Thanks muminalice, ds is currently just over 13kg so which seat would he sit in and where would the newborn go? Im trying to get my head around the p&t as it may need to be an option for us as we dont have alot of boot space. I know that our strider 3 takes up most of our boot so i am assuming the strider plus will be the same and we wont have the backseat space that we have now to put thing in. Decisions decisions.....