thread: Its about time

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    Its about time

    Cost of paid paternity leave investigated

    Its about time this happened!!

    What annoys me is that MSN are running a poll on it and presently:

    21514 People say yes to being offered paid parental leave
    and still.....

    16450 say no!

    I would love to see what everyone's reasoning for this is though.

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    My hubby & I work for the same (very large) company.

    If my career works out the way it should, then for the next bub ideally I'd be going back to work after the 6 weeks and he'd stay at home for the year. But our company doesn't allow that. Even if I was only paid for the sick leave, he isn't entitled to the 24 weeks half-pay unless I'm incapacitated. It sux as it currently is.

    To be honest, re the funding of it all, if we were taxed *specifically* for maternity leave (similar to HECS repayments) then that'd be grand. Imagine, electing to pay extra tax from age 16 (or whatever) and that would be returned to you as maternity / paternity pay OR as a lump sum! That'd rock!

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    I have tried nutting out different ways for employers to fund paid maternity and it is hard to do. It means more administration and more expense, not so bad for large business, but not great for small business, who I feel is overburdened as it is. So something that is federally funded seems fairer and makes more sense. Will quite interested to see how they work it out.

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    In Canada we have up to 60% paid leave for 1 year. The Government pays out of the same fund as unemployment benefits. The mom has 12 weeks of maternity leave and the rest is parenting leave and either mom or dad can take that so long as the weeks add up to a total of 1 year. It is wonderful. Giving kids and families time to bond and a good start I am sure it saves money in the long run.

    Although I don't qualify this time as I haven't worked since #2 was born.

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    If the goal is to ensure that women return to the workforce I don't think any system will work properly unless it allows you to be paid your current wage - I have read the bill (being a bit of a nerd) that was previously put forward and 'revamped' at the end of last year and it proposes to pay women minimum wage. As I am our primary income earner that would be completely useless to us.

    I do agree however that if the employer is required to pay the leave they will simply stop hiring women of child bearing ages.

    What I find curious is the strong public resistance to govt funded mat leave... given that all state and federal empoyees are currently entitled to 12 weeks leave at full pay - tax payers are already funding it - why not make it fair for those of us that don't work for the government... anyway, just my thoughts....

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    Australia is one of the few nations that don't provide an across the board paid maternity leave scheme - I know one of the others is the US.

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    I totally agree and when I talk to my other mat leave friends in the past, I am often embarrassed cos I have been lucky enough to be paid 12 weeks full pay (or 24 weeks half pay) for both my babies, I am employed by the Australian Public Service.

    I have also been able to return to work flexibly, work part-time hours to suit our family - and sometimes people wonder why I stay there. My organisation has been so good to me and I work hard at doing the best I can during my 29 hours per week at the moment.

    I can't imagine how we would have coped without the 12 weeks paid, I am sure we would of course, but it yes definitely made it easier - I stayed home with both my bubs until 10 months - then went back to work 2-3 days per week and gradually increased with what I was comfortable with Lucky, I know

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    Other countries have paid maternity/paternity leave. Other countries have small businesses. Other countries are not filled with a mass of unemployed women of childbearing age. Go figure.

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    paid maternity/paternity leave

    paternity leave has same entitlement as maternity leave (unless differently specified by internal agreement). see govmt website re paternity leave.
    in most of European country maternity leave is paid at least for 12 weeks (usually 100% salary, then less up to 1 yr of the baby).
    in Italy the gvmt does NOT allow you to work past the 7th month of pregnancy, and if the job is hard or the pregnancy at risk, the doc has to issue a certificate for which the pregnant woman will stay at home as "risky pregnancy", fully paid by the gvmt!!!
    After the delivery, (in Italy) you are not supposed to go to work. the maternity leave is paid by the government (guess what, less trouble to find a spot in childcare!). By law you are entitled to stay with your baba up to his/her 1st birthday (paid of course, even though not 100% of your wages)...
    so my mum is wondering why I'm having my babies here, when back at home I'd have her support and the gvmt money to enjoy my baba... simple as it is, my hubby is here and my life is here now...
    I have to admit thought that it was hard to work up to the due date and start again the week after she was born (luckily working from home and just for few hrs a week but still difficult). With the next one all different... I will have to have a C delivery, so I will need heaps of rest... hope the bill pass before I will be due...
    By the way, IT IS NOT THE EMPLOYER WHO WILL HAVE TO PAY THE LEAVE. that is clear and sure.I agree, they should have a national maternity/paternity leave, since it is not fair that public sector employees enjoy it, while the private sector has to be lucky to keep the job (after my baba was born, my ex boss didn't even congratulate me, no nice card or flowers, just "are you ready with the paperwork, we have due dates"... nice eh?)
    love to all

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