Alan - my first GYN suggested that it was an infection that could have been related to an untreated bout of thrush. This was the part I couldn't understand because I have never had much trouble with thursh (maybe once or twice in my life). I have Kenacomb and will start using it again until my appointment on the 5th. Can I use Kenacomb and the Zinc cream or is it best to use one or the other?
Sorry for all the questions but I really appreciate your help - I am seriously at my wits end with this.
Don't worry about asking me questions, that is what I am here for.
If you wish to use the 2 creams at the same time I suggest that you first apply the Kenacomb first. However I think it would be a littel better if you first applied the Kenacomb and waited a couple of hours befor using the zinc and castor oil cream
Salt water bath followed by Kenacomb and then before bed I'll apply the Zinc. Will I still be ok to use the DiFlucan once a week as well?? Would you recommend that?
This is just until I can get to my appointment on the 5th and work out a plan of action with my Doctor. At least I will be able to see if the combination of the creams and the DiFlucan has made any difference by then.
Diflucan is used for fungal infections and could well be useful. You can use it with the other creams but again try to keep the application of each cream apart by a couple of hours
This is in relation to your anticipation of pain... I had vaginismus and FSD (female sexual dysfunction - impotence for women, you don't get engorged or wet) for most of my teens and my early 20's because of the abuse i'd suffered as a child - ironically i never sought medical help because i thought sex was supposed to be mildly-moderately painful for women every time they did it...
Anyway, i was thinking, if you are there all tense and worried about pain, some of the pain you have could be that of vaginismus - the muscles around the opening tighten up hard and NOTHING is going in there without it hurting. It felt like the penis was made of sandpaper to me. People would say "use lube" but lube only helps if you can release your pelvic floor! With lube it would sometimes go in (mods if i'm too graphic then remove this and i'll PM instead) but within a few movements would feel like broken glass at the entrance because the muscles were still fighting to close my pelvic floor.
So eventually i realised it was muscular and the combination of some relaxation exercises and being with someone who i really trust and love (not a problem for you ) really helped. I banned lube, and if i cannot get relaxed and aroused myself we do not have sex (i almost always can nowadays). The problem is that physical issues can LEAD to psychological ones because nothing wears you down like pain.
I don't know if this is any help to you, but it's worth discussing with the gyn as they might well be able to help if you have vestibulitis caused by vaginismus. I think i read once that you can tell the difference because with vestibulitis the skin down there hurts whenever you touch it, and if the problem is vaginismus then it's inserting things which causes the pain, and many women can use tampons, insert a finger themselves etc. without issue but when it comes to sexual contact they have problems and pain (though some women with vaginismus can NEVER insert anything- it depends if it's sex causing the anxiety and spasming or just any and all general genital contact).
amy im sooo glad you brought this up....im in exactly the same positon as you...its been happening for the last year and its so painful...i asked my gynae why and he said its because my womb and everything is matted together and it gets sort of jarred when dtd. im going in the 9th of jan for a dnc, camera and for a iud to be put in to help with the bleeding and to try and prolong the amount of time before they have to do a hystorectomy...just so you are all aware every gynae i have seen has told me il need a hystorectomy because theres to much pain and basically my womb is stuck to my bowel because of adhesions and they cant do anything to release them..its to risky. iv seen 5 gynaes and 12 surgeons. last night when dtd i was in agony the only way to describe the pain is that iv got a hot knife down there and it lasts for hours. sorry got no answers i just wanted you to know you are not alone .. xxxx
Bec - You described DTD perfectly - he can get it in with enough lube (although even that creates horrific pain) but within a few movements it's like sandpaper. From what you have described it sounds like I also have vaginismus but it is definitely vestibulitis - I cannot wear tampons and when I was diagnosed my GYN pressed on two points during an examination and I nearly fell off the bed. However, now that I expect pain I am 100% sure that my muscles not being able to relax are playing a major part.
We try everything to relax - STACKS of foreplay, warm baths, lube, massages, change of positions etc. Sometimes he can get it in after all that but the majority of the time he just cannot get it in at all. It is literally impossible without an enormous amount of pain. It feels like I am being ripped apart. Even today I am still sore from yesterday's measly attempt.
Thanks so much for your help hun - I will bring that up with my GYN in Jan that Vaginismus could be playing a role in this too.
Rach - Big hugs babe . I can't even begin to imagine what you're going through. It must be a scary prospect to know you have to have a hysterectomy and to be told by that many doctors. I thought my little bit of endo was scary enough so please know that I am holding your hand through all of this. The pain you described it spot on.
What I don't get is this... What did I do in this life to end up with not one but TWO different types of painful sex? It's just not fair.
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) really helped. I banned lube, and if i cannot get relaxed and aroused myself we do not have sex (i almost always can nowadays). The problem is that physical issues can LEAD to psychological ones because nothing wears you down like pain.
. I can't even begin to imagine what you're going through. It must be a scary prospect to know you have to have a hysterectomy and to be told by that many doctors. I thought my little bit of endo was scary enough so please know that I am holding your hand through all of this. The pain you described it spot on.
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