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    Hi Ladies,

    Well quick update on Ronan - he is now in SCN as of 2/3 days ago! It has taken him 10+ wks to get there but it is fantastic! He now weighs 3087 grams, 53cms long & 33cm head.. He is on 55mls of milk every 3hrs and is a happy little boy! It is hard to believe i should have been 37wk 5 days pregnant! lol



    He has been on Low Flow for the past 5 days, so he finally threw the CPAP out the window and his PDA closed hence why he is FINALLY smooth sailing.. We don't know when we will be home but we are guessing around another 3 weeks (13 weeks in total) so it's been a lonnnnnnnng road.. I am finishing work next Friday so i can't wait!

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    Jess, sorry you had an awful day, I remember those feelings, massive highs thinking you would get your baby back with you, then them being dashed by something that is seemingly so trivial for us, but life threatening for them. Just try to remember that they are doing what they think is right for your little man. I know its hard, but it won't be much longer.

    Racoon, just had a look at your site, Ronan is such a little fighter! Seeing him on CPAP reminded me of all that we went through with Coby. Awful. That's great that he's moved to SCN and will only be there for a little while before you have him back with you.

    Girls, does anyone have a bub that had reflux or similar? Coby had an immature valve between stomache and oesophagus and continually vomitted for about 7-8 months, now he has this REALLY strong gag reflex and he vomits with everything. I just get so sick of it, I know I shouldn't feel this way, but it annoys me so much and makes me so angry when he vomits, and I just can't feel sympathetic to him (unless of course he really is sick from something like a cold or whatever). I feel like the worlds worst mother, I can't believe that something like this really gets me down, but it does. Every day for the past almost 12 months, I've been cleaning up vomit, have been vomitted on etc and its driving me batty. Does anyone else deal with this sort of thing or similar? How do you cope?

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    Rac - I'm so happy that things are travelling well with Ronan, it has been such a long haul for you. Kyla was in for 10.5 weeks and I was going batty by the end - desperate to get her home with me. You are amazing in the way you are coping sweetie!
    But it looks like you're nearing the end of that loooong road!!
    Hooray for Ronan! What a strong little boy.
    It must be such a relief that the PDA has closed. And his weight is EXCELLENT!! Kyla reached about that around her due date - so Ronan's obviously enjoying his food! Good one!
    Congrats on the change to SCN. And yay about finishing work.

    Bel - Kyla had bad reflux also and I totally understand how you feel. Sometimes it felt like "why bother feeding her" cos it just came right back up - puddles on the floor, wet clothes, lots of washing, always wearing bibs and being covered in chuck continually. She got alot better around 3 months corrected, but still chucks if she pushes or has pressure on her tummy.
    It did really annoy me but as I said - she's much better now. Sorry Bel, but I don't have much advise - except that I saw on Mother's Direct a feeding smock which are like little raincoat smocks to wear during feeding to keep clothes clean.
    Sorry I can;t be more helpful except to say that I do understand and know that it is really frustrating and that you're not a bad mum to feel frustrated too.
    Have you had a look in the reflux thread - you may also get some helpful suggestions there.

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    Racs- Oh what a huge milestone moving into SCN! You know once you make it in their you wont have too much longer before Ronan can be @ home safe and sound with mummy & daddy!

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    Wow Racs, good going Ronan! Hopefully only another few weeks and he'll be home! He will seem so much bigger now than when he was born!

    Sorry, no joy about the vomitting either, we didn't have that, but I'll try and do some research...

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    Yay Racs!
    So glad to hear that Ronan is doing well in the SCN, you won't know yourself now!

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    How's everyone going?
    ha a tough couple of nights with Nixon. Last night was ok woke every 4hrs for a feed but the 2 nights prior he was a screamer! Tuesday was pretty much a right off for me all i did was try to catch up on sleep and battled a constant headache. Think he must have been having a growth spurt again.
    Nixon chucks alot, how do u know if baby has reflux or silent reflux? he always waits until the second after i take his bib off or right when he mouth is positioned to run straight down my top! sometimes he throw straight after but quiet often is a while after being fed
    well he is 6 weeks old now, Actually Nixon was due today!!

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    Happy due date birthday Nixon!
    Nickers, it's really common for prem babies to chuck alot!
    Reflux is the term used for babes with an immature sphincter at the end of the oesophagus and begunning of the stomach. Some of the acid from the stomach rises up through this sphincter and alot of the time brings milk with it. Sometimes it happens just after a feed and other times, it's hours after and smells quiter curdled (sorry if tmi)
    Some babies have no pain with it, others scream.
    Mine are screamers.
    There are lots of things you can do to try and help it.
    feed sitting more upright (I've had four chuckers and this,IMO is a myth)
    smaller feeds more ofter (yuck)
    use a thickener - karicare have one and you can mix it into a paste and give before BF or you can buy a formula that is already thickened.(This is what I did with Noah and it worked but has made no difference with Ivy, who I have now weaned because of poor weight gain.
    Try a chiropractor (that is what we are currently trying and it has made a huge difference in Ivy)
    Medicate - you can try Mylanta or gaviscon before feeds. If bottling, you can put the gaviscon into the formula.
    If none of that works, you can go to the doctor and get some zantac. It doesn't stop the vomiting but it stops ythe pain.
    HTH. LOL that he waits - Ivy does that too. You'll get used to carrying extras of everything for your boy and for you.
    The good thing is they eventually grow out of it (most of them) by the time they start sitting up.

