we will do the insemination. that this will work.

    Anyway I hope you are all well.

    Love to everyone

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    Hey all

    Pollyanna...so thrilled things went well...

    Willow...take care this weekend!

    ktgirl...good luck with the IUI

    BW...here's hoping!!!

    I feel like such a dill...I've only just started clomid this week. I was having so much trouble getting the ?%** tablets out of the packet, resorting to a knife to puncture the hole...then I read the instructions!!! I was supposed to bend the packet in half first...derrr!!!

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    :hugs: ktgirl... I wondered where you were. Sorry things are not doing what we want... We are all here for you so please keep coming in...

    Monnie - glad to hear you got the clomid sorted!!!!! A bit of a blonde moment is something we can all relate to!!!!

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    Yeah...total blonde moment!

    Scary thing is...I'm not a natural!!!

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    Scarier still is that I AM!!! So, I can relate...

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    Hey Girlies.

    Pollyanna!! That is AWESOME news!! I'm so happy that you aren't feeling sore and sorry as I imagine i will be. I can't get my head around you out shopping already!!! I am so, so, so pleased for you! PCOS is usually pretty easy to address and now you have some answers heres hoping you have your bfp before too long!! A new baby for the new year!

    As for me, I can't help it, i am freaking out. I really am. Have had a few cries today because I am so nervous and scared of the pain I had last time. I really am a big sook and I don't mind saying so. I'm also upset that my mum can't be here with me because I've never been to hospital without her there to hold my hand. I'm stressed about who's going to look after my little pudding (my DD) while I'm too sore to. My IL's are fantastic and have said that they'll take care of everything but my DH is working nights next week and if they have her overnight i'll be here all sore and sorry on my own. I'm just dreading it. I'm angry that i have to go through this again. That any of us have to. It's just not fair.

    I'm also finding it increasingly difficult coping with the thought of christmas just around the corner. Some of you will understand because you have angels of your own and those that don't will still understand that empty feeling, but I keep thinking about the presents that aren't going to be under the tree. This would have been my baby's first christmas.

    I'm just having a really hard time today and just want all of this pain and frustration and fear to end. I can't do it anymore, it's too much.

    Sorry girls, I just had to get all that out and I know you will understand.

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    Willow... I wish it were school holidays and I could come and spend time with you so you aren't so alone. I think surgery the second time around is always scarier. My first surgery was to have my wisdom teeth extracted under general anaesthetic. Initially I was calm and everything was find, when they came to take me to the operating theatre I started to panic and hyperventilate. I remember the anaesthetist asking me to relax my hand so he could get a drip in... only I couldn't feel my hand any more! My second surgery was to fix a knee problem I had... different hospital, but same anaesthetist as the first time... that time I asked to be sedated and everything was fine. My last thought as I drifted off was along the lines of I hope I told them the right knee when they asked which one was sore! The point of that ramble is that just because something happened the first time, doesn't mean it will happen again, but I know it's hard to get past that fear.

    As for why I really don't believe I ovulated - I've been taking naprosyn pretty much constantly for the last two weeks. I know it suppresses ovulation, and while my rheumatologist insists that it's only a theoretical risk, getting my body to ovulate at all seems to be taking a huge amount of effort, so regardless of how theoretical the risk is and how high the doses have to be in the lab, I'm pretty sure it's going to stop me from ovulating! I would LOVE to be proved wrong, though!

    BW

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    Evening ladies!

    Monnie - I cracked up at your post re the clomid packet..we had a couple of days thinking we were doomed - they were all broken up and falling down the sink..I pray that we don't need those ones one day. Kept the cat amused though! How are you feeling 1st round?

    ktgirl, I'm sorry to hear your scan was not more promising. It really doesn't make sense when you consider your dose was increased and you had a follie on less med last time. It can really be such a vicious cycle all the trying and hoping and waiting, with or without meds. Hoping that this next step is your answer. I haven't really researched IUI pros & cons, but dare say that is the avenue we would look at should the clomid not work for us after a few cycles. It is so consuming. I hope you feel better soon.

    Willow - I can relate. It will be all over soon. Best of luck.

    We have finished our first round of tabbies yesterday. Heaven only knows how I have responded. Much to my relief (and DH) the side effects were minimal. My 1st day I was extremely dizzy. My own fault though, I hadn't eaten, so that was sorted once I scoffed 4 slices of toast. Other than that, I felt a tad emotional a couple of times but nothing worse than mild PMS. All in all I was pleasantly surprised. Such a small dose (25mg) it's any wonder I didn't feel decent side effects! I am not feeling confident that this will be a successful first round. Not like me really. Anyway, I'll try not worry in the meantime. Scan is 10am Monday. Since this is my first scan for follies, just wondering, do they jab you to ovulate or send you away assuming you will then take blood to verify after? I dare say this probably varies with Dr.

    A Christmas pregnancy would be lovely! I promise I won't ask for anything else!!

    Good luck everyone - enjoy your weekend!
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    Smudge, I do believe that would be all any of us would want for Christmas! Sadly, I don't think it's going to happen in this house, but I do hope that there's a few Christmas babies to come in this thread! I don't think they make a habit of giving trigger shots at follicle scans, but as you said, it could all very much depend on the individual doctor.

    I'm starting to feel really frustrated about the whole choosing a new specialist thing... I've had such a bad experience with my first that I want to make sure I get a good one this time. I've pretty much narrowed it down to two, from two different clinics. The fact that my GP wants me to go with one of them is a particularly big thing, but if we get to the IVF stage, it's going to be cheaper at the other clinic, and the doctor at the other (cheaper) clinic seems to have a special interest in PCOS, but I keep coming back to the fact that my GP is recommending someone, and the rheumy he recommended to me is absolutely fantastic, so hopefully the FS is too? The things you worry about when it's late, you're tired, and you've eaten far too much pizza when you shouldn't be eating it at all!

    BW

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    HEy Willow,
    Be brave girl. You'll be fine. just like you i was panicking too. i was so fretful before anaesthetic but they gave me a tablet to help me chill out. Not drowsy;but not fretting.Out of all 3 laps this has been by far the best. I've had a day sleep 5 hours. Then a shower. I'm very bloated and so full of wind.I keep apologising to everyone for being so noisy-its embarrasing but everyone is laughing at my expense. Not much of an appetite;but really thirsty. Still taking panadeine, but i feel really high spirited. I really believe it'll be the same with you. Every single member of staff at the hospital were beautiful,so attentive and caring. just tell them how you are feeling. that you are scared. I told the nusre in the operating room i was really frightened and she let me hold her hand and she caressed my head till i fell asleep. Before i went in they had just performed a caesar on a lady and parked the baby right next to me until its daddy came out. She was so beautiful;it reinforced the other reason that i'm going through all this. Willow i'm so sorry to hear that you lost a baby it must be really awful to feel so hurt and empty. I hope that your pain isnt too much to bare. i know that you don't have your mum with you right now,but i hope you have lots of dear eople around to give you hugs and kisses. Try and have a great weekend and do whatever it takes to get your mind off things.

    xx Pauline

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    Well.......I think AF might be ready to visit. Sigh. Despite my earlier post saying that I was feeling quite hopeful, I had bright red spotting today and I am CD 25. I had a temp rise this morning though which made me even more hopeful, but then went to the loo and saw the spotting. Grrrrr.

    All I can do is wait and see what happens, but it is not looking good.

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