With DD1 when she was still at childcare she would just yell until her carer came to help her, think she was just 4yo then. Her carer just used to laugh about her yelling "Ruth!! Come wipe my bottom!"

It was really when 4yo Kinder started (DD1 turned 5 that year), that the teachers were very adamant about not helping her. I think she used to ask, but they just told her no. She seemed to cope ok. Her main problem is if she is "sloppy", all it takes is a bit of a poo on the hand incident and she goes back to wanting us to help all the time.

With DD2, whilst initially it is great that she wipes herself, it makes it hard to know what is going on. The poor little thing is prone to constipation and wont tell us Also as she wipes herself, childcare can't tell us either if they think she is constipated, so it is normally quite bad before we work it out.