    We are pretty good, although, Noah has just had the worlds biggest screaming fit and my ears are ringing. Other than that we are just plodding along.
    They are six months old now, I can't believe it! Time has gone too fast

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    hi girls, I hope everyone's ok.

    Tiff, just a quickie, how is the chiro going? Thinking of trying it for Coby, would you recommend it?

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    Thanks for that info Tiff. hehe Nixon is allowed to be here now!!
    It would be a bit hard trying to prop baby up when breast feeding! We give him a bottle each night cause he has penta-vite and some other liquid med with iron in it and try and sit him up but he still chucks.
    Tonight he did the biggest chuck ive seen so far. most of the time he doesnt scream before chucking so dont think it hurts him too much.
    We see the Paed on the 16th so i will talk to him about it then, my sister also suggested shorter more freq feeds but i feel like im feeding all the time as it is!
    What does a Chiropractor do to help?

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    Hi Bel,
    The chiro is great!
    I would try it. The one we are seeing for Ivy and Noah is amazing.

    The first time I took Ivy she slept four hours straight after her adjustment, then had a really good six hour sleep that night and the chucking got a whole lot better(I only had to change her clothes once).
    Last weekend she was really bad with the reflux and the screaming. She was so unsettled. I took her back on the Monday and he had a little feel and said, was it a bad weekend? I said yes and had a meltdown in his office. He touched a few points and said it had been really bad for her too and that she was out of wack because of it.
    He asked me to bring her back free of charge the next day because he was worried.
    That afternoon she slept and fed beautifully, had a great night, we went back the next day and he adjusted her a bit more and she was just lovely, like a different baby. The vomiting settled he right down. Of course it's up and down. We go Monday and Friday now and by Friday she is chucking and is unsettled.
    It would be good for Coby. We suggest it to all the ladies who have had traumatic births, for their babies. Especially if it was quick or instrumental.

    Nickers,
    The chiro assesses the baby's back and adjusts it so that the pressure is equal and nothing is pinching/ pushing things the wrong way. Chiros believe that every part of your spine represents or is connected to other parts of the body and so in adjusting the spine, it helps the problems and other symptoms that are presenting.
    Apart from that, the babies find it really relaxing.
    Ivy cried for the first couple of adjustments but now she smiles and coos. She also lets him know if something isn't right.

    PS Noah did this almighty chuck when he was about 14 weeks old (that's when I decided to try the thickener) It shot accross the room and came out of his nose at the same time! Poor baby. I think we were both traumatised by that.
    Immy (my first) spewed from the head of the bed up and over the end when she was five weeks and Ivy has done a few like that too!!! I just expect it with Ivy now. I've given up with the little cloth nappies and go straight for the bath sheets!!!!! LOL
    and I hear you on the smaller feeds more often, that's what I was doing with Ivy and she was just always on the breast. You will find a way that works best for you, hang in there, I think most of us with prems wear odour de babyspew!

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    Tiff, I had a particularly bad day with Coby vomitting a while ago, and when my DH came home, I said to him "smell my new perfume" and he smelt my neck, screwed up his nose and said "what is it?" I replied "Eu De Vomi`"

    tee he he!!

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    Nickers - There is a specialist peadiatric chiropractor in Boronia - I can give you the details if you want them.
    As Tiff said - the reason a chiro is supposed to help is that all the nerves that supply the body come from the spine, so if the spine is slightly out it effects the nerve supply to certain area's of the body. Different nerves supply the stomach etc which is probably why it assists with reflux.

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    Hey Carrie!
    How are you going?
    How is your gorgeous girl?

    I put some of Ivy and Noahs prem pics up. It's in the hyperlink in my signature.
    It was kind of fun looking through them and seeing how much they have grown!

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    Hey Tiff -
    I had a look through all of the photo's - they are just so gorgeous!! I especially love the nuddie one of them together in black and white.
    Noah looks like a real character - and I must say that I'm very partial to Ivy (what a sweetie she is). I just want to cuddle them both!

    We're all sick here atm but hopefully we'll all be back to ourselves quickly.

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    the pics are great Tiff esp the black & white ones! r they professional ones?
    i was going to buy some stuff for reflux @ chemist today but unsure if i should without consulting dr first? it cant b too bad if u can buy it over counter but just didnt know if he is too young?
    i'll wait & c bout a chiropractor till we've seen the paed on the 16th.
    some feeds he settles well after and others by the time he settles he is ready to wake for another feed!

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    Well, Patrick is now 10 days old and we are finally getting somewhere with him coming home!
    We got into the hospital early this morning as I wanted to see the Paed. But when we got there, he was no where in sight, however
    my favourite nurse was there! We all got talking about what happened yesterday and because the head nurse hadn't written anything up, that's where our plan all got destroyed. We talked for about 30 mins about what we could do and then we came up with a plan. I would do his two feeds during the day, 11.30am and 3.30pm and then they would bottle feed him for his 7.30 pm feed. Tomorrow I would do the same with the premise of me starting "parenting" tomorrow night. He gets weighed at midnight Monday, so I would be there for that to see if being fully breastfed worked. So hopefully,either Monday or Tuesday, he could be home.There is a down side in this plan though! I have to buy this particular nurse flowers and dark chocolate as a reward! lol.
    He has also put on 30g so he is now 2315g.

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    Nic - Kyla had reflux and chucked lots and fair amounts, but it never really upset her. Because of this and because she continued putting on about 120g per week the pead advised not to put her on anything. She was on gaviscon in the hospital but they weaned her off before coming home. It settled a lot at 3 months, she still chucks but only small amounts and it never worries her.

    Jess- that's great news! by "parenting" do you mean rooming in?

